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Old 02-08-22, 10:02 AM
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No hubs to be found; Also, Velo-Orange Hubs worth the money?

I've recently learned that I picked the wrong time to look into picking up a new rear hub to upgrade my old ride. Did Shimano just shut down and not tell me? There's even a dearth on the electronic bay dot coms machine. If anyone has a line on a mid-level shimano rear hub, 130mm, 36h 11-speed capable and silver, please let me know. I see you can get these from Velo-Orange, but, man, they're spendy. I know precious little about them. They're pretty, but are they worth the money?
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hubs in general seem to be order and wait. White industries has a 12 week order to receive time period as an example. I am looking at some hope hubs, but order and then the vendor orders so don't know a time frame yet
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Combination of silver, 36 hole and 11 speed = very hard to find at the best of times.
You might do better with 32 hole than 36, and a matte finish than silver.
Just built up a set of 32 hole 6800 Ultegra hubs in silver (not polished) finish on wider Mavic A319 rims for the Davidson tourer. Work great, look great, but had to snag those hubs as soon as I saw them.
No opinion on the VO stuff, sorry.
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I purchased a rear "no tools disassembly" hi/lo (High flange/Low flange) when they were blowing them out for $50 a few years ago, so that was a good deal. I see the same model in low flange is $165 now. I've been happy with it so far. Maybe not $165 happy...

A quick perusal of the interwebs shows that you need to convert your bike to disc brakes and settle for black.
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My most recent wheel build (Shimano compatible) used Bitex RAF/RAR-12 hubs. A nice option if you can do with 32 holes or less (oops just saw the 36-hole note). Come in silver too...
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I was also going to recommend Bitex, but that’s likely 32-hole.

Actually, looks like ProWheelbuilder has Shimano 105 in 36-hole:

https://www.prowheelbuilder.com/shim...-rear-hub.html

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Originally Posted by rccardr
Combination of silver, 36 hole and 11 speed = very hard to find at the best of times.
You might do better with 32 hole than 36, and a matte finish than silver.
Just built up a set of 32 hole 6800 Ultegra hubs in silver (not polished) finish on wider Mavic A319 rims for the Davidson tourer. Work great, look great, but had to snag those hubs as soon as I saw them.
No opinion on the VO stuff, sorry.
Yeah, I know I'm looking for a unicorn. but I thought I'd try to get out of this cheaper by swapping the hub into my existing rim and not resort to buying a new rim too. May not be able to, tho.
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I was also going to recommend Bitex, but that’s likely 32-hole.

Actually, looks like ProWheelbuilder has Shimano 105 in 36-hole:

https://www.prowheelbuilder.com/shim...-rear-hub.html
Whoa! Nice catch, dude. Thank you!
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Originally Posted by nlerner
I was also going to recommend Bitex, but that’s likely 32-hole.

Actually, looks like ProWheelbuilder has Shimano 105 in 36-hole:

https://www.prowheelbuilder.com/shim...-rear-hub.html
My favorite hub to build! And 105 is every bit as good as Ultegra -they share the same replacement bearings, races, free hub...
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Also, Velo-Orange Hubs worth the money?

Depends how many $7 Starbucks you have to give up.
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I've been using a lathe to polish ano off of black hubs, but never have gone so far as to remove disc mounts, mainly because I think I may be forced into using disc brakes at some point, and I would rather have my wheels at least somewhat futureproof in that regard. The centerlock disc mounts don't look so horrible, especially if you get the little rubber cover for them.
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Trying to remember the Japanese component maker that has made hubs for years - not Nitto, not DiaCompe, sorry but I am at a loss but this company still is in business making high quality cassette hubs. They made hubs for SunTour & Specialized. There were some (an NOS front rear set) of said brand on eBay for under $100.
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Originally Posted by nlerner
I was also going to recommend Bitex, but that’s likely 32-hole.

Actually, looks like ProWheelbuilder has Shimano 105 in 36-hole:

https://www.prowheelbuilder.com/shim...-rear-hub.html
Those do look nice but are not 11 speed.
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I mean those 105 hubs are kinda silver. You're probably not going to do much better except for VO, which are quality parts I might add.
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Originally Posted by masi61
Those do look nice but are not 11 speed.
The "driver type" pull down seems to indicate that they are unless "Road 11spd" means something else:

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Those are 1000% 11s.
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Originally Posted by masi61
Trying to remember the Japanese component maker that has made hubs for years - not Nitto, not DiaCompe, sorry but I am at a loss but this company still is in business making high quality cassette hubs. They made hubs for SunTour & Specialized. There were some (an NOS front rear set) of said brand on eBay for under $100.
Suzue? They do make cassette hubs now, but I can't imagine finding a set for 100.
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Originally Posted by shoota
I mean those 105 hubs are kinda silver. You're probably not going to do much better except for VO, which are quality parts I might add.
You're right. The 105s aren't as pretty as I'd like, but those VOs are twice the price. Also this hub is going to be laced to a 30-year-old Ritchey rim, so maybe I should be a little more reasonable.

But for future reference, what's your experience been with VO hubs, if you would?
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Originally Posted by eyemkeith
You're right. The 105s aren't as pretty as I'd like, but those VOs are twice the price. Also this hub is going to be laced to a 30-year-old Ritchey rim, so maybe I should be a little more reasonable.

But for future reference, what's your experience been with VO hubs, if you would?
I don't have any personal experience with their hubs, but everything else I've seen VO as been really nice, and their hubs have good reviews.

They might be twice the price but if you get a hub with difference dimensions you'll have to get new spokes. Maybe if the VO hub is the correct fit you can reuse your existing spokes. Maybe, maybe not, with either hub, just food for thought.
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Originally Posted by masi61
Trying to remember the Japanese component maker that has made hubs for years - not Nitto, not DiaCompe, sorry but I am at a loss but this company still is in business making high quality cassette hubs. They made hubs for SunTour & Specialized. There were some (an NOS front rear set) of said brand on eBay for under $100.
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Originally Posted by jPrichard10
Suzue? They do make cassette hubs now, but I can't imagine finding a set for 100.
Thank you, yes Suzue. That low price was from an individual with a NOS set.
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Originally Posted by nlerner
The "driver type" pull down seems to indicate that they are unless "Road 11spd" means something else:

Originally Posted by shoota
Those are 1000% 11s.
Sorry, my bad. I saw the 8,9,10 but stopped reading before I got to “11”.
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Originally Posted by eyemkeith
You're right. The 105s aren't as pretty as I'd like, but those VOs are twice the price. Also this hub is going to be laced to a 30-year-old Ritchey rim, so maybe I should be a little more reasonable.

But for future reference, what's your experience been with VO hubs, if you would?
Gotta ask: is the rim super good? not much wear? with the time and expense of building a wheel, do you want to consider a new rim?
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Not silver, but.........in the same ballpark.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/23429178946...MAAOSwGkJhlUEo
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Originally Posted by squirtdad
Gotta ask: is the rim super good? not much wear? with the time and expense of building a wheel, do you want to consider a new rim?
That’s a good point. I don’t know, honestly. I know where I want to end up, and have a serious miserly streak but lack the skills to do this myself. Now that I say it out loud, a new hub in an old rim sounds dumb. Is that the way it normally goes —new hub, new rim?
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