It just doesnt make any sense
11-05-21, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by seypat
Do we have any any auctioneers on the forum?
"Got 21, 21, 21! Do I hear 22, 22, 22? Gimme 22, 22, 22!"
"Got 21, 21, 21! Do I hear 22, 22, 22? Gimme 22, 22, 22!"
11-05-21, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by rydabent
More with the personal attacks. Just try to add your points to the debate. It would be nice for a change.
I added my points way back. Try to keep up.
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11-05-21, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
Wrong, the only correct answer is the 5 speed IG hub. Myself and 99% of the cyclists on the planet are doing it wrong.
I even had the parts laid out in case I got in a mood to put gears on the road bike.
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11-05-21, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rydabent
So who do you say is right, the people that want 36 gears or the 1x people???
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11-05-21, 07:43 PM
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Skipping from page 8 to 18 because i have important things to do like straighten out the internet.
Firstly, unicycles can have handlebars (for speed records and long distance comfort), gears (internal, shift by whacking the end of the axle with your ankle) and disc brakes (skills required). Google before posting nonsense, folks.
Secondly, tandem unicycles have one wheel and two people. Sheesh.
Thirdly, the retro grouch market, aka C&V, is large enough to ensure an increasingly expensive triple option will survive. This will benefit the esoteric and niche but not big enough alone to do the job recumbent market.
Finally, and this is so exhausting, the future of BSO triples is guaranteed, since "33 speeds" sounds way sexier than "1x" pronounced one ex.
Firstly, unicycles can have handlebars (for speed records and long distance comfort), gears (internal, shift by whacking the end of the axle with your ankle) and disc brakes (skills required). Google before posting nonsense, folks.
Secondly, tandem unicycles have one wheel and two people. Sheesh.
Thirdly, the retro grouch market, aka C&V, is large enough to ensure an increasingly expensive triple option will survive. This will benefit the esoteric and niche but not big enough alone to do the job recumbent market.
Finally, and this is so exhausting, the future of BSO triples is guaranteed, since "33 speeds" sounds way sexier than "1x" pronounced one ex.
11-05-21, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ofajen
So a Suntour 5-speed freewheel is wrong, even though it’s Perfect?
I even had the parts laid out in case I got in a mood to put gears on the road bike.
Otto
I even had the parts laid out in case I got in a mood to put gears on the road bike.
Otto
It's objectively wrong but I can't stop you. But if you expect to get ice cream, forget about it.
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11-05-21, 08:47 PM
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22 pages! Who woulda thought?
11-05-21, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SpeedyBlueBiker
22 pages! Who woulda thought?
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11-05-21, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ofajen
So a Suntour 5-speed freewheel is wrong, even though it’s Perfect?
I even had the parts laid out in case I got in a mood to put gears on the road bike.
Otto
I even had the parts laid out in case I got in a mood to put gears on the road bike.
Otto
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11-05-21, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
It just doesn't make any sense.
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11-05-21, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 70sSanO
Even if no one supports you, I still think you’re a Winne
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11-05-21, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by seypat
Did he just start posting in the thread? That would make him a New Winner as well.
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11-05-21, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 70sSanO
True, but he might need another cog or two.
John
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11-05-21, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
It's worth noting that all bikes, including those with multi-speed freewheels, were "1x" before the invention of the front derailleur
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11-05-21, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by seypat
Did he just start posting in the thread? That would make him a New Winner as well.
Otto
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11-06-21, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ofajen
Thanks! I’m Ultra-grateful for the recognition!
Otto
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Still, no ice cream for you.
11-06-21, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
A lot of people on this forum are missing a cog or two.
I don't need them since I got my mag-lev bike.
11-06-21, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
A lot of people on this forum are missing a cog or two.
11-06-21, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Gonzo Bob
Dude, it's not about right or wrong. It's a preference. I actually defended you about a week ago when I thought many seemed to be misinterpreting your original post, which I thought was lamenting the lack of availability of triples. Now I think you're just bashing 1x (many of which have bash guards ).
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11-06-21, 08:34 AM
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And the winner is.......
https://www.cyclingabout.com/1x-2x-3...g-bikepacking/
https://www.cyclingabout.com/1x-2x-3...g-bikepacking/
11-06-21, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by rydabent
If some people like 1x that is fine with me. The ones I am questioning is the mfg that want to claim triples and doubles on the crank is now obsolete.
11-06-21, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by badger1
1x11: 42 ring; 11-42 cassette. Previous bike was a double: 48/34; 12-32.
For the riding I do, the 1x drivetrain has proven perfectly fine. I like it, and doubt I'd go back. Don't miss the double at all, and I like the simplicity of 1x.
Of course, that's because I'm "stupid", 'never learned to shift properly', and a victim of the Evil Schemes of Big Bike, according to teh Biek Forms' hive mind.
For the riding I do, the 1x drivetrain has proven perfectly fine. I like it, and doubt I'd go back. Don't miss the double at all, and I like the simplicity of 1x.
Of course, that's because I'm "stupid", 'never learned to shift properly', and a victim of the Evil Schemes of Big Bike, according to teh Biek Forms' hive mind.
This thread has got me thinking about what is the "best gearing setup" and I find that hard to quantify, as there is a decent sized range of options I would be equally happy with, in 1x, 2x or 3x.
Availability of options going forward will probably play a larger role in future choices I make, rather than me finally deciding "Yes, this is exactly the gearing setup I must have".
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Originally Posted by HTupolev
People have been throwing extra sprockets at their crank arms for just about as long as chain drives have been practical. For example, there was a patent by Charles Dubos in 1868 for putting multiple chainwheels on the crank of a tricycle, and the 1869 retro-direct belt drive patent from Barberon & Meunier is arguably using a type of "2x" crank (albeit with internal freewheels).
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11-06-21, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by rydabent
If some people like 1x that is fine with me. The ones I am questioning is the mfg that want to claim triples and doubles on the crank is now obsolete.
When I mentioned Elon Musk being worth $300 billion is was more a testament to electric vehicles. Twenty years ago the Honda Insight was a total sales disaster. Apart from having a hideous appearance, there was no viable market for it.
Teslas have a better appearance, but still nothing close to earth shattering, and twenty years later they have become luxury/pseudo luxury cars of choice. And it is not because 6 figure executives are conscious about fossil fuels.
The Dura Ace 7803 was the signal of the demise. A great crank that should have been embraced by triple road enthusiasts seeking a high end option. My regret was not being interested in triples when they were being sold at blow out prices.
John
