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40 Years Ago: September 1983 in Bicycling magazine

Articles/Columns included in this post are:
THE OPEN ROAD
"Getting Your Bike Out the Door" (John Allen and Sheldon Brown)
TECHNICAL Q&A -- found in Post #2 of this thread

The following article in this issue was posted previously:
"USA versus the World" (https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...-come-age.html)
Note: This article might be difficult to read as posted. I've made the pdf available again for a couple of weeks at this link: https://1drv.ms/b/s!AgHfxA8atbGnnnvY...pAbD-?e=yst6po


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Lots of good stuff. Thanks for posting.

I still have my Grab-On saddle pad - the original cover wore out decades ago, but the pad stayed in service with replacement covers (most recently atop a Unicanitor on my Pro, although this saddle was swapped last month). The pad awaits its next assignment, and still has a lot of cushy life left in it. It's nothing like the tie-on pads sold at big box stores - it's relatively small, well-contoured, and doesn't splorp from side to side.

I'm not certain if Mr. Allen is as strongly anti-kickstand as he was 4 decades ago. The bike he borrowed when he visited us several years ago was kickstand-enhanced, with no complaint from him.

Forged 531 decals? Egads. What would they think of the situation 40 years in the future where 531 and other decals are 'braze'nly displayed for sale?

And Lon & Susan are still married.
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Thanks for posting the improved version of the framebuilding article. I saved it because it mentions my wife's Technobull mixte.
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Originally Posted by Rkopec
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Thank you for posting these! I'm looking forward to November as that is my 40th birthday month.
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Thanks for posting these; they are always interesting. A nerdy request: could we see both parts of the generator lights article?
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Always enjoy these posts from SpeedofLite
Really great advert eye candy in this post.
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Originally Posted by gilesa
Thanks for posting these; they are always interesting. A nerdy request: could we see both parts of the generator lights article?
Sure, I can do that.
I'll post both parts of the article in a new Equipment/Product Review thread in a few days.
Look for it on the main C&V page, not here.
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as always, you do a great service man!
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I love the bike handling article about getting through doors. I wish he had explained how to get musical equipment in your trailer through the hotel door.
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Originally Posted by 52telecaster
I love the bike handling article about getting through doors. I wish he had explained how to get musical equipment in your trailer through the hotel door.
I've still got a bunch of solid-state and hybrid bass amps and tube guitar amps, from a silverface Vibro Champ up to and including a six-foot-tall full stack, but all I carry now are a guitar or two, a bag of cables and pedals, and a Mooer modeler and its wireless three-button foot pedal, to plug into the PA. No sacrifice in sound quality or picking response (seriously!), and no problem getting through doors.
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Originally Posted by Trakhak
I've still got a bunch of solid-state and hybrid bass amps and tube guitar amps, from a silverface Vibro Champ up to and including a six-foot-tall full stack, but all I carry now are a guitar or two, a bag of cables and pedals, and a Mooer modeler and its three-button foot pedal, to plug into the PA. No sacrifice in sound quality or picking response (seriously!), and no problem getting through doors.
I'm using a 62 Kay amp, a mic stand and a stuffed guitar bag. Every time I try modeler I hate it. Glad it works for you.
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Regarding "Carrying Your Bicycle", the author did not tell me where I can stick my pump when I remove it from the top-tube pegs.
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Originally Posted by 52telecaster
I'm using a 62 Kay amp, a mic stand and a stuffed guitar bag. Every time I try modeler I hate it. Glad it works for you.
I once had a '38 prototype archtop Epiphone electric guitar with a brass plate on the back of the headstock that listed a string of about eight patent numbers. Back around 1972, I had it and some other equipment stored in the basement of a house that was being sold, and the woman who owned the house warned me repeatedly to get my stuff out. I procrastinated a bit too long. Gone.
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Originally Posted by 52telecaster
I'm using a 62 Kay amp, a mic stand and a stuffed guitar bag. Every time I try modeler I hate it. Glad it works for you.
JHS Pedals has a YouTube channel where Josh Scott, the company's owner, has been presenting highly eccentric and entertaining equipment videos for years. Almost every video includes product demos featuring Josh on guitar plus a bass player and a drummer, so you hear the pedal or whatever it is that's being demo'd in band context. In each of those demos, one or two boutique tube amps from Josh's vast stash are prominently displayed.

Josh recently revealed that, over the last year, the tube amp apparently being used in the video was a decoy. All that time, he'd in fact been playing through an amp modeler.

He reported gleefully that, of the tens of thousands of viewers who commented on his videos, not a single one had detected that they were listening to a modeler, despite the fact that a sizable proportion of them were very vocal about being in the modelers-make-me-retch camp.

The comments under that reveal video were fun to read.

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In fairness, Josh, having been a pedal designer for many years, would be well aware of the ins and outs of tweaking equipment for the best sound, so he'd know how to rein in the overhyped presets of many modelers. Such presets are meant to wow customers in guitar stores but are usually all but useless on stage.

In other words, you'd probably have had to spend hours with a modeler to get a sound that rivals that of your simple little Kay amp. Which would be pointless for you, since your Kay amp does what you need it to.

Modelers are mostly good for people who aren't satisfied with having an amp that has only one or two good sounds and want more. There's nothing wrong with that.

Here's that reveal video, by the way.


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Originally Posted by Trakhak
I once had a '38 prototype archtop Epiphone electric guitar with a brass plate on the back of the headstock that listed a string of about eight patent numbers. Back around 1972, I had it and some other equipment stored in the basement of a house that was being sold, and the woman who owned the house warned me repeatedly to get my stuff out. I procrastinated a bit too long. Gone.
The ignorance of youth.
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Originally Posted by Trakhak
JHS Pedals has a YouTube channel where Josh Scott, the company's owner, has been presenting highly eccentric and entertaining equipment videos for years. Almost every video includes product demos featuring Josh on guitar plus a bass player and a drummer, so you hear the pedal or whatever it is that's being demo'd in band context. In each of those demos, one or two boutique tube amps from Josh's vast stash are prominently displayed.

Josh recently revealed that, over the last year, the tube amp apparently being used in the video was a decoy. All that time, he'd in fact been playing through an amp modeler.

He reported gleefully that, of the tens of thousands of viewers who commented on his videos, not a single one had detected that they were listening to a modeler, despite the fact that a sizable proportion of them were very vocal about being in the modelers-make-me-retch camp.

The comments under that reveal video were fun to read.

Edit:

In fairness, Josh, having been a pedal designer for many years, would be well aware of the ins and outs of tweaking equipment for the best sound, so he'd know how to rein in the overhyped presets of many modelers. Such presets are meant to wow customers in guitar stores but are usually all but useless on stage.

In other words, you'd probably have had to spend hours with a modeler to get a sound that rivals that of your simple little Kay amp. Which would be pointless for you, since your Kay amp does what you need it to.

Modelers are mostly good for people who aren't satisfied with having an amp that has only one or two good sounds and want more. There's nothing wrong with that.

Here's that reveal video, by the way.

https://youtu.be/Tltu3yVJWQg?si=l9In3wTqlWY7MHCG
For me it isn't that I can hear someone else's modeler, although many times I can. The real issue is I can't get the feel I want. I'm sure it's our there but I'd just as soon use what already works. Even if I have to use a bike trailer.

Kay amp and 73 tele.

Bike, trailer and doors I go through.
this was when I was using a P.A. cabinet. Which sounded lame but I didn't have the Kay option at the time.
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Originally Posted by gilesa
Thanks for posting these; they are always interesting. A nerdy request: could we see both parts of the generator lights article?
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Sure, I can do that.
I'll post both parts of the article in a new Equipment/Product Review thread in a few days.
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Here's the post containing Parts I and II: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...l#post23025200
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The highlight of this issue the the "Who's Ahead" segment ! Keep your jacket on straight.... teeheehee .
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What caught my eye was an ad by International Pro Bike Shop promoting their Pro-1 bike stand. I used one of these for years before I shipped it over to Bucha, Ukraine to be used in our frame/bike repair shop. Here is a picture I took in 2009 of the inside of the shop with frames waiting to be sandblasted and powder coated. The orange bike stand is visible under the old fixture we used to build frames. It was not stolen when the Russians broke in a year ago when they got stalled trying to go to Kyiv.


This was the repair side of the shop. Yuriy the manager preferred this orange Pro-1 bike stand over the portable Park stand.
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