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04-26-20, 07:36 AM
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Rise...Rise!
I know it's an old thread, but does anyone know the proper bottom bracket spindle length for these cranks? I bought some Suntour Road Vx cranks, and, according to an old advert, they're interchangeable with the Maxy. Which is good, because I can find hardly any info on Vx cranks.
So, anyone know a good spindle length? I'm assuming it'll be somewhere around 120mm.
Edit: I found this spindle on looses crews, 124mm Sugino Maxy spindle. Seems like the right size. I'll confirm or deny once the cranks arrive.
https://www.loosescrews.com/product/...dle-bolt-type/
I know it's an old thread, but does anyone know the proper bottom bracket spindle length for these cranks? I bought some Suntour Road Vx cranks, and, according to an old advert, they're interchangeable with the Maxy. Which is good, because I can find hardly any info on Vx cranks.
So, anyone know a good spindle length? I'm assuming it'll be somewhere around 120mm.
Edit: I found this spindle on looses crews, 124mm Sugino Maxy spindle. Seems like the right size. I'll confirm or deny once the cranks arrive.
https://www.loosescrews.com/product/...dle-bolt-type/
04-26-20, 06:24 PM
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FC-6100 is the first 5 arm "600" and is swaged and preceeds 6200 by 1 year.
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04-26-20, 07:01 PM
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Yes it does look different; sharp corner at crank arm & star. The one I have does not have that sharp edge.
Velobase:
Clearly swaged https://velobase.com/ViewComponent.as...m=115&AbsPos=1
Not swaged https://velobase.com/ViewComponent.as...m=115&AbsPos=0
I need to check my DX-4000 more closely; the photo is a spare set.
This turned into a thread hijack; sorry OP.
Velobase:
Clearly swaged https://velobase.com/ViewComponent.as...m=115&AbsPos=1
Not swaged https://velobase.com/ViewComponent.as...m=115&AbsPos=0
I need to check my DX-4000 more closely; the photo is a spare set.
This turned into a thread hijack; sorry OP.
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04-26-20, 08:44 PM
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also, you can see on the swaged one the spider arms are quite different - the fluting on each arm is less carefully done and shallower, and rather than taper elegantly towards each crank bolt, the arms flare out again. very odd duck, this was.
Yes it does look different; sharp corner at crank arm & star. The one I have does not have that sharp edge.
Velobase:
Clearly swaged VeloBase.com - Component: Shimano FC-6200, 600EX Arabesque
Not swaged VeloBase.com - Component: Shimano FC-6200, 600EX Arabesque
I need to check my DX-4000 more closely; the photo is a spare set.
Velobase:
Clearly swaged VeloBase.com - Component: Shimano FC-6200, 600EX Arabesque
Not swaged VeloBase.com - Component: Shimano FC-6200, 600EX Arabesque
I need to check my DX-4000 more closely; the photo is a spare set.
04-27-20, 05:25 AM
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With a stronlight triplizer unswaged
although I've never had a problem with either style.
04-27-20, 06:44 AM
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Swaged Maxy was dealer-installed original on a '78 Trek TX770 (called a 912 on the original invoice) I bought from the original owner.
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04-27-20, 07:03 AM
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I've known one Maxy II crank to fail, the predecessor to this one. The spider, including the swaged part, was already damaged when I began working with it but I was using it as the mockup for my K-Mart Triple, a 34-45 double with a 22T freewheel cog bolted onto the spider as a granny gear and that was mostly to get the spacing right. First ride I shifted into the 22 front and 34 rear and spun the spider so I got this crank (Fuji-branded Maxy II) and have had no problems.
04-27-20, 07:24 AM
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Yes, according to Velobase. Looks about right, too.
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04-27-20, 01:04 PM
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Yes it does look different; sharp corner at crank arm & star. The one I have does not have that sharp edge.
Velobase:
Clearly swaged VeloBase.com - Component: Shimano FC-6200, 600EX Arabesque
Not swaged VeloBase.com - Component: Shimano FC-6200, 600EX Arabesque
I need to check my DX-4000 more closely; the photo is a spare set.
This turned into a thread hijack; sorry OP.
Velobase:
Clearly swaged VeloBase.com - Component: Shimano FC-6200, 600EX Arabesque
Not swaged VeloBase.com - Component: Shimano FC-6200, 600EX Arabesque
I need to check my DX-4000 more closely; the photo is a spare set.
This turned into a thread hijack; sorry OP.
I've known one Maxy II crank to fail, the predecessor to this one. The spider, including the swaged part, was already damaged when I began working with it but I was using it as the mockup for my K-Mart Triple, a 34-45 double with a 22T freewheel cog bolted onto the spider as a granny gear and that was mostly to get the spacing right. First ride I shifted into the 22 front and 34 rear and spun the spider so I got this crank (Fuji-branded Maxy II) and have had no problems.
That is truly something else...and you've had no issues so far? Do you ever use the granny gear while standing up and grinding up steep hills, or is it mostly used with smooth pedaling?
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04-27-20, 06:16 PM
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No issues but not huge miles over the years. And I'm a lightweight, not physically but muscularly, so no grinding for me. I do have a pretty smooth cadence.
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Found this thing that's been hiding in the garage, a Super Maxy of the T/A look. Just the one arm and it appears to be swaged.
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End Nut for Sugino Maxy
Hi! Im quite new here but I'm looking for what end nuts I need to attach the sugino cranks I have to the bottom bracket of the Vittorio bike I am trying to build. Any ideas?
01-26-21, 09:00 AM
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01-26-21, 09:10 AM
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SOME early 600 Arabesque are swaged most are not.
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01-26-21, 09:51 AM
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simonab what does the spindle look like? I can't quite see it in the picture. If it is as I suspect a normal spindle with a threaded stud then a 14mm nut should work - as far as I know it can be any brand as long as its the correct thread for the spindle. I have swapped SR, campy, and Sugino cranks on the same spindle with the same nuts.
01-26-21, 10:43 AM
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simonab what does the spindle look like? I can't quite see it in the picture. If it is as I suspect a normal spindle with a threaded stud then a 14mm nut should work - as far as I know it can be any brand as long as its the correct thread for the spindle. I have swapped SR, campy, and Sugino cranks on the same spindle with the same nuts.
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