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Some times
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I was thinking that I'd need *great* bibs for a ride like that - whenever I go out for long-ish rides with... let's say, more casual cycling friends, my ass always ends up getting sore because (I assume) I've got less weight on the pedals and more in the saddle.
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I'm not telling you that you're wrong about being comfortable in cotton. I'm telling you that your experiences with polyester don't match mine nor those of anyone that I've known that's worn a good quality jersey. Comfort is subjective, but the fact that my jerseys breathe and wick really, really well is not subjective - that I can sweat out liters and pull off a dry, salt-crusted jersey is a testament to that.
OK, I'm just not sure I'd find that's true for me if I went on a prolonged hunt for my perfect polyester.
Fabric doesn't "breathe" by the way. That's a metaphor.
Cotton wicks like crazy--that's why it gets wet. I don't know when this term came to mean its opposite.
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I'm not telling you that you're wrong about being comfortable in cotton. I'm telling you that your experiences with polyester don't match mine nor those of anyone that I've known that's worn a good quality jersey. Comfort is subjective, but the fact that my jerseys breathe and wick really, really well is not subjective - that I can sweat out liters and pull off a dry, salt-crusted jersey is a testament to that.
Merino wool is pretty good though and has the advantage of not stinking when sweaty. But the really thin summer Merino tends to disintegrate after a few washes, so I only use mid-weight Merino for Spring/Autumn rides.
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Sweat wicking is by far and away my number one priority in cycling gear and cotton is the very last thing on earth I would wear on the bike for that reason alone. I love cotton OFF the bike, but not a chance I'd go out for a hard ride with a cotton T-shirt. Might as well just throw it in a bucket of water before putting it on.
Merino wool is pretty good though and has the advantage of not stinking when sweaty. But the really thin summer Merino tends to disintegrate after a few washes, so I only use mid-weight Merino for Spring/Autumn rides.
Merino wool is pretty good though and has the advantage of not stinking when sweaty. But the really thin summer Merino tends to disintegrate after a few washes, so I only use mid-weight Merino for Spring/Autumn rides.
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Honestly, I think a lot of comfort is really determined by what we're used to, and that affects how we actually perceive and interpret what these sensations "mean". Also, people really do vary a lot in how they sweat and, my guess is also in the chemical composition of their sweat, so that we really might be experiencing different reactions between fabric and sweat.
I'm not a high-volume sweater, nor is my sweat especially toxic. There have been times recently where I have worn a cotton t-shirt while riding my stationary trainer (with a fan blowing on me). I definitely notice that I'm warmer than when I wear a close-fitting synthetic.
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I know what you mean, but I think it's just because nothing else hurts more on an easy ride. You tend not to think much about your ass when your legs are screaming and your lungs burning. When cruising along you tend to notice more niggles that you would normally filter out as low priority.
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That may be true if you are riding in serious heat where your sodden wet cotton would cool you down. But it doesn't work so well when you are riding hard in a cooler climate where it leads to serious problems when you are on a descent. You don't see pros wearing cotton do you?
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I think the fabric issue is more dependent on the humidity level in the location you are at.
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I deleted the quote in an unsuccessful effort to avoid yet another of your endless demands for attention. Now find another target for your adolescent rants.
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I want to know where I can win an $80 jersey in a bike race while averaging 110 W.
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Apologies if I missed responding directly to any of your other posts.
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I presume you're referring to comfort here because a lot of people do not like the wet sensation you get with cotton.
I actually prefer cotton to polyester because the sweat gets cooled by the airflow when it's wicked into the cotton as opposed to pooling under the polyester. Comfort really isn't a scientific, objective concept. Unless you're talking about things that are actually causing you harm (I'm objectively uncomfortable wearing latex because I will itch and develop a rash, for example), it's more like a preference for one sensation over another.
I actually prefer cotton to polyester because the sweat gets cooled by the airflow when it's wicked into the cotton as opposed to pooling under the polyester. Comfort really isn't a scientific, objective concept. Unless you're talking about things that are actually causing you harm (I'm objectively uncomfortable wearing latex because I will itch and develop a rash, for example), it's more like a preference for one sensation over another.
If you feel like moisture "pools" under polyester, that might be a function of your jersey's fabric and/or fit. Some textiles are better at wicking away moisture, and a tighter fit allows for faster transfer of moisture from the skin. A couple of my fave summer jerseys are made by Assos, and they have a sort of honeycomb inner surface which aids wicking...And they are a tight race fit.
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For me it's when you get into more extreme situations when the top quality gear really comes into its own. Like when you are climbing for hours on end in blistering heat or getting drenched by rain. Pottering along at 110W it probably doesn't matter so much what jersey you are wearing providing you have a half reasonable pair of bibs. But I'd still rather have a couple of really nice quality jerseys over a dozen cheap generic ones. They always wash better. Perhaps ironically I wear a lot of generic cheap junk off the bike and it tends to fall to pieces quite quickly with wear and tear.
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Wow, I never realized some many cyclist were soooooo insecure, LOL! I mean really, does this kind of silliness really matter to some of you?
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That may be true if you are riding in serious heat where your sodden wet cotton would cool you down. But it doesn't work so well when you are riding hard in a cooler climate where it leads to serious problems when you are on a descent. You don't see pros wearing cotton do you?
Are pros dressing primarily for comfort? BTW, I don't get this comment. Riding hard in a cooler climate in a cooler climate, I don't sweat so much as riding hard in a hot one. The cotton really doesn't get sodden in those conditions.
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Threads like this make me wonder if there are threads on SwimForums.Net call "Do you wear a swimsuit when you swim?" And half the responses are "No, I always swim in generic gym shorts. I wouldn't want anyone to think I was some Michael Phelps poser!"
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Valid points.
I'm not a high-volume sweater, nor is my sweat especially toxic. There have been times recently where I have worn a cotton t-shirt while riding my stationary trainer (with a fan blowing on me). I definitely notice that I'm warmer than when I wear a close-fitting synthetic.
I'm not a high-volume sweater, nor is my sweat especially toxic. There have been times recently where I have worn a cotton t-shirt while riding my stationary trainer (with a fan blowing on me). I definitely notice that I'm warmer than when I wear a close-fitting synthetic.
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I especially like the Bergrisar Jerseys. Well made, comfortable, not arm stranglingly tight, and breath well. Have 3 of them
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