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Gaining 4mph Without Fitness

Old 07-30-19, 12:44 PM
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[Quote:] The "carbon bikes are lighter" idea needs to be more nuanced, I think. The latest 2020 Trek Domane models (specifically the mid-range SL5 and SL6) both weigh more than 20 lbs, thanks I suspect to their disc brakes. So... *some* carbon bikes are lighter but if low weight is what you want, don't assume carbon is the answer. [/Quote]


Originally Posted by WhyFi
Yeah, it's the discs. Never mind the IsoSpeed, front and rear, expanded frame clearance for 38mm tires, standard 32mm rubber and boat anchor wheels.

Huh, my 2017 Domane SL6 came in at 19.35lbs before the pedals went on...it did have carbon wheels...I guess the improvements for 2020 have added some heft. That said, my speeds are still well below the OP and the best way I'm going to get a lighter bike is to lose 10-20lbs of this excess donut, ice cream and cookie weight
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
You're right, nobody should ever disagree with anything.
It's not the disagreement. It's the nastiness. If you can't see that, there's no discussion to be had.
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Originally Posted by bruce19
It's not the disagreement. It's the nastiness. If you can't see that, there's no discussion to be had.

Hmmm.....maybe I'm just not the sensitive kind. I see a bunch of good natured joshing and recognition of the grand slam the OP hit but nothing nasty.

It's actually been a pretty tame response for the original claims made in my book.
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Originally Posted by bruce19
It's not the disagreement. It's the nastiness. If you can't see that, there's no discussion to be had.
The road bike forums is by far the nastiest on this website.


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Old 07-30-19, 01:24 PM
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OP calls other cyclists clowns and the responses are derided as nasty? Okay.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Ah, so fast bikes are only for the elite and the rest of us zhlubs need to train on our trashmos until we've earned vertical compliance and horizontal rigidity? That's positively un-American, you know.
Actually, the idea of the USA being an egalitarian society is no longer a viable concept. Have you seen how the 1% live?

I own some very nice bikes with very nice equipment attached to them. I would be the first one to admit, however, that both my C59 and C60 are WAYYYYYYYYYYY faster than me.

I own those bikes because they make me smile when I ride them, not to go faster.
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Old 07-30-19, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
Who wants to kick his ass?
I thought you did.
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Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia
Actually, the idea of the USA being an egalitarian society is no longer a viable concept. Have you seen how the 1% live?

I own some very nice bikes with very nice equipment attached to them. I would be the first one to admit, however, that both my C59 and C60 are WAYYYYYYYYYYY faster than me.

I own those bikes because they make me smile when I ride them, not to go faster.
I was hinting at freedom to consume, not egalitarianism and was having a bit of a troll, in any case. I am also pretty slow and have a nice bike.

And yes, I know about the 1%. First hand.
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Wasn't there a poster on SS/FG who claimed he could ride at 50mph+, on a FG with a 62/16 (or some such) without a lead car or fairing?

Can't recall the poster's online nick, but it went on for pages, and there were mixed for/against opinions about the braggadocio.

Oddly he never produced his Strava stats, a video of the event, or even pics of the bike.

The current OP also appears to have dropped his turd in the punch bowl and left.

I guess we've been dunked.

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Originally Posted by 69chevy
I'm dying. This is the funniest thing since that kid who'd dial up 400w.
HEY! He's a legend. Watch yourself.
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Originally Posted by seau grateau
OP calls other cyclists clowns and the responses are derided as nasty? Okay.
We are just peasants and as they say in France (I think) les paysans se révoltent
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Originally Posted by TimothyH
The road bike forums is by far the nastiest on this website.


-Tim-
I'm on a couple other bike forums and whenever BF comes up there is a discussion of the hostility of the people here. I don't think that's generally true but some responses get personal and, I think, that's obvious. One can debate or disagree without attacking people.
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Originally Posted by bruce19
Jesus. The guy posts up his step by step evolution and ascribes his gains (rightly or wrongly) to the changes and people want to kick his ass? I wonder why BF has the reputation it has?
We have a bad rep? Maybe *I* should get meaner.

Originally Posted by TimothyH
The road bike forums is by far the nastiest on this website.
Oh noes, may be time for another cleansing.
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Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia
I thought you did.
I’m a lover, not a fighter.
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Originally Posted by bruce19
I'm on a couple other bike forums and whenever BF comes up there is a discussion of the hostility of the people here. I don't think that's generally true but some responses get personal and, I think, that's obvious. One can debate or disagree without attacking people.
In all seriousness, I totally agree.
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Originally Posted by Debo3osu
My wife won’t even ride with me anymore because I’m miles ahead in a matter of minutes.
I probably shouldn't be telling you this, but she enjoys her rides with me.
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Originally Posted by seau grateau
OP calls other cyclists clowns and the responses are derided as nasty? Okay.
That's nothing to get all bent out of shape for.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
That's nothing to get all bent out of shape for.
I’m not seeing anyone get bent out of shape here.

The OP made some ridiculous claims, on his first post here. Classic sock-puppet behavior.

Most actual newbs to the forum, ease their way into things.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
Oh noes, may be time for another cleansing.
As I have said in a recent thread:

The 41 is a wide, deep and fertile pond for Trolling. Unfortunately the 41-pond is overstocked with an inedible invasive species, the Sock Puppet.

What little "hostility" I see here might just come from members getting fed up with the incessant Troll presence in the 41.
I know that part of the thankless efforts of the Mods goes to removing Socks from the pond as they are sure that they are not banning members with an "unusual or didactic" viewpoint by mistake.
That being said Mods, by all means "cleanse" away, but it's the Trolls not the riled BF members that are the source of "hostility": Ban the Socks.
And for (edit) myself, if something smells Trollish just click-away, don't feed the Trolls and/or hit that handy "Ignore" button.

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Originally Posted by bruce19
I'm on a couple other bike forums and whenever BF comes up there is a discussion of the hostility of the people here. I don't think that's generally true but some responses get personal and, I think, that's obvious. One can debate or disagree without attacking people.
I mentioned BF on a group ride and someone said, "There's a bunch of *******s at that website."

It is a core group, just a few people who are consistent in their behavior and it doesn't take someone calling people clowns to set them off. All it takes is a simple question or mistaken assumption and they immediately attack.

Bullies will always exist but the herd mentality is strong and some I've had respect for have joined the stampede.


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Let's have a little reality check here for those getting offended with the responses. Can you really believe the OP was serious when he end's his post with this?

"Now I blow by the clowns in the peloton with their dumb time trial bikes and helmets and matching jerseys. Yeah, my endurance bike just spit gravel in your face. My wife won’t even ride with me anymore because I’m miles ahead in a matter of minutes.

So there you have it. 3 years ago I’m a 40 year old golfer that thought biking was for losers, now I’m at the front of grand fondos.

Can’t afford all this stuff? Not my problem. Stop wasting time doing nonsense and do something with yourself so that you can buy nice things on a whim. Or just work on your fitness I guess."



I mean, come on really? Dude made a classic troll post and it's an awesome. Give him some credit for that.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
We have a bad rep? Maybe *I* should get meaner.
Unpossible.
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
I’m not seeing anyone get bent out of shape here.

The OP made some ridiculous claims, on his first post here. Classic sock-puppet behavior.

Most actual newbs to the forum, ease their way into things.
I totally agree, but it’s not a bannable offense. And there’s still the possibility he’s genuine, albeit a bit snarky.

My thing is, sooner or later he’ll cross the line and we’ll catch up to him. You guys do a fairly good job reporting offenses so his clock is ticking. Most trolls for attention can’t get enough, so it’s just a matter of time.

But let’s face it, you guys (not you, of course) feed the trolls all the time, it’s irresistible. Cause it’s fun and different. So long as they provide good material you guys will flock to it, no harm no foul.

Its the the guys who get nasty for no reason, that’s who riles me. An intriguing troll . . . meh.
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Originally Posted by bruce19
It's not the disagreement. It's the nastiness. If you can't see that, there's no discussion to be had.
Originally Posted by TimothyH
The road bike forums is by far the nastiest on this website.
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Originally Posted by bruce19
I'm on a couple other bike forums and whenever BF comes up there is a discussion of the hostility of the people here. I don't think that's generally true but some responses get personal and, I think, that's obvious. One can debate or disagree without attacking people.
Originally Posted by TimothyH
I mentioned BF on a group ride and someone said, "There's a bunch of *******s at that website."

It is a core group, just a few people who are consistent in their behavior and it doesn't take someone calling people clowns to set them off. All it takes is a simple question or mistaken assumption and they immediately attack.

Bullies will always exist but the herd mentality is strong and some I've had respect for have joined the stampede.
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See, these are the guys I’m interested in, the kind that give BF a bad name. Just push the red button to anonymously drop us a dime. They’ll straighten up or ship out. Poof.
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Originally Posted by Debo3osu
3 years ago I’m a 40 year old golfer that thought biking was for losers, now I’m at the front of grand fondos.

Can’t afford all this stuff? Not my problem. Stop wasting time doing nonsense and do something with yourself so that you can buy nice things on a whim. Or just work on your fitness I guess.
It's "gran fondo" with one "d"...no, wait; you're right. I just noticed a giant "D" at the front that I swear wasnt there 3 years ago.
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