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Old 05-28-22, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by polymorphself View Post
I ended up finding a 2022 2P Hubba Hubba NIB of half off locally. 3lb 4oz and 20 sq ft for $200.

Thanks for the opinions and may the convo continue
Nice find!
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yeah it is very good.
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Originally Posted by polymorphself View Post
I ended up finding a 2022 2P Hubba Hubba NIB of half off locally. 3lb 4oz and 20 sq ft for $200.

Thanks for the opinions and may the convo continue
I have met a few cyclists with that tent, they were happy with it.
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Originally Posted by polymorphself View Post
I ended up finding a 2022 2P Hubba Hubba NIB of half off locally. 3lb 4oz and 20 sq ft for $200.

Thanks for the opinions and may the convo continue
I had to look the square footage up since I thought it sounded low. My Passage 1 is 20 sq ft. The Hubba Bubba is 29 sq ft.
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Originally Posted by phughes View Post
I had to look the square footage up since I thought it sounded low. My Passage 1 is 20 sq ft. The Hubba Bubba is 29 sq ft.
Whoops, typo on my part. 29 indeed.
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Coons?
Coons, marmots, mice, et al.
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Not hurt, just commented that you did exactly what you said others were doing, despite the fact it wasn't true.
I'm well aware, thank you.

A 4 pound nylon tent including poles and stakes is not that much on a bicycle. Mine weighs less, but if someone what's to carry something that weighs 4 or 5 pounds, who cares.
No body cares.

Not everyone wants to pay $700 for a tent that doesn't come with poles or stakes just to save 2 pounds.
Obviously.
If you do, great. You gave a nice option for those interested.
Thank you.

I just called you out for mocking people who carry tents heavier than yours. It was your mocking tone that was the issue.
I wasn't mocking others tent choices. I was mocking your reading into my words your personal emotional baggage.

Here is what that the Ataplex tent weighs, 15.4 ounces, but... it costs $675, and here is the details on the weight and what comes with:Weight:

The total weight displayed near the 'add to cart' button includes guy lines, sewn in linelocs, taped seams, and a stuff sack. A piece of repair tape is included with the tent. Your choice of canopy material will change the total weight.

*6x Stakes are required but are not included. We have a variety of Ultralight Stakes to choose from.
As if I don't know the details of what I already own & use.

The tent also does not come with poles, you use a trekking pole or buy their tent poles, so that is an extra cost, and extra weight. Still lightweight, but at what cost?
The cost is whatever you want it to be. I use a single carbon fiber staff that is also dual purpose as a very useful walking stick. It is ideal for steep & uneven terrain. A pole-jack & ski-pole work good too. As does a friendly stick by the trail side. Furthermore I have a variety of stakes of various merits for various ground. Sometimes, I bring more than I need & don't even use them all as rocks, sticks, logs, etc prove to be more suitable securement points in a given site. Suluk has the lightest stakes, albeit the most finicky, but there many others. I have a few from just about everybody. Mixing & matching as I see fit. Last I checked, stakes or poles are not part of the tent, but only one component of a shelter system. It only makes sense to not include the unnecessary variables in the single item weight. System weight is up to the individual hiker. Should they include the weight of the log the guy line was attached to, too? Silliness.

Carrying on my back, I get it. Carrying on my bike, not so much. If I want something that lightweight, I will use my Warbonnet Blackbird hammock. It's comfortable, easy to set up, and I am always dry in heavy rain, and so is my bike and gear under the tarp and hammock.
Good for you.

You have over $700 in the setup to achieve the weight I have with my hammock setup. I can park my bike under the tarp.


How goes the bug situation? No mosquitos where you hike? No ticks? Must be nice.
I like the idea of a tarp & hammock. I really do. I just can't bring myself to forgo the bug refuge a fine mesh screen & the cleanliness a bathtub tarp floor provides.

You do you. There isn't a right way, only compromises based on competing priorities.
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How goes the bug situation? No mosquitos where you hike? No ticks? Must be nice.
I like the idea of a tarp & hammock. I really do. I just can't bring myself to forgo the bug refuge a fine mesh screen & the cleanliness a bathtub tarp floor provides.

You do you. There isn't a right way, only compromises based on competing priorities.
The Warbonnet Blackbird has netting like a tent. You get in and zip up like you do in a tent, it is fully enclosed. Nice setup for someone interested in a hammock, but a hammock isn't for everyone, and they aren't always the lightest setup, despite what some zealots might say. It is a lightweight setup though.
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The Hammock without the tarp so you can see it is fully enclosed like a tent.


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I really liked the looks of the Big Agnes Copper Spur Bikepack tent but wanted a rectangular floor so I went with the Nemo Dagger. Great tent although pole segments are a bit longer than BA’s. I see that BA now offers the Wyoming Trail, which, at a glance, appears to check all the boxes.
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Has anybody found that when touring and/or camping solo they prefer to have a two person tent despite the weight/size trade off? I'm looking to buy a new tent this week and can't think up reasons I'd need bigger than a one person, but there's always something to learn.
I have more than one tent and which one I take depends on the trip.

On the small end, I have a basic tube tent. Lightweight and keeps the rain off. Ends are open so no bug protection. I'll take this as my backup on a trip where I might mostly be finding motels but need to also be able to camp along the way.

On the other end, I've had basic two person tents, freestanding with two doors. The Hubba Hubba followed by more than one Quarterdome2. Those I like to be screened in and also on somewhat longer trips or when I expect to spend some more time in my tent.
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^^Same^^, but I use the QD2 for flatter trips because it’s a bit heavier. The BA Fly Creek will be used on hillier outings. I like the extra room and two side doors of the former.
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Originally Posted by robow View Post
Is a true 2 person tent, say 31 square ft. of usable space with full rain fly and netting, and is free standing, at 4lbs really that heavy in this day and age? Can they be had for less than $250 ?
I'm currently using an REI Quarter Dome T2, which is allegedly a 2 person tent, but that 2nd person better be a female, lol. 😁 I call it barely big enough for myself, sleeping kitty-corner. But it's just about right for me, and it was free, on craigslist. 😎 Someone had the pole assembly put together wrong, and I had to figure it out & reassemble it.

I see there's a Plus version, for folks over 6 feet tall, that I'd like to try. Also, there's a newer version out now, after the original was unavailable to buy, for quite awhile. I haven't looked at it very well yet. 🤔
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Originally Posted by Pratt View Post
Coons, marmots, mice, et al.
I never realized what a nuisance marmots were, until I got around Sacramento. 🙄 Dang things dig holes everywhere, and you have to be careful of walking, so as not to trip in one & fall. 😟

But the flip side is seeing all the deer, and other friendly critters in the area. One evening not long ago, I saw 32 deer, & lost count. 😲 Must have been a herd, passing through, I don't normally see more than 4 or 5 a day, and that's not every day, lol.
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I never realized what a nuisance marmots were, until I got around Sacramento. 🙄 Dang things dig holes everywhere, and you have to be careful of walking, so as not to trip in one & fall. 😟
You think they’re bad? Camp somewhere with a large population of Columbia ground squirrels. You could easily twist an ankle. The towne campsite at Waterton Village in AB (Canadian portion of Glacier National Park) was like a mine field.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
... The towne campsite at Waterton Village in AB (Canadian portion of Glacier National Park) was like a mine field.
You beat me to it, I was going to comment on that campground.
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A woman on my cross country group tour started out with a little bivy-like tent like those shown above. We jokingly called it “the coffin.” We were headed west to east. She replaced it with a 2P in Fargo, North Dakota.
Just curious... I really didn't see anyything that I'd call bivy like tent above. Were you referring to the Texsport Saguaro? They list it as "Single Person Personal Bivy Shelter Tent" but seriously it is listed as 44" W x 51" H x 92" D (not that small for a one person tent). That is hardly a bivy. It looks like a fairly typical cheap one person tent and at 4 pounds a pretty heavy one.

I have a hard time imagining that what looks like a typical one person tent earned the moniker "the coffin". Would I be correct in guessing that you were talking about something more like the Eureka Solitaire or other tent that is minimal solo and doesn't allow for sitting up?

Was that a group tour with van support? if so with no weight/bulk penalty the likely choice definitely shifts toward a bit more tent. I might take my Hubba Hubba myself. Then again I have used a bivy sometimes even when car camping for short trips just out of habit if I wasn't going to just sleep in the car.

BTW, I just checked and it looks like the Hubba Hubba is lighter and packs smaller than the Texsport Saguero. So the Saguero is a real dud even as a one person tent with one plus, a sale price of $46. It will get someone on a very tight budget in a tent.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
You think they’re bad? Camp somewhere with a large population of Columbia ground squirrels. You could easily twist an ankle. The towne campsite at Waterton Village in AB (Canadian portion of Glacier National Park) was like a mine field.
Wellyeahbut, marmots ARE ground squirrels, so your Columbians are probably just their cousins, putting on airs with a fancy name. Kinda like the marmots do. 🤔😁
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
You think they’re bad? Camp somewhere with a large population of Columbia ground squirrels. You could easily twist an ankle. The towne campsite at Waterton Village in AB (Canadian portion of Glacier National Park) was like a mine field.
Sounds like they need some pet foxes. With hungry kits.

Kind of like my neighborhood with the dadgum chipmunks this year.
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You beat me to it, I was going to comment on that campground.
It was really hazardous in the dark while walking to the restrooms. We set up our tent in one of the camp kitchens because of the cold and high wind. There was an RV couple in it who had made a fire in the stove. They showed us where they had to plug up a squirt hole with a segment of a tree limb. A squirrel had burrowed under the wall to get inside to look for food scraps. When they first went in they had to shoo it out.

When I backpacked in the Glacier backcountry they made holes by the food prep areas at the campsite to scavenge dropped food. Smart suckers.

The KOA in St. Mary was another walking mine field.
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Good quality, reasonably light tent at a great price! Score!

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I ended up finding a 2022 2P Hubba Hubba NIB for half off locally. 3lb 4oz and 29 sq ft for $200.

Thanks for the opinions and may the convo continue
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Crawling out of a warm bag to pee is so uncivilized
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Originally Posted by staehpj1 View Post
Just curious... I really didn't see anyything that I'd call bivy like tent above. Were you referring to the Texsport Saguaro? They list it as "Single Person Personal Bivy Shelter Tent" but seriously it is listed as 44" W x 51" H x 92" D (not that small for a one person tent). That is hardly a bivy. It looks like a fairly typical cheap one person tent and at 4 pounds a pretty heavy one.

I have a hard time imagining that what looks like a typical one person tent earned the moniker "the coffin". Would I be correct in guessing that you were talking about something more like the Eureka Solitaire or other tent that is minimal solo and doesn't allow for sitting up?

Was that a group tour with van support? if so with no weight/bulk penalty the likely choice definitely shifts toward a bit more tent. I might take my Hubba Hubba myself. Then again I have used a bivy sometimes even when car camping for short trips just out of habit if I wasn't going to just sleep in the car.

BTW, I just checked and it looks like the Hubba Hubba is lighter and packs smaller than the Texsport Saguero. So the Saguero is a real dud even as a one person tent with one plus, a sale price of $46. It will get someone on a very tight budget in a tent.
Whatever it was it was made by Marmot. That was back in '99.
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That is a great score on tent. I always go for a 2 person when using a bike - or for short overnight backpacking trips). I like to keep may panniers inside with me and I love the extra room - especially sitting up and reading.

I do use a very small one person tarp tent (notch) for most backpacking - use trekking poles for support (no tent poles). I have recently started doing some kayak camping - so finding level ground on river banks/lakes is not always as easy as you would think, but there are plenty of trees - so I am starting to research the hammock option to add to the mix. So I enjoy reading through these threads.

But I would be thrilled finding a MSR hubba hubba for that price.
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Whatever it was it was made by Marmot. That was back in '99.
Ah, probably the Starlight 1P. Pretty small. Definitely, not for everyone.
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