For the love of English 3 speeds...
03-19-22, 02:12 PM
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,571
Bikes: 1971 Hercules, 1978 Raleigh Superbe, 1978 Raleigh Tourist, 1964 Glider 3 Speed, 1967 Raleigh Sprite 5 Speed, 1968 Hercules AMF 3 Speed, 1972 Raleigh Superbe, 1976 Raleigh Superbe, 1957 Flying Pigeon, 1967 Dunelt 3 Speed
Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1028 Post(s)
Liked 439 Times
in
287 Posts
gster : those seat stays are kinda unique - the way they are welded onto the lug/dropout.....
It could also be a Canadian built SCP bike
Similar colour scheme..
Here's a SCP 3 speed with similar geometry
Likes For gster:
03-19-22, 04:39 PM
Full Member
'Gold Medal' was a trademark of D.P. Harris in New York, (Rollfast). I think I've got a badge here somewhere that I took off a 24" ladies model years ago that had a bent frame. It looked a lot like the one with the basket in your pic above. Possibly Gold Medal was a badge they put on bikes from other sources besides Snyder?
The badge I took off it was the same profile and shape as an early prewar Rollfast badge. The bike had no decals on it, just some paint graphics. The fenders, rims, and chainguard were aluminum. It had Westrick pattern wheels in 24x1 3/8". The rims were odd in that they had small holes drilled all along each edge about every inch.
It had a super ornate chainguard, the fenders were the same shape as those in the pic above, it had glass reflector pedals with 1/2" threads, and the strangest of all was the bars and grips. The bars were 1" clamp and bars, as were the grips, which were red to match the bike, but they were molded similar to those that came on 60's and 70's Columbia three speeds. The grips were originally red but had been sun bleached to a white/pink color. The rear hub was a 28h Durex which looked out of place. The rear fender had lacing holes for a skirt guard.
The bike had been out of commission for a long time when I got it via clean out in the late 90's. I stripped it for its parts, sold what I couldn't use and kept the badge, pedals, and the bars. The saddle was a messinger model, it looked the same as what was used on most Schwinn middleweight bikes but without the trademark 'S'. It also had a chrome grab rail around the rear.
The badge I took off it was the same profile and shape as an early prewar Rollfast badge. The bike had no decals on it, just some paint graphics. The fenders, rims, and chainguard were aluminum. It had Westrick pattern wheels in 24x1 3/8". The rims were odd in that they had small holes drilled all along each edge about every inch.
It had a super ornate chainguard, the fenders were the same shape as those in the pic above, it had glass reflector pedals with 1/2" threads, and the strangest of all was the bars and grips. The bars were 1" clamp and bars, as were the grips, which were red to match the bike, but they were molded similar to those that came on 60's and 70's Columbia three speeds. The grips were originally red but had been sun bleached to a white/pink color. The rear hub was a 28h Durex which looked out of place. The rear fender had lacing holes for a skirt guard.
The bike had been out of commission for a long time when I got it via clean out in the late 90's. I stripped it for its parts, sold what I couldn't use and kept the badge, pedals, and the bars. The saddle was a messinger model, it looked the same as what was used on most Schwinn middleweight bikes but without the trademark 'S'. It also had a chrome grab rail around the rear.
03-20-22, 09:00 AM
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,571
Bikes: 1971 Hercules, 1978 Raleigh Superbe, 1978 Raleigh Tourist, 1964 Glider 3 Speed, 1967 Raleigh Sprite 5 Speed, 1968 Hercules AMF 3 Speed, 1972 Raleigh Superbe, 1976 Raleigh Superbe, 1957 Flying Pigeon, 1967 Dunelt 3 Speed
Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1028 Post(s)
Liked 439 Times
in
287 Posts
It's also possible that this is not a factory built bike.
-British brakes/forks and gears
-Phillips pedals
-German front hub
-Unbranded rims
-Unbranded chainring
It's hard to see in the photo but the top tube is not quite
parallel to the ground.
The bike also has an untapped oil port on the BB....
Perhaps it was a custom build for a serious rider in the mid 1950's.
-
-British brakes/forks and gears
-Phillips pedals
-German front hub
-Unbranded rims
-Unbranded chainring
It's hard to see in the photo but the top tube is not quite
parallel to the ground.
The bike also has an untapped oil port on the BB....
Perhaps it was a custom build for a serious rider in the mid 1950's.
-
03-20-22, 04:49 PM
Bikes are okay, I guess.
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Richmond, Virginia
Posts: 6,938
Bikes: Waterford Paramount Touring, Giant CFM-2, Raleigh Sports 3-speeds in M23 & L23, Schwinn Cimarron oddball build, Marin Palisades Trail dropbar conversion, Nishiki Cresta GT
Mentioned: 69 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2647 Post(s)
Liked 2,446 Times
in
1,557 Posts
Likes For thumpism:
03-20-22, 06:22 PM
Bike Doctor
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Southern Ontario
Posts: 141
Bikes: Norco Cape Cod tandem, KHS Tandemania Cross, 1952 Claud Butler ladyback tandem, 1971 & '73 Raleigh Suberbes, 1985 Gazelle Sport Solide, 1985 Rossi professional
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 58 Post(s)
Liked 52 Times
in
24 Posts
Gster, where did you get tires for your EA1 rims?
I've got a 1952 Claud Butler tandem with 26 x 1 1/4 EA1 Dunlop rims, and I'm nervous about spare tires.
I'd also consider grabbing another 40 hole Dunlop EA1 rim, because I've got a NOS 40H Sturmey Archer AB hub I'd respoke and hang it on the tandem along with the original Cyclo gears to make a 9 speed hybrid.
I've got a 1952 Claud Butler tandem with 26 x 1 1/4 EA1 Dunlop rims, and I'm nervous about spare tires.
I'd also consider grabbing another 40 hole Dunlop EA1 rim, because I've got a NOS 40H Sturmey Archer AB hub I'd respoke and hang it on the tandem along with the original Cyclo gears to make a 9 speed hybrid.
03-21-22, 05:15 PM
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,571
Bikes: 1971 Hercules, 1978 Raleigh Superbe, 1978 Raleigh Tourist, 1964 Glider 3 Speed, 1967 Raleigh Sprite 5 Speed, 1968 Hercules AMF 3 Speed, 1972 Raleigh Superbe, 1976 Raleigh Superbe, 1957 Flying Pigeon, 1967 Dunelt 3 Speed
Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1028 Post(s)
Liked 439 Times
in
287 Posts
From Amazon.
You want to look for
Kenda
K23
26 x 1-3/8 x 1-1/4 (ETRTO 37-597) I kept the label.
Also called an S-6
An odd size but they still make them for older Scwinn bikes
I recall they were quite reasonable and fit nicely.
Speaking of.tires,..
I was at Candian Tire today and saw a basic 26 x 1-3/8
tire for $28.99!!!
Last time I bought one (pre covid) they were $15.00!!!!
..
You want to look for
Kenda
K23
26 x 1-3/8 x 1-1/4 (ETRTO 37-597) I kept the label.
Also called an S-6
An odd size but they still make them for older Scwinn bikes
I recall they were quite reasonable and fit nicely.
Speaking of.tires,..
I was at Candian Tire today and saw a basic 26 x 1-3/8
tire for $28.99!!!
Last time I bought one (pre covid) they were $15.00!!!!
..
03-21-22, 06:22 PM
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,571
Bikes: 1971 Hercules, 1978 Raleigh Superbe, 1978 Raleigh Tourist, 1964 Glider 3 Speed, 1967 Raleigh Sprite 5 Speed, 1968 Hercules AMF 3 Speed, 1972 Raleigh Superbe, 1976 Raleigh Superbe, 1957 Flying Pigeon, 1967 Dunelt 3 Speed
Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1028 Post(s)
Liked 439 Times
in
287 Posts
I just saw Walmart Canada had them online for...
$91.00
Must be a supply chain issue......
$91.00
Must be a supply chain issue......
Likes For gster:
03-21-22, 07:47 PM
Bikes are okay, I guess.
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Richmond, Virginia
Posts: 6,938
Bikes: Waterford Paramount Touring, Giant CFM-2, Raleigh Sports 3-speeds in M23 & L23, Schwinn Cimarron oddball build, Marin Palisades Trail dropbar conversion, Nishiki Cresta GT
Mentioned: 69 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2647 Post(s)
Liked 2,446 Times
in
1,557 Posts
FREE Popular FREE Sports Model FREE Sturmey FREE Electric horn FREE in MA. Did I mention...free?
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...89432642916102
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...89432642916102
Likes For thumpism:
03-21-22, 07:54 PM
Bike Doctor
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Southern Ontario
Posts: 141
Bikes: Norco Cape Cod tandem, KHS Tandemania Cross, 1952 Claud Butler ladyback tandem, 1971 & '73 Raleigh Suberbes, 1985 Gazelle Sport Solide, 1985 Rossi professional
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 58 Post(s)
Liked 52 Times
in
24 Posts
From Amazon.
You want to look for
Kenda
K23
26 x 1-3/8 x 1-1/4 (ETRTO 37-597) I kept the label.
Also called an S-6
An odd size but they still make them for older Scwinn bikes
I recall they were quite reasonable and fit nicely.
Speaking of.tires,..
I was at Candian Tire today and saw a basic 26 x 1-3/8
tire for $28.99!!!
Last time I bought one (pre covid) they were $15.00!!!!
..
You want to look for
Kenda
K23
26 x 1-3/8 x 1-1/4 (ETRTO 37-597) I kept the label.
Also called an S-6
An odd size but they still make them for older Scwinn bikes
I recall they were quite reasonable and fit nicely.
Speaking of.tires,..
I was at Candian Tire today and saw a basic 26 x 1-3/8
tire for $28.99!!!
Last time I bought one (pre covid) they were $15.00!!!!
..
Thanks for the link. At least I know I won't be forced to ride one of our other tandems just cause I get a flat.
03-21-22, 08:00 PM
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Ontario
Posts: 2,648
Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 478 Post(s)
Liked 634 Times
in
336 Posts
Likes For markk900:
03-21-22, 08:46 PM
On the road
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: New England
Posts: 2,171
Bikes: Old Schwinns and old Raleighs
Mentioned: 35 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 373 Post(s)
Liked 847 Times
in
323 Posts
Spring has arrived here, and I finally got to start the season today with this 1964 Schwinn Traveler 3 speed.
__________________
Classic American and British Roadsters, Utility Bikes, and Sporting Bikes (1935-1979):
https://bikeshedva.blogspot.com/
Classic American and British Roadsters, Utility Bikes, and Sporting Bikes (1935-1979):
https://bikeshedva.blogspot.com/
Likes For SirMike1983:
03-22-22, 02:23 AM
Member
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 43
Bikes: 1985 Davidson Signature, 1983 Davidson Signature, 2002 Trek 5200, 1973 Raleigh Gran Sport, 1980 Kobe Citation, 1954 Raleigh Sports, 1984 Davidson Tandem, 1991 Specialized Stumpjumper Comp, 1936 Elgin American
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Liked 24 Times
in
14 Posts
03-22-22, 06:51 AM
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,571
Bikes: 1971 Hercules, 1978 Raleigh Superbe, 1978 Raleigh Tourist, 1964 Glider 3 Speed, 1967 Raleigh Sprite 5 Speed, 1968 Hercules AMF 3 Speed, 1972 Raleigh Superbe, 1976 Raleigh Superbe, 1957 Flying Pigeon, 1967 Dunelt 3 Speed
Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1028 Post(s)
Liked 439 Times
in
287 Posts
03-22-22, 07:38 AM
On the road
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: New England
Posts: 2,171
Bikes: Old Schwinns and old Raleighs
Mentioned: 35 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 373 Post(s)
Liked 847 Times
in
323 Posts
That is right, these are Kenda 37-597 white walls on Schwinn S5 westrick-type rims. The original white walls that came with the bike probably could still be ridden, but they felt kind of dry to me so I put new tires and tubes on the wheels. The Kendas are not great tires, but not bad either. I wish Schwalbe or Michelin would do a white wall in this size.
__________________
Classic American and British Roadsters, Utility Bikes, and Sporting Bikes (1935-1979):
https://bikeshedva.blogspot.com/
Classic American and British Roadsters, Utility Bikes, and Sporting Bikes (1935-1979):
https://bikeshedva.blogspot.com/
03-22-22, 04:09 PM
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,571
Bikes: 1971 Hercules, 1978 Raleigh Superbe, 1978 Raleigh Tourist, 1964 Glider 3 Speed, 1967 Raleigh Sprite 5 Speed, 1968 Hercules AMF 3 Speed, 1972 Raleigh Superbe, 1976 Raleigh Superbe, 1957 Flying Pigeon, 1967 Dunelt 3 Speed
Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1028 Post(s)
Liked 439 Times
in
287 Posts
Gster, where did you get tires for your EA1 rims?
I've got a 1952 Claud Butler tandem with 26 x 1 1/4 EA1 Dunlop rims, and I'm nervous about spare tires.
I'd also consider grabbing another 40 hole Dunlop EA1 rim, because I've got a NOS 40H Sturmey Archer AB hub I'd respoke and hang it on the tandem along with the original Cyclo gears to make a 9 speed hybrid.
I've got a 1952 Claud Butler tandem with 26 x 1 1/4 EA1 Dunlop rims, and I'm nervous about spare tires.
I'd also consider grabbing another 40 hole Dunlop EA1 rim, because I've got a NOS 40H Sturmey Archer AB hub I'd respoke and hang it on the tandem along with the original Cyclo gears to make a 9 speed hybrid.
Sadly, the main hanger is bent and I haven't gotten around to fixing it
Likes For gster:
03-23-22, 12:35 PM
Standard Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Brunswick, Maine
Posts: 4,253
Bikes: 1948 P. Barnard & Son, 1962 Rudge Sports, 1963 Freddie Grubb Routier, 1980 Manufrance Hirondelle, 1983 F. Moser Sprint, 1989 Raleigh Technium Pre, 2001 Raleigh M80
Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1293 Post(s)
Liked 933 Times
in
486 Posts
03-23-22, 12:47 PM
Standard Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Brunswick, Maine
Posts: 4,253
Bikes: 1948 P. Barnard & Son, 1962 Rudge Sports, 1963 Freddie Grubb Routier, 1980 Manufrance Hirondelle, 1983 F. Moser Sprint, 1989 Raleigh Technium Pre, 2001 Raleigh M80
Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1293 Post(s)
Liked 933 Times
in
486 Posts
swampyankee2, the bike looks great. Not sure about how to bring the finish on your spokes back to new, but I would be interested to find out!
Did you say the bike has been in a damp cellar for thirty years? The B72 saddle looks pristine.
Last edited by 1989Pre; 03-23-22 at 12:52 PM.
03-23-22, 12:53 PM
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,571
Bikes: 1971 Hercules, 1978 Raleigh Superbe, 1978 Raleigh Tourist, 1964 Glider 3 Speed, 1967 Raleigh Sprite 5 Speed, 1968 Hercules AMF 3 Speed, 1972 Raleigh Superbe, 1976 Raleigh Superbe, 1957 Flying Pigeon, 1967 Dunelt 3 Speed
Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1028 Post(s)
Liked 439 Times
in
287 Posts
Likes For gster:
03-23-22, 12:55 PM
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,571
Bikes: 1971 Hercules, 1978 Raleigh Superbe, 1978 Raleigh Tourist, 1964 Glider 3 Speed, 1967 Raleigh Sprite 5 Speed, 1968 Hercules AMF 3 Speed, 1972 Raleigh Superbe, 1976 Raleigh Superbe, 1957 Flying Pigeon, 1967 Dunelt 3 Speed
Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1028 Post(s)
Liked 439 Times
in
287 Posts
I actually haven't tried fitting it to a bike.
Perhaps it's not bent....
Perhaps it's not bent....
Last edited by gster; 03-23-22 at 12:59 PM.
Likes For gster:
03-23-22, 12:58 PM
Standard Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Brunswick, Maine
Posts: 4,253
Bikes: 1948 P. Barnard & Son, 1962 Rudge Sports, 1963 Freddie Grubb Routier, 1980 Manufrance Hirondelle, 1983 F. Moser Sprint, 1989 Raleigh Technium Pre, 2001 Raleigh M80
Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1293 Post(s)
Liked 933 Times
in
486 Posts
03-23-22, 02:19 PM
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,571
Bikes: 1971 Hercules, 1978 Raleigh Superbe, 1978 Raleigh Tourist, 1964 Glider 3 Speed, 1967 Raleigh Sprite 5 Speed, 1968 Hercules AMF 3 Speed, 1972 Raleigh Superbe, 1976 Raleigh Superbe, 1957 Flying Pigeon, 1967 Dunelt 3 Speed
Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1028 Post(s)
Liked 439 Times
in
287 Posts
Thanksfor the offer
You got me thinking about it...
I did a "dry" fit to an old 3 speed that has a double sprocket.
Perhaps it's not bent...
I need to open up the dropout a bit the receive the locking nut but it seems reasonably inline....
I reefed on it a bit and the cogs seem to be in line with the chain.
I think the cogs are 17T and 21T.
Another project.
The cogs look a bit askew in this photo (before reefing)
Derailleurs are not reallly my thing....
We'll see how it plays out..
You got me thinking about it...
I did a "dry" fit to an old 3 speed that has a double sprocket.
Perhaps it's not bent...
I need to open up the dropout a bit the receive the locking nut but it seems reasonably inline....
I reefed on it a bit and the cogs seem to be in line with the chain.
I think the cogs are 17T and 21T.
Another project.
The cogs look a bit askew in this photo (before reefing)
Derailleurs are not reallly my thing....
We'll see how it plays out..
Likes For gster:
03-23-22, 02:30 PM
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,571
Bikes: 1971 Hercules, 1978 Raleigh Superbe, 1978 Raleigh Tourist, 1964 Glider 3 Speed, 1967 Raleigh Sprite 5 Speed, 1968 Hercules AMF 3 Speed, 1972 Raleigh Superbe, 1976 Raleigh Superbe, 1957 Flying Pigeon, 1967 Dunelt 3 Speed
Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1028 Post(s)
Liked 439 Times
in
287 Posts
Gster, where did you get tires for your EA1 rims?
I've got a 1952 Claud Butler tandem with 26 x 1 1/4 EA1 Dunlop rims, and I'm nervous about spare tires.
I'd also consider grabbing another 40 hole Dunlop EA1 rim, because I've got a NOS 40H Sturmey Archer AB hub I'd respoke and hang it on the tandem along with the original Cyclo gears to make a 9 speed hybrid.
I've got a 1952 Claud Butler tandem with 26 x 1 1/4 EA1 Dunlop rims, and I'm nervous about spare tires.
I'd also consider grabbing another 40 hole Dunlop EA1 rim, because I've got a NOS 40H Sturmey Archer AB hub I'd respoke and hang it on the tandem along with the original Cyclo gears to make a 9 speed hybrid.
I remember it from a few years back.
I'd like see how you routed the cable plus a general refresher before I proceed.
THX!
Likes For gster:
03-23-22, 04:09 PM
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,571
Bikes: 1971 Hercules, 1978 Raleigh Superbe, 1978 Raleigh Tourist, 1964 Glider 3 Speed, 1967 Raleigh Sprite 5 Speed, 1968 Hercules AMF 3 Speed, 1972 Raleigh Superbe, 1976 Raleigh Superbe, 1957 Flying Pigeon, 1967 Dunelt 3 Speed
Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1028 Post(s)
Liked 439 Times
in
287 Posts
03-24-22, 02:36 PM
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,571
Bikes: 1971 Hercules, 1978 Raleigh Superbe, 1978 Raleigh Tourist, 1964 Glider 3 Speed, 1967 Raleigh Sprite 5 Speed, 1968 Hercules AMF 3 Speed, 1972 Raleigh Superbe, 1976 Raleigh Superbe, 1957 Flying Pigeon, 1967 Dunelt 3 Speed
Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1028 Post(s)
Liked 439 Times
in
287 Posts
