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Old 06-28-21, 05:22 PM
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How to patch a tire using a jacket liner

Originally Posted by dabac
Tires are more than rubber. They have a reinforcing layer of threads. You might have seen tires listed as having this-or-that TPI - threads-per-inch. For any chance of a lasting repair your patch needs to have a similar structure.
I've used patches cut from an old jacket liner. I work liquisole into the patch until saturation before applying over the cut. For a road tire I'd patch both sides. You might want to stitch the cut closed first. And clean/roughen the surface first. I've used abt 15 mm overlap.
Does anyone know what dabac means by a jacket liner?
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Old 06-28-21, 05:41 PM
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I would imagine that it is the polyester sateen material which lines the inside of an outdoors jacket.
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Originally Posted by seibaatgung
Does anyone know what dabac means by a jacket liner?
By jacket he means something you wear in cooler weather. Some jackets have internal liners, that is an additional layer of fabric on the inside. He has cut a piece of fabric from the internal liner of an old jacket, and glued it to the inside of a tire, to patch it. It is necessary to use appropriate glue.

This could be used where a tire is split, and pumping it up would open up the split. The fabric glued to it, holds it closed.
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Some people have used ordinary patches on the inside of tires, but they have not been strong enough.

Another option is to glue a thicker piece of rubber to the inside of the tire.
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Originally Posted by alo
By jacket he means something you wear in cooler weather. Some jackets have internal liners, that is an additional layer of fabric on the inside. He has cut a piece of fabric from the internal liner of an old jacket, and glued it to the inside of a tire, to patch it. It is necessary to use appropriate glue.

This could be used where a tire is split, and pumping it up would open up the split. The fabric glued to it, holds it closed.
I'm a native English speaker. I know what a jacket is and that they usually have inner mesh layers but was confused as to how that sufficed to hold the tire together. Anyways I'm not totally sure how it would work for a sidewall slash.
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Some people have used ordinary patches on the inside of tires, but they have not been strong enough.

Another option is to glue a thicker piece of rubber to the inside of the tire.
Like a radial patch for a car tire?
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Conditions & options are not predictable, but if it were I, I'd use the old tube & double patch the tires problem area. Then install the new tube.
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Originally Posted by Troul
Conditions & options are not predictable, but if it were I, I'd use the old tube & double patch the tires problem area. Then install the new tube.
I'm tubeless
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Originally Posted by seibaatgung
Like a radial patch for a car tire?
You could use anything that is strong enough. For example, you could cut a piece of rubber from a truck tube, and glue it inside the tire.

You could even use two layers.

You need an appropriate glue.

Another option would be to cut a piece of rubber from the sidewall of an old tire and use that.
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I think dabac is just using his smarts to improvise with a perfectly good solution and anything that is a light, strong and non-elastic woven material should work. Regular tube patches are a poor solution for cuts as they can stretch rather than hold a cut closed. They can work for small cuts and emergency repairs but not as strong as a proper patch. There are special patches made for cuts in tubeless tires as well and his suggestion to sew the cut together first is a good one.
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Originally Posted by seibaatgung
I'm tubeless
That blows.
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Perhaps spinnaker cloth would work?
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Originally Posted by Troul
That blows.
Or sucks, if you are in deep water.
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fwiw - I started carrying these a while ago. I use tubes, but I suppose they would work for tubeless, no?

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If the cut is big enough that the area bulges, I'd personally pitch the tire. If the cut is small enough that it doesn't bulge, a regular inner tube patch kit will suffice.
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Best fix for tire slits: Tyvek from FedEx shipping envelopes. Cut a piece from the flap of the envelope, peel off the paper that covers the adhesive, and apply. I always use two pieces of the Tyvek, one on top of the other, with the fibers in the patches oriented at 90 degrees to each other.
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get a new tire....that simple, especially tubeless or put a tube in and get some more miles on the tire
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Originally Posted by alo
Some people have used ordinary patches on the inside of tires, but they have not been strong enough.

Another option is to glue a thicker piece of rubber to the inside of the tire.
There are TL patches meant for TL tyres, made with a reinforcing ply of "cloth" They are usually a different colour identify and separate them from ordinary tube patches I believe the Rema ones are blue. For instance the Rema tip top tt13 set of patches and glue.

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