What may annoy you when commuting?
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I don't suffer *that* annoyance one bit, because I type witty BF responses at high speed while weaving on my e-bike through strollers on the local bikeway.
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This sad tragedy occurred about a mile from my pad, still waiting for details. I love the Minuteman Bikeway, but riding it on a sunny weekend day with some of the jokers out there is like play Rushing Roulette.
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I'm pretty sure none of the advice/instructions I've had yelled at me was *ever* correct
In practice, little falls into this category for me. I've spent years learning how to like things that others dislike -- makes things more fun for me. In all honesty, watching people getting their knickers in a twist over petty stuff is comic relief. Being subject to crap myself reminds me of how others react, so it's still kind of funny.
Some people are just knuckleheads. When push comes to shove, calling stupid people out on their stupidity doesn't make them smarter. Easier to figure out the easiest way through the situation and move on.
If this offends your sense of justice, keep in mind these folks run into others just like themselves all the time. As such, you are mathematically guaranteed that they'll dispense more justice/education on each other than you ever could. You won't get to see it, but you know it happens.
In practice, little falls into this category for me. I've spent years learning how to like things that others dislike -- makes things more fun for me. In all honesty, watching people getting their knickers in a twist over petty stuff is comic relief. Being subject to crap myself reminds me of how others react, so it's still kind of funny.
Some people are just knuckleheads. When push comes to shove, calling stupid people out on their stupidity doesn't make them smarter. Easier to figure out the easiest way through the situation and move on.
If this offends your sense of justice, keep in mind these folks run into others just like themselves all the time. As such, you are mathematically guaranteed that they'll dispense more justice/education on each other than you ever could. You won't get to see it, but you know it happens.
The reason that most of us enjoy our cushy lives today is because of the sacrifice of the men and women of good conscience that came before us. They did the right thing when it was hard work, and didn't just walk away and trust that it would be fixed by fate. All we have to do now is maintain it. If you see something happening that you know is wrong, then you are that instrument of fate.
I can't tell you how to live your life, but as a man of good conscience I can't just look away or turn a blind eye. I am compelled to act. Whether that's for my sake or for the sake of those around me.
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What offends me are people that see wrong and do nothing about it. There's an old saying that goes “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” That's an important philosophy for big things, but it also important for the little things as well.
People riding bikes on sidewalks, slowly, and with heightened vigilance to not inconvenience pedestrians, is way beyond where I draw the line.
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What offends me are people that see wrong and do nothing about it. There's an old saying that goes “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” That's an important philosophy for big things, but it also important for the little things as well.
The reason that most of us enjoy our cushy lives today is because of the sacrifice of the men and women of good conscience that came before us. They did the right thing when it was hard work, and didn't just walk away and trust that it would be fixed by fate. All we have to do now is maintain it. If you see something happening that you know is wrong, then you are that instrument of fate.
I can't tell you how to live your life, but as a man of good conscience I can't just look away or turn a blind eye. I am compelled to act. Whether that's for my sake or for the sake of those around me.
The reason that most of us enjoy our cushy lives today is because of the sacrifice of the men and women of good conscience that came before us. They did the right thing when it was hard work, and didn't just walk away and trust that it would be fixed by fate. All we have to do now is maintain it. If you see something happening that you know is wrong, then you are that instrument of fate.
I can't tell you how to live your life, but as a man of good conscience I can't just look away or turn a blind eye. I am compelled to act. Whether that's for my sake or for the sake of those around me.
Many people who do these things know exactly what they're doing, so rewarding them with the attention they seek is counterproductive. It's kind of like people who harass cyclists -- the whole point is the reaction, so the last thing you want to do is give them what they want. Plus it plays way better with witnesses. Makes it easier to transform consciousness in a good way and help everyone own the solution.
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What offends me are people that see wrong and do nothing about it. There's an old saying that goes “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” That's an important philosophy for big things, but it also important for the little things as well.
The reason that most of us enjoy our cushy lives today is because of the sacrifice of the men and women of good conscience that came before us. They did the right thing when it was hard work, and didn't just walk away and trust that it would be fixed by fate. All we have to do now is maintain it. If you see something happening that you know is wrong, then you are that instrument of fate.
The reason that most of us enjoy our cushy lives today is because of the sacrifice of the men and women of good conscience that came before us. They did the right thing when it was hard work, and didn't just walk away and trust that it would be fixed by fate. All we have to do now is maintain it. If you see something happening that you know is wrong, then you are that instrument of fate.
If an Uber driver does something stupid, and I yell at him about it, he is at least going to think about it, and perhaps even modify his/her behavior. If I say nothing, he will keep doing that stupid thing until something happens...
But, again, I also agree with RubeRad that there has to be a reasonable threshold.
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But not for ALL the little things. A line has to be drawn somewhere, or nobody would ever be able to get anything done for all the righting injustice all day long. And everybody will draw that line in a different place.
People riding bikes on sidewalks, slowly, and with heightened vigilance to not inconvenience pedestrians, is way beyond where I draw the line.
People riding bikes on sidewalks, slowly, and with heightened vigilance to not inconvenience pedestrians, is way beyond where I draw the line.
Yelling at nitwits is more likely to provoke nitwits into a defensive position which doesn't make them any better. Frankly, just looking at them making it clear you don't have time to waste on morons like them is more likely to be effective. Most communication is nonverbal, so verbalizing is not a requirement for taking action or being effective.
Many people who do these things know exactly what they're doing, so rewarding them with the attention they seek is counterproductive. It's kind of like people who harass cyclists -- the whole point is the reaction, so the last thing you want to do is give them what they want. Plus it plays way better with witnesses. Makes it easier to transform consciousness in a good way and help everyone own the solution.
Many people who do these things know exactly what they're doing, so rewarding them with the attention they seek is counterproductive. It's kind of like people who harass cyclists -- the whole point is the reaction, so the last thing you want to do is give them what they want. Plus it plays way better with witnesses. Makes it easier to transform consciousness in a good way and help everyone own the solution.
For example, the other day there was a young man in the gym locker room on a video call with his girl. I reminded him that the men's locker room may not the most appropriate place for a call of that type. He was the only one that heard me, and no yelling ensued. That wasn't for me, but for the other unaware gentleman in the background getting dressed.
That said, there are times and situations for subtly, but that doesn't work on everyone. Some people will only respond to more aggressive means of verbal communication. But I leave that to the other guy, since I've never been very good at it.
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Its' all about 'look what I saw and commented on being wrong!'
This ends up being a contest of sorts to see who can be more offended than the last guy.
What you end up with is everyone complaining about everybody for everything.
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I don't think anybody has posted anything that would stop him or her from cycling. These are annoyances the OP asked and we complied.
And then we go on our merry way - at least most of us.
And then we go on our merry way - at least most of us.
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This is what the world is becoming. Holier than thou people Tweeting all day about some minor infraction of what they perceive to be a standard in hopes of gaining social points from followers.
Its' all about 'look what I saw and commented on being wrong!'
This ends up being a contest of sorts to see who can be more offended than the last guy.
What you end up with is everyone complaining about everybody for everything.
Its' all about 'look what I saw and commented on being wrong!'
This ends up being a contest of sorts to see who can be more offended than the last guy.
What you end up with is everyone complaining about everybody for everything.
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when i complain loudly in public about someone complaining on social media about people complaining on social media, all while someone films it and posts it on social media
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What may annoy you when commuting?
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Commuting requires some tolerance, sure. But there are days!
E.g. a scooter idiot not looking when making a turn, crossing your path ... (sigh)
Anything you experienced while commuting that caused some frustration?
E.g. a scooter idiot not looking when making a turn, crossing your path ... (sigh)
Anything you experienced while commuting that caused some frustration?
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20 foot leashes are not uncommon at all.
The MUP I ride most is about 15 feet at it's widest point, 3 feet at its most narrow.
Granted most of the dogs are in the 15 foot wide section, but 20 foot leashes are not uncommon AT ALL
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If anybody takes the time to look through my YouTube channel (can't image why you would), you'll find all the swear words liberally applied in other videos. Bike-commuting was a great way to perfect the best utilization of profane words.
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Anytime you ride in the street and do not get killed, it is a plus. I do not recommend it. If you can't commute using dedicated Bike Paths don't do it. It is not worth it. It only takes one Jackass and you are going to lose the battle with a 21/2 Ton Automobile. Stick to Bike Paths and Parks and ride safely and happily. The number of Ghost Funerals in this City alone is unbelievable. Their ain't nothing Romantic about it. You are Hurt or you are Dead and a Statistic that everyone will forget about.
If you feel more safe, that's fine. They often have their place and a good reason for being there.
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Cycling speeds aren't appropriate near peds, dogs, and kids. Joggers/walkers are guaranteed to suddenly turn and kids/dogs are guaranteed to suddenly dart out -- that's just what they do. This requires low enough speeds to respond to that.
I live in Portland where we have a number of MUPs. Cyclist treatment of peds here is abysmal as the vast majority pass way too close and way too fast. If I were a walker rather than a cyclist, I would hate cyclists.
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I actively avoid MUPs.
Cycling speeds aren't appropriate near peds, dogs, and kids. Joggers/walkers are guaranteed to suddenly turn and kids/dogs are guaranteed to suddenly dart out -- that's just what they do. This requires low enough speeds to respond to that.
I live in Portland where we have a number of MUPs. Cyclist treatment of peds here is abysmal as the vast majority pass way too close and way too fast. If I were a walker rather than a cyclist, I would hate cyclists.
Cycling speeds aren't appropriate near peds, dogs, and kids. Joggers/walkers are guaranteed to suddenly turn and kids/dogs are guaranteed to suddenly dart out -- that's just what they do. This requires low enough speeds to respond to that.
I live in Portland where we have a number of MUPs. Cyclist treatment of peds here is abysmal as the vast majority pass way too close and way too fast. If I were a walker rather than a cyclist, I would hate cyclists.
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I actively avoid MUPs because I prefer a brisk pace, not because I don't think bikes belong. Peds/kids/dogs belong on MUPs and it is neither safe nor appropriate to ride near them at anything other than low speeds.
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Based on riding in a number different cities around the US, I'm gonna say that MUPs are variable as a good place for a 'fast' bike. Even in my region, some MUPs are GREAT for biking fast and some MUPs are total crap.
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Not all MUPs are created equal. And even the same MUP can be a totally different place Monday at 730am than it is Saturday at 10am. Our local MUP, the American River Bike Trail, is a bike highway on weekday mornings where it's mostly commuters, people riding for fitness/training, and riders who are combining the two. On weekend mornings, it's a zoo and I will avoid it at all costs.