Official BF Eroica California 2022 Roll Call! Apr. 29-May 1, 2022
02-07-22, 10:16 PM
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There's also the option of riding down to Cayucos, following the route up Old Creek Road, but then continuing on Old Creek Road rather than taking the turn up Santa Rita Road. You'll hit some steep but short(er) (and paved!) climbs to get up to Highway 46. From there, cross HWY 46 and continue on Santa Rosa Creek Road. You'll rejoin the route where Cypress Mountain Road comes in, and then continue back down to Cambria. I won't say it's easy, but it's far shorter and fewer overall miles than the other loops. You could go up to Piedras Blancas first, return to Cambria, head down to Cayucos, and then complete the mini-loop I described here.
For that matter, you can continue past Piedras Blancas a good little while before you hit the real climbs and twisty bits of Big Sur near Ragged Point, so you could add more flat-ish miles that way, too.
For that matter, you can continue past Piedras Blancas a good little while before you hit the real climbs and twisty bits of Big Sur near Ragged Point, so you could add more flat-ish miles that way, too.
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That's even better! Nice to have some options. 30 miles seemed too short, and 70 with lots of climbing too much. The gears on my vintage are, well vintage! I have rigged it so I will have a 34 - 28. I usually climb with a 34-32, on roads, and 38-42 on dirt. Hard to imagine in my youth, 39-26 was low enough for most centuries.
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I am hoping to ride this years Eroica CA and might be joined by my brother who needs to fly-in. We are torn between the Piedras Blancas and Santa Lucia Route. The Piedras Blancas Route seems too little of distance for us and we might end up regretting not taking the longer route. On the other hand, 6000ft of climbing on vintage bikes commands some respect and I am worried that we will not make it.
We are both not in bad shape and our gearing will be 42/26 on one bike and the other one will probably get a 42/28 with the Campagnolo SR derailleur. I expect that we need to push up some really steep sections.
How hard will be the Piedras Blancas Route and especially the hills? Any advise or experiences to share is appreciate. Thank you.
I am hoping to ride this years Eroica CA and might be joined by my brother who needs to fly-in. We are torn between the Piedras Blancas and Santa Lucia Route. The Piedras Blancas Route seems too little of distance for us and we might end up regretting not taking the longer route. On the other hand, 6000ft of climbing on vintage bikes commands some respect and I am worried that we will not make it.
We are both not in bad shape and our gearing will be 42/26 on one bike and the other one will probably get a 42/28 with the Campagnolo SR derailleur. I expect that we need to push up some really steep sections.
How hard will be the Piedras Blancas Route and especially the hills? Any advise or experiences to share is appreciate. Thank you.
02-08-22, 12:48 AM
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I can only speak to Piedras Blancas route, as I have ridden the coast road between Monterey and San Luis Obispo before. I would describe it as easy, with rolling hills, none of any great magnitude. More of concern is the wind which 90% of the time is out of the north, and typically building from morning to just past dusk. So make sure to reach the northern terminus before noon. Shouldn't be hard being only 15 miles, but if you add extra bits in for more miles, be time sensitive. In April, the spring wind can howl ( I live about 100 miles north in Santa Cruz). I'd rather face a hill any day over a strong headwind!
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There's also the option of riding down to Cayucos, following the route up Old Creek Road, but then continuing on Old Creek Road rather than taking the turn up Santa Rita Road. You'll hit some steep but short(er) (and paved!) climbs to get up to Highway 46. From there, cross HWY 46 and continue on Santa Rosa Creek Road. You'll rejoin the route where Cypress Mountain Road comes in, and then continue back down to Cambria. I won't say it's easy, but it's far shorter and fewer overall miles than the other loops. You could go up to Piedras Blancas first, return to Cambria, head down to Cayucos, and then complete the mini-loop I described here.
For that matter, you can continue past Piedras Blancas a good little while before you hit the real climbs and twisty bits of Big Sur near Ragged Point, so you could add more flat-ish miles that way, too.
For that matter, you can continue past Piedras Blancas a good little while before you hit the real climbs and twisty bits of Big Sur near Ragged Point, so you could add more flat-ish miles that way, too.
That's even better! Nice to have some options. 30 miles seemed too short, and 70 with lots of climbing too much. The gears on my vintage are, well vintage! I have rigged it so I will have a 34 - 28. I usually climb with a 34-32, on roads, and 38-42 on dirt. Hard to imagine in my youth, 39-26 was low enough for most centuries.
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02-08-22, 07:02 AM
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For those "worried" about how hard the Piedras Blancas route is, pretty much wherever you live and ride, can you do 36 miles? Any route with 36 miles? If the answer is yes, you'll make it just fine. It's pretty flat, there are wide shoulders, and the rush of riding with several hundred other riders on a drop dead gorgeous road in cool weather will push you past any fatigue from lack of training.
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From the Eroica site: "The beauty of fatigue and the thrill of conquest Eroica is more than a cycling event; it is a lifestyle. It’s what leads us to face our difficulties with tenacity and patience and appreciate times of struggle as a challenge gratefully accepted. Riding vintage bikes on gravel roads recalls the heroic cycling of Coppi and Bartali and recovers the core values of a great sport still able to fulfil the needs of today through the experience of fatigue in all its raw grandeur. More than just a challenge, Eroica also seeks to reawaken a taste for adventure, the unexpected and the journey. A way to relaunch cycling, create respect between riders and inspire new models for sports and life."
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I'd be willing to bet a paycheck that he was, since he was using the glued clips/straps and SPD pedals at the very first edition of Eroica CA.
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For those "worried" about how hard the Piedras Blancas route is, pretty much wherever you live and ride, can you do 36 miles? Any route with 36 miles? If the answer is yes, you'll make it just fine. It's pretty flat, there are wide shoulders, and the rush of riding with several hundred other riders on a drop dead gorgeous road in cool weather will push you past any fatigue from lack of training.
If you push on to the top of Ragged Point and turn around there, you add, I dunno, maybe 10 miles total, maybe less. You also add narrower shoulders (okay, pretty much no shoulders), one or two small climbs and one not insignificant but not killer climb to the turn-around at Ragged Point (and this from someone who is by no means a good or fast climber). As kabuki12 pointed out above, the hardest part of the official route is the climb up Hwy 1 back in Cambria with the payoff being a fun descent back into town on what used to be Hwy 1 BITD. The climb up to Ragged Point from the south is similar in terms of difficulty, much better in terms of pretty, and there are refreshments to be purchased at the top. (Trust me on that. There is an entire little development there whose sole purpose in life is to separate travelers from their money in exchange for food, drink, gas and/or lodging. gugie can back me up on this.)
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This.
If you push on to the top of Ragged Point and turn around there, you add, I dunno, maybe 10 miles total, maybe less. You also add narrower shoulders (okay, pretty much no shoulders), one or two small climbs and one not insignificant but not killer climb to the turn-around at Ragged Point (and this from someone who is by no means a good or fast climber). As kabuki12 pointed out above, the hardest part of the official route is the climb up Hwy 1 back in Cambria with the payoff being a fun descent back into town on what used to be Hwy 1 BITD. The climb up to Ragged Point from the south is similar in terms of difficulty, much better in terms of pretty, and there are refreshments to be purchased at the top. (Trust me on that. There is an entire little development there whose sole purpose in life is to separate travelers from their money in exchange for food, drink, gas and/or lodging. gugie can back me up on this.)
If you push on to the top of Ragged Point and turn around there, you add, I dunno, maybe 10 miles total, maybe less. You also add narrower shoulders (okay, pretty much no shoulders), one or two small climbs and one not insignificant but not killer climb to the turn-around at Ragged Point (and this from someone who is by no means a good or fast climber). As kabuki12 pointed out above, the hardest part of the official route is the climb up Hwy 1 back in Cambria with the payoff being a fun descent back into town on what used to be Hwy 1 BITD. The climb up to Ragged Point from the south is similar in terms of difficulty, much better in terms of pretty, and there are refreshments to be purchased at the top. (Trust me on that. There is an entire little development there whose sole purpose in life is to separate travelers from their money in exchange for food, drink, gas and/or lodging. gugie can back me up on this.)
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I have thought about the ride past the official turnaround to ragged point and would do it if the others were willing. The only thing is, because we start at a late time , getting back in time for that super lunch. I have gone there via automobile and dreamed about the ride to that spot. I even hiked down the cliff to the little secret beach at the base. The scenery is quite spectacular from Piedras Blancas to Ragged Point and would add that extra bit of challenge. Something to think about , Rich! My gearing is tall but I think I could handle the climbs with a 41/28 that is on my Colnago.
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I have thought about the ride past the official turnaround to ragged point and would do it if the others were willing. The only thing is, because we start at a late time , getting back in time for that super lunch. I have gone there via automobile and dreamed about the ride to that spot. I even hiked down the cliff to the little secret beach at the base. The scenery is quite spectacular from Piedras Blancas to Ragged Point and would add that extra bit of challenge. Something to think about , Rich! My gearing is tall but I think I could handle the climbs with a 41/28 that is on my Colnago.
"Fauxroica" last September opened up a lot of eyes to considering unofficial mods to the routes.
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Yes! The riding in that area is brilliant. If you're not starting in Cambria, but rather in Paso Robles / Templeton or Santa Margarita, there are tons of good options for additional routes.
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From the Eroica site: "The beauty of fatigue and the thrill of conquest Eroica is more than a cycling event; it is a lifestyle. It’s what leads us to face our difficulties with tenacity and patience and appreciate times of struggle as a challenge gratefully accepted. Riding vintage bikes on gravel roads recalls the heroic cycling of Coppi and Bartali and recovers the core values of a great sport still able to fulfil the needs of today through the experience of fatigue in all its raw grandeur. More than just a challenge, Eroica also seeks to reawaken a taste for adventure, the unexpected and the journey. A way to relaunch cycling, create respect between riders and inspire new models for sports and life."
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Lunch?
I would surely miss lunch if I ride one of the longer routes.... Every event I have done in the past, they have kept the post ride meal available for quite a long period of time, as everyone finishes at different times. Us slow pokes probably need it more than the guys who finish while averaging 20 miles per hour. I am more of 10-12 mph kinda guy....
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Re: "Super Lunch".
I have done the 70+ mile ride for several years now. The lunch at the barn is non-existent by the time I got there every year, well except for the soup one year. To relay a sense of my pace, I ride 5-6K miles, and climb about 500K ft, per year, I do Eroica at about 11 mph for the pure joy of the event. So, slow, no, not really, pretty average. This shortcoming of proper fueling for the riders of the Eroica CA really bugs me. I did Eroica Italy in 2006, no problem with the fueling there, quite the contrary! Anyway, on to solutions...I will be packing my fuel for Nova and Eroica 70+ milers this year.
I have done the 70+ mile ride for several years now. The lunch at the barn is non-existent by the time I got there every year, well except for the soup one year. To relay a sense of my pace, I ride 5-6K miles, and climb about 500K ft, per year, I do Eroica at about 11 mph for the pure joy of the event. So, slow, no, not really, pretty average. This shortcoming of proper fueling for the riders of the Eroica CA really bugs me. I did Eroica Italy in 2006, no problem with the fueling there, quite the contrary! Anyway, on to solutions...I will be packing my fuel for Nova and Eroica 70+ milers this year.
02-14-22, 12:51 PM
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Having not attended this event before, I read mention of the "Super Lunch" and have seen no mention of it on the Eroica California site. Is it true there is lunch after the ride? And when do they stop serving lunch?
I would surely miss lunch if I ride one of the longer routes.... Every event I have done in the past, they have kept the post ride meal available for quite a long period of time, as everyone finishes at different times. Us slow pokes probably need it more than the guys who finish while averaging 20 miles per hour. I am more of 10-12 mph kinda guy....
I would surely miss lunch if I ride one of the longer routes.... Every event I have done in the past, they have kept the post ride meal available for quite a long period of time, as everyone finishes at different times. Us slow pokes probably need it more than the guys who finish while averaging 20 miles per hour. I am more of 10-12 mph kinda guy....
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If you are doing the short ride , there is no problem . In 2019 , Rich and I had fun. We stopped and visited the Sea Elephants( what I call them) and did the full ride at a less than fast pace. We had a great lunch/supper put on by Linn's and they were serving long after we finished ours. The longer rides, I am not sure but I would suppose they have a cut off but I don't know when that would be. The rest stops aren't like they were in Paso Robles , sesame bars and water bottles with water at Cass Winery (wine tasting) , french fries and olive leaf ice tea , and french bread , bananas at Olea Farms , and that was the short ride!! Plenty of fuel and more challenging riding.
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Re: "Super Lunch".
I have done the 70+ mile ride for several years now. The lunch at the barn is non-existent by the time I got there every year, well except for the soup one year. To relay a sense of my pace, I ride 5-6K miles, and climb about 500K ft, per year, I do Eroica at about 11 mph for the pure joy of the event. So, slow, no, not really, pretty average. This shortcoming of proper fueling for the riders of the Eroica CA really bugs me. I did Eroica Italy in 2006, no problem with the fueling there, quite the contrary! Anyway, on to solutions...I will be packing my fuel for Nova and Eroica 70+ milers this year.
I have done the 70+ mile ride for several years now. The lunch at the barn is non-existent by the time I got there every year, well except for the soup one year. To relay a sense of my pace, I ride 5-6K miles, and climb about 500K ft, per year, I do Eroica at about 11 mph for the pure joy of the event. So, slow, no, not really, pretty average. This shortcoming of proper fueling for the riders of the Eroica CA really bugs me. I did Eroica Italy in 2006, no problem with the fueling there, quite the contrary! Anyway, on to solutions...I will be packing my fuel for Nova and Eroica 70+ milers this year.
02-14-22, 02:03 PM
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Can’t say I’ve ever eaten well during the Eroica rides. Food at Cayucos is pretty nice for a rest stop, but the others…meh.
Most of the food at the finish was gone when we arrived after the 82 mile ride.
The big pre-ride dinner and auction they used to do Saturday nights in Paso Robles in the first years were pretty good.
But not like Cino, by a long shot.
Most of the food at the finish was gone when we arrived after the 82 mile ride.
The big pre-ride dinner and auction they used to do Saturday nights in Paso Robles in the first years were pretty good.
But not like Cino, by a long shot.
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Pretty good tacos in Cambria one year when we started in Paso Robles. I'm contemplating a stash of IPA on the East side of the long ride so if that sounds good to you too, let me know.
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Heh, Too soon? May as well get started and set up a placeholder thread for the newly rescheduled Eroica California 2022. Let's hope health conditions improve markedly to allow the event and us riders to make this happen. It certainly gives us a lot more time (8 months) to prepare multiple bikes, drivetrains, legs, hearts, and lungs to tackle any route you choose. Plus I'm hoping many of you out there would be willing to support or help in some way (even just moral support) to make the event a success, either in preparation, planning, or execution during the event.
I know many of you have been disappointed multiple times, and treated rather poorly, I get that. Like a dysfunctional relationship, its hard to know if three times will be a charm, and certainly the definition of insanity "doing the same thing over and over and somehow expecting different results" will apply. Still, a lot of things were out of Eroica California's control, while most assuredly, much was in their control, at least from an event planner to event participant standpoint.
So hopefully, this thread can be somewhat optimistic looking forward, and we can share our revised schedule of plans, builds, training, parts swapping, and hopefully overall good health and well being. I hope all of you use any and all methods of health protections (that work) to avoid getting infected, hurt, or otherwise rendered unable to attend involuntarily. I know a few of you have been injured recently or had scheduling conflicts so maybe this extra time will allow you to heal and be possibly ready for the 2022 event, conditions willing. So much will depend on California and participants continuing to become safer public health wise.
I know many of you have been disappointed multiple times, and treated rather poorly, I get that. Like a dysfunctional relationship, its hard to know if three times will be a charm, and certainly the definition of insanity "doing the same thing over and over and somehow expecting different results" will apply. Still, a lot of things were out of Eroica California's control, while most assuredly, much was in their control, at least from an event planner to event participant standpoint.
So hopefully, this thread can be somewhat optimistic looking forward, and we can share our revised schedule of plans, builds, training, parts swapping, and hopefully overall good health and well being. I hope all of you use any and all methods of health protections (that work) to avoid getting infected, hurt, or otherwise rendered unable to attend involuntarily. I know a few of you have been injured recently or had scheduling conflicts so maybe this extra time will allow you to heal and be possibly ready for the 2022 event, conditions willing. So much will depend on California and participants continuing to become safer public health wise.
I’m hoping to ride the 2022 Piedro Blancas course, as I just took delivery of a vintage bike with 42F/24R low gear, and am not sure if I’m fit enough for any of the other courses. The short course looks pretty flat from the elevation graph on the Eroica.cc webpage. Can you confirm it’s a flat course?
Also, I’m not that confident that the 25mm Tufo Comtura Duo tires will make it thru the 1 mile of fire road in the course. Would I be allowed to mount Continental Gatorskins or some other modern puncture-resistant tire?
TIA.
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Sounds like an awesome idea! One problem for me though.... after just one beer, my motivation goes in the tank. It would quickly lead to two, and then a phone call to the Mrs to come pick me up after number 3! So I guess count me out.
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Hi mech986.
I’m hoping to ride the 2022 Piedro Blancas course, as I just took delivery of a vintage bike with 42F/24R low gear, and am not sure if I’m fit enough for any of the other courses. The short course looks pretty flat from the elevation graph on the Eroica.cc webpage. Can you confirm it’s a flat course?
Also, I’m not that confident that the 25mm Tufo Comtura Duo tires will make it thru the 1 mile of fire road in the course. Would I be allowed to mount Continental Gatorskins or some other modern puncture-resistant tire?
TIA.
I’m hoping to ride the 2022 Piedro Blancas course, as I just took delivery of a vintage bike with 42F/24R low gear, and am not sure if I’m fit enough for any of the other courses. The short course looks pretty flat from the elevation graph on the Eroica.cc webpage. Can you confirm it’s a flat course?
Also, I’m not that confident that the 25mm Tufo Comtura Duo tires will make it thru the 1 mile of fire road in the course. Would I be allowed to mount Continental Gatorskins or some other modern puncture-resistant tire?
TIA.
The dirt road into the lighthouse is no big deal. I know nothing about Tufo Contura Duo tires or how fragile they are, but the 25mm width will be no problemo in and of itself - I had 700x25 Conti 4000s in 2019 and it was no big deal. If you want to swap out for Gatorskins, no one, but no one, is going to care. The worst you might get is a little good-natured teasing about blackwall tires generally. But as long as you are running a steel frame of pretty much any age (or a period-appropriate aluminum or titanium frame) with friction shifting and are not running dual-pivot brakes, clipless pedals or deep-section rims with 16 spokes, you will be accepted as one of the tribe with nary a second glance.
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