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Friend of mine wanted a Rohloff Rivendell. Grant sez he doesn't want to go there. He knows I just took the UBI framebuilding class, and asks if I'm ready for #2. We get to talking, he fronts me a frame jig.
Rohloff needs a beefy dropout for the OEM attachment. No way an anti-torque bar is getting bolted up to the chain stay.
He wanted a diagatube. I tried to talk him out of it. He reminded me that he's 6'6", and hates having to reach down so far for water. I relent.
Try and find a set of lugs for that middle tube. So I make custom set.
He has a hankering for hellenic stays. He also has a tendency to break seat post binder posts, and asks, "A spare?"
I relent, and come up with a custom seat lug.
Centerpull brake posts, internal fork and downtube wiring, custom front rack and lowriders. 700c wheels with the new 44mm wide Snowqualmie Pass tires. Fenders, of course.
A mad dash the last 3 days to get it done.
Some sanding to do, but that's a wrap.
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Rohloff needs a beefy dropout for the OEM attachment. No way an anti-torque bar is getting bolted up to the chain stay.
He wanted a diagatube. I tried to talk him out of it. He reminded me that he's 6'6", and hates having to reach down so far for water. I relent.
Try and find a set of lugs for that middle tube. So I make custom set.
He has a hankering for hellenic stays. He also has a tendency to break seat post binder posts, and asks, "A spare?"
I relent, and come up with a custom seat lug.
Centerpull brake posts, internal fork and downtube wiring, custom front rack and lowriders. 700c wheels with the new 44mm wide Snowqualmie Pass tires. Fenders, of course.
A mad dash the last 3 days to get it done.
Some sanding to do, but that's a wrap.
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Whoooeeee, you sure give in easy.
I once had a builder refuse to lengthen chainstays, " I don't sell touring bikes."
edit: Inquiring minds want to know the HT length on that puppy?
I once had a builder refuse to lengthen chainstays, " I don't sell touring bikes."
edit: Inquiring minds want to know the HT length on that puppy?
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Man it must be cool to be able to do that.
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Damn! I'll start saving for gugie003.
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Awesome work! Will we get to see that painted and built?
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Wicked cool! Looking forward to the finished bike!
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Wow, that's fantastic. Every now and then I start thinking about building a frame but I haven't worked up the courage to try just yet. Doubt I'll be taking any of your business if I ever do, though.
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Not a fan of the extra tube concept, but excellent work!
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Impressive work, @gugie!
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A lot of brazing for just 1 frame/rack. Yathink?
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Way, way cool.
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Yeah, that is really cool!
But I don't understand the dropouts. I thought Rohloff requires horizontal dropouts, so you can tension the chain?
But I don't understand the dropouts. I thought Rohloff requires horizontal dropouts, so you can tension the chain?
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You have some mad-serious skills, Gugie, just one frame building course and you are turning out truly original designs. Chapeau sir, Chapeau.
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I think this winter we be building up frames while Gugie be BUILDING frames !
Nice work and you got a frame jig out of it, not bad. I like the Hellenic stays especially.
Nice work and you got a frame jig out of it, not bad. I like the Hellenic stays especially.
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For a second frame, that is a lot of special features & details! Nicely done!
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Mad skills, all in, killer, killer stuff!
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My buddy's getting it done back home in Berkeley, CA. It'll probably be sometime late winter.
I tried to talk him out of it, but he was persuasive. That and it brings his water bottle up closer within reach.
Yep, but that's the fun part! Filing and sanding is hard on the hands.
Chain tensioner. The dropout has a derailleur hanger on it. We went round and round on that design element. I've ridden with Andy (customer) a lot, he's always fidgeting around with seat adjustments like he's Eddy Merckx. An eccentric would just add to that, and he wanted vertical dropouts, so the tensioner was the lesser of evils for him.
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Very cool second frame. Congrats. I especially like the double bolt seat cluster, even if it was only done cuz your friend is OCD about saddle adjustments.
I'm not really a huge fan of the middle tube thing either, but it does give it a certain retro vibe, and it works aesthetically here. I'd imagine it does stiffen up the frame. Then there's the water bottle issue it solves. I've noticed mine keeps getting farther away too!
A TIG welder would come in handy for those custom lugs. Perhaps put that on your list...
I'm not really a huge fan of the middle tube thing either, but it does give it a certain retro vibe, and it works aesthetically here. I'd imagine it does stiffen up the frame. Then there's the water bottle issue it solves. I've noticed mine keeps getting farther away too!
A TIG welder would come in handy for those custom lugs. Perhaps put that on your list...