fooferdoggie 

this is a first for us we were on our tandem.
NSFW - language

CliffordK

I've heard of cars making a goof on separated bike lane. You'd think all the green paint would be a clue, although once they turn in, there may not be any easy exit other than going straight. That car didn't appear to be driving unreasonably fast.

In other places I prefer simple painted bike paths with the idea that it works like a road shoulder, and a vehicle can intrude on the path when there aren't any bikes around.

fooferdoggie 

there is a parking lot on the left and the dividers have gaps for cars to cross. no none of the traffic that street is fast as its closed a little ways ahead.

Troul 

i think the beeping was supposed to censor the profanity...

fooferdoggie 

thats the camera beeping. ya a few cusswords were used.

Steve B.

Obviously the OP is not in NYC. This is everyday occurrence. Taxi's regularly use bike lanes in Manhattan, it's a running joke, you get so used to it you forget to curse out the idiots.

fooferdoggie 

this is nothing I see cars on bike paths way too often mostly homeless but still.

PhilFo 

Not enough profanity.

Steve B.

Oh, Please !. Well it is Sunday, so time for a sermon.

debade

It is bad to have a car in the bike lane. It is also sad to have only one bike in the bike lane. We all should work harder to encourage more people to bike and practice active transportation.

fooferdoggie 

this is a fairly busy bike lane but it was later on Saturday so not used as much. most people are on the sidewalk along the rider that day.

flangehead

. The value of profanity has declined significantly in my lifetime, to the point it has no effect on most targets and only serves to diminish the speaker.

Chuck M 

Profanity is the linguistic crutch of the inarticulate !@$%^#*&<?/#*. (I will admit I can use some salty language too).

I've seen cars on a MUP before which I figure was due to someone unfamiliar with the area and the GPS telling them to turn right in X amount of feet. I'd give the driver of this car the benefit of the doubt as it looks like this may be the case.

merlinextraligh

Did the video get deleted I don’t see it

cb400bill

No, but the forum has recently been having some intermittent issues of YouTube videos not showing up for some forum members. IB is aware and looking into it.

Korina

If you QUOTE the original post, the link will show up and you can copy & paste it into a new tab. HTH.

Korina

I'll bet all that driver saw was a clear lane. 🙄

Roughstuff

Just as I enter the "car lane" infrequently and intermittently, I would imagine that cars would use the bike lane "infrequently and intermittently" as well. Road space is precioussss and shouldn't be wasted. I find buses much more annoying than bike lane violators, but of course buses are a protected species among the urban transit glitterati, so they must be tolerated.

livedarklions

Your anti-bus thing is just weird. Buses are there because people rely upon them for transportation, and the more people who do so, the less likely they are to add a car onto the "preciouss" road space. You seem to think there's some elitist bias towards using buses or something ("gliterati:"???). For mass transit advocates, it always seems to me to be the solution when no other mass transit is practical.

As to your point about car encroachment onto bike lanes being the same as bikes going into "car lanes", that's just ridiculous. I'm no threat to a driver when I put my bike in the "car lane", but the car sure is a threat to me when driven into the bike lane.

Roughstuff

I'm not anti-bus, I just am not going to wail endlessly about motor vehicles obstructing cyclists/traffic on the one hand, and praise a monstrosity like a bus. We forget that except for peak periods, buses are as empty as cars are, in terms of how much road space they gobble up. In addition, as I point out: they veer into the bike lane/parking lane/whatever is the politically correct name for that lane/ CONSTANTLY, and then have the audacity to suggest that we have some kind of obligation to let them do so (and re-enter traffic as well. ) I would love to see what would happen if trucks started doing the same thing just for sh*ts and giggles.

As for your other point..a car is a threat to you in the bike lane..but a BUS is not?

It does remind me though of the conversation between Meathead and Archie Bunker in one of the show Archie says, "and if you don't think a car is a weapon you ain't never driven a cab buddy!"

And I love your strident defense of the word BRIFTER.

livedarklions

Buses are nearly completely predictable, and I can easily keep out of their way until I can pass them. They stop periodically, and have doors on the right side of the vehicle. You can easily pass them on the left when they are stopped. BFD. And I've never seen a bus driver do what the op shows in the video.

I have done a lot of urban riding, and I can count on one finger the number of times I've had a close call with a bus. I've had a lot more trouble with "monstrosities" like trucks, vans and SUVs.

Where the hell are you riding where it's easier to deal with trucks than buses? I really can't take you seriously, you're a crank on this subject.

Roughstuff

In reverse order...an assortment of cities that I pass through on tours. But the most common are Providence RI, Springfield Ma and some cities on the west coast bike route. Also numerous foreign cities where busses are often "bendy" and more courteous than they are in the USA. I

It's been a LONG time since i rode in a city though...deep in the countryside for the last few years and foreseeable future.


Buses sure are predictable, i'll give ya that. You can count on them cutting into your lane at almost every street corner, and a good number of mid-block stops as well. Of course you can pass them on the left...never underestimate the ability of a bus to force you into the car lane (which of course is not sacrosanct like Bike lanes "are.") And of course pedestrians (shielded by the bus till the last second) crossing in FRONT of the bus (often in a crosswalk) are fun to deal with as well. And enjoy the nice massive blow of exhaust from the engine in the back when they struggle to cut back into traffic and accelerate to 10 MPH. Stop-and-go transit is hardest on engines and emissions, so please let's make sure we use as many buses as possible.


Oh what fun it is to ride....

Daniel4

Bike lanes are good for drivers who don't like to follow cyclists.

I don't play leap frog with buses. Instead, I follow them. Where there's a bus, drivers change lanes. So buses help mitigate drivers following me.

livedarklions

Well, old timer, guess you missed the point when they put the exhaust at the top so it doesn't blow back . How many decades has it been since you actually had to ride around buses?

Sorry, but all you're exposing here is some serious skill deficiency on your own part. Somehow, I'm able to anticipate where the bus us going to be and select my lane position accordingly--it's almost like they have fairly regularly spaced stopping points and signs posted telling you where they're going to pull in and stop.. You're not going to convince me that riding around buses is difficult. Unlike you, I do it fairly frequently, and it just isn't a real problem.

Random delivery trucks, semis with huge blind spots, and impatient car and SUV drivers are just as likely or more to cross my path, and less regular in where they are going to do so.

I don't know what your problem is with buses, but you sure don't know what you're talking about. The exhaust comment proves that.

Roughstuff

Only an environmentalist would suggest that moving an exhaust pipe 6 vertical feet would “solve” the exhaust/pollution problem. The latter improvement is largely due to switching to natural gas fuel. Of course envirowhackjobs now don’t like NatGas because it crimps their electric vehicle fantasies.

in any case though the folks on this thread HAVE made it clear to me that navigating in and around busses doesn’t present that much of a problem. One small step for mankind!