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Old 12-09-21, 03:30 PM
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3 votes for buying the Fulcrums, and no naysayers. I suspect if I asked on the C&V forum the answer would be different..... BUT despite its age, the Ritchey is not a C&V bike.
I agree with buying, but someone like seedsbelize will tell you that wheelbuilding is the way to go. Your choice.
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Originally Posted by genejockey View Post
. BUT I wouldn't have the experience of building wheels. So, how much is that experience worth?


You seem to enjoy working on bikes, so you might become a Zen wheelbuilder. I tried it, didn't like it, but I'd rather not work on things anymore. Although I did put a cam actuator solenoid in my car on Monday.

There's this Litespeed Ultimate on Ebay, but it would need a complete rebuild that would run about $1500-2000 altogether......
Maybe you could add a room for more bikes.
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Old 12-09-21, 03:33 PM
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I am on the horns of a dilemma. I found rims, spokes, and nipples as well as tension gauge and nipple driver for rebuilding the wheels for the Ritchey. The total is pretty close to a brand new pair of Fulcrum Racing 4's from PBK, which would be lighter, more aerodynamic, and probably better quality than I could build myself. BUT I wouldn't have the experience of building wheels. So, how much is that experience worth?

Buying the Fulcrums doesn't prevent me later buying the stuff to build the wheel, but it would be later.

Then there's another dilemma - Mrs. GeneJockey just spent a chunk of money on that bassoon, which means one of two things - 1) this frees me to spend a similar, but lower amount on myself, or 2) this means I shouldn't spend anything like that on myself, since she's spent so much. There's this Litespeed Ultimate on Ebay, but it would need a complete rebuild that would run about $1500-2000 altogether......
Just buy the wheels. Even if you build 5 sets you aren't saving enough to make it worth it. You still need to buy all the parts to build a set of wheels with, that's most of the value. The knowledge is nice but you can learn it later.
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Old 12-09-21, 03:41 PM
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That's the one that always cones to mind. From uhf weird AL Yankovic. The guy in it playing Stanley Spudowski is Kramer from Seinfeld.
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Old 12-09-21, 03:44 PM
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That's the one that always cones to mind. From uhf weird AL Yankovic. The guy in it playing Stanley Spudowski is Kramer from Seinfeld.
Of course this is the OG:

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OMG, I was scheduled for the discogram and was just informed that it is not covered. SMFH. Now, I am going to pivot to the nerve block option but I'm not sure they can fit this in before year end. If not it will cost me easily an extra $1,000 since I'm already over my my max out of pocket this year.

Add another chapter in that book I could write. Dammit.
That sucks multiple species of loathsome creature for sure. However, dumb and nasty as insurers are, they know something about the value of procedures. Take it as a semi-informed vote against.
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Meanwhile, the women who danced to it as sexy young things are now old enough to be - and many are - somebody's Gram-ma.
a few years ago Blondie was in the news, I think she did some shows. I shouldn't have looked
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Originally Posted by genejockey View Post
3 votes for buying the Fulcrums, and no naysayers. I suspect if I asked on the C&V forum the answer would be different..... BUT despite its age, the Ritchey is not a C&V bike.
I built my own wheels once. I tend to like building/assembling stuff myself, but I don't need to do that ever again. Another vote for the Fulcrums, especially since the final result will be better.
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Maybe you could add a room for more bikes.
We have a finished garage - vinyl tile floor, dry wall, a real ceiling with insulation above, and two 20 amp circuits with numerous outlets along the walls*. It's where I keep, and work on my biked. The Younger Boy and I managed to convince Mrs. GeneJockey to clear her clutter out of it so he could use it for D&D nights with his buds, and I could use it for Zwifting. After a week or two, Mrs. GeneJockey noticed all that space, and said she wanted to use it and the big folding table 'temporarily' to sort and organize her clutter.

That was two months ago.

I no longer take my Zwifting set up down when not in use, lest my space disappear. At least the family now treats the bike storage area as sacrosanct. This is in part, I believe, because it's completely full of bikes.

*This was the one good thing I got out of wasting a year of my life trying to start a company with my crazy ex-boss, who I later learned was meth-addled.(He'd successfully started at least one company and was instrumental in another, so it wasn't obviously crazy)
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I agree with buying, but someone like seedsbelize will tell you that wheelbuilding is the way to go. Your choice.
I have nothing but the greatest respect for seedsbelize and his bicycle-related ideas, but I suspect he has never owned, much less beat the crap out of, a pair of high-quality, factory wheels. I used to build wheels back in the day too. Now it makes very little sense in my opinion.
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older than that. Disco died in the late 70's
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I have nothing but the greatest respect for seedsbelize and his bicycle-related ideas, but I suspect he has never owned, much less beat the crap out of, a pair of high-quality, factory wheels. I used to build wheels back in the day too. Now it makes very little sense in my opinion.
I feel the same way. That's why I bought my new wheels from PSIMET.
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I have nothing but the greatest respect for seedsbelize and his bicycle-related ideas, but I suspect he has never owned, much less beat the crap out of, a pair of high-quality, factory wheels. I used to build wheels back in the day too. Now it makes very little sense in my opinion.
Seeds already said 'Buy the Fulcrums', so it's unanimous so far.
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I feel the same way. That's why I bought my new wheels from PSIMET.
The custom wheelset I had built for the Battaglin went 5000 miles with me at my heaviest on them before they needed any truing at all, not to mention that I'm a rock and pothole magnet. I'll never be able to do that, and certainly not the first time.
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Seeds already said 'Buy the Fulcrums', so it's unanimous so far.
I told you he was smart.
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Wheelbuilding getting hammered.
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Wheelbuilding getting hammered.
Yep.
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Has wheelbuilding jumped the shark??
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I rode through the Tabernas Desert area of Almeria Provence in Andalucia, where a number of Spaghetti Westerns were filmed, including The Good, the Bad & the Ugly, I could not resist yelling “Blondie! You know what you are. You’re a….”
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Has wheelbuilding jumped the shark??
The replacement wheels for my Surly were hand-built. The front one needed a slight truing after the initial break in.
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Yep.
The diehards must be busy measuring spoke tensions right now.
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I missed it. What model Fulcrums are we talking about?

I’ve owned a few sets of Fulcrums and have been very happy.
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It's still alive here in some user's hearts.
<== Raises hand.

I still love classics from the 70s, 60s, and even 50s … like this timeless classic that’s been getting a lot of play accompanying a recent TV commercial …


One of the greatest songs of all time, 1959.
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