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Old 03-01-22, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
Pottering along at 110W it probably doesn't matter so much what jersey you are wearing providing you have a half reasonable pair of bibs.
I was thinking that I'd need *great* bibs for a ride like that - whenever I go out for long-ish rides with... let's say, more casual cycling friends, my ass always ends up getting sore because (I assume) I've got less weight on the pedals and more in the saddle.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
I'm not telling you that you're wrong about being comfortable in cotton. I'm telling you that your experiences with polyester don't match mine nor those of anyone that I've known that's worn a good quality jersey. Comfort is subjective, but the fact that my jerseys breathe and wick really, really well is not subjective - that I can sweat out liters and pull off a dry, salt-crusted jersey is a testament to that.

OK, I'm just not sure I'd find that's true for me if I went on a prolonged hunt for my perfect polyester.

Fabric doesn't "breathe" by the way. That's a metaphor.

Cotton wicks like crazy--that's why it gets wet. I don't know when this term came to mean its opposite.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
I'm not telling you that you're wrong about being comfortable in cotton. I'm telling you that your experiences with polyester don't match mine nor those of anyone that I've known that's worn a good quality jersey. Comfort is subjective, but the fact that my jerseys breathe and wick really, really well is not subjective - that I can sweat out liters and pull off a dry, salt-crusted jersey is a testament to that.
Sweat wicking is by far and away my number one priority in cycling gear and cotton is the very last thing on earth I would wear on the bike for that reason alone. I love cotton OFF the bike, but not a chance I'd go out for a hard ride with a cotton T-shirt. Might as well just throw it in a bucket of water before putting it on.

Merino wool is pretty good though and has the advantage of not stinking when sweaty. But the really thin summer Merino tends to disintegrate after a few washes, so I only use mid-weight Merino for Spring/Autumn rides.
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
Sweat wicking is by far and away my number one priority in cycling gear and cotton is the very last thing on earth I would wear on the bike for that reason alone. I love cotton OFF the bike, but not a chance I'd go out for a hard ride with a cotton T-shirt. Might as well just throw it in a bucket of water before putting it on.

Merino wool is pretty good though and has the advantage of not stinking when sweaty. But the really thin summer Merino tends to disintegrate after a few washes, so I only use mid-weight Merino for Spring/Autumn rides.
for me sweat wicking clothing is hotter than 100% cotton
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
Honestly, I think a lot of comfort is really determined by what we're used to, and that affects how we actually perceive and interpret what these sensations "mean". Also, people really do vary a lot in how they sweat and, my guess is also in the chemical composition of their sweat, so that we really might be experiencing different reactions between fabric and sweat.
Valid points.

I'm not a high-volume sweater, nor is my sweat especially toxic. There have been times recently where I have worn a cotton t-shirt while riding my stationary trainer (with a fan blowing on me). I definitely notice that I'm warmer than when I wear a close-fitting synthetic.
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Originally Posted by coffeesnob
for me sweat wicking clothing is hotter than 100% cotton
I have found the opposite to be true.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
Fabric doesn't "breathe" by the way. That's a metaphor.
Pssssh - I can see its lungs moving.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
I was thinking that I'd need *great* bibs for a ride like that - whenever I go out for long-ish rides with... let's say, more casual cycling friends, my ass always ends up getting sore because (I assume) I've got less weight on the pedals and more in the saddle.
I know what you mean, but I think it's just because nothing else hurts more on an easy ride. You tend not to think much about your ass when your legs are screaming and your lungs burning. When cruising along you tend to notice more niggles that you would normally filter out as low priority.
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Originally Posted by coffeesnob
for me sweat wicking clothing is hotter than 100% cotton
That may be true if you are riding in serious heat where your sodden wet cotton would cool you down. But it doesn't work so well when you are riding hard in a cooler climate where it leads to serious problems when you are on a descent. You don't see pros wearing cotton do you?
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Originally Posted by Eric F
I have found the opposite to be true.
Probably true for most people but not me.
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I think the fabric issue is more dependent on the humidity level in the location you are at.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
BTW, I know you originally quoted me when you posted it, so spare me the nonsense about how I'm being the tedious one. You've posted several "corrections" of me that aren't actually correcting anything.
I deleted the quote in an unsuccessful effort to avoid yet another of your endless demands for attention. Now find another target for your adolescent rants.
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Old 03-01-22, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by prj71
You mean days like this in the saddle that I do with my $20 jersey?





As I mentioned...I have the $80 variety jerseys that I've won from bike races. Really no difference than the $20 jerseys I've bought.
I want to know where I can win an $80 jersey in a bike race while averaging 110 W.
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Originally Posted by downhillmaster
It’s so awesome that you are still ignoring my OP and are still so worked up about my posts 👍
Oh, I'm sorry. I wasn't trying to ignore you.

Originally Posted by downhillmaster
Nobody is wearing a basketball or football jersey and trying to claim they are doing so for aero or tech benefits
This makes no sense to me. Logos/Team apparel have nothing to do with aero or tech. Another poster already pointed this out, and I didn't want to pile on.

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I'm sorry. Who knew you were completely unaware that many recreational cyclists state that they wear certain jerseys/kit partially because they fit better and don't flap in the breeze like t-shirts supposedly do
This also makes no sense to me. No one buys logo/team apparel because they think it's more aero than non-logo/team apparel. Cycling clothing is definitely more aero than a t-shirt, but I have no idea why you'd bring that up in the context of pro team logos. Another poster already pointed this out as well, and piling on doesn't seem helpful so I didn't respond.

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Why is it not surprising that a forum chock full of 50+ year old recreational cyclists wearing and hand washing their matching spandex overalls would have a few peeps unhappy about being called out for posing?
Calling out cyclists on a cycling forum for wearing cycling clothing is a weird take, but I also don't really see anything here that's relevant to the topic of this thread, other than you calling people poseurs. I get that you don't care what other people wear, but also think if they wear any cycling clothing of any kind (regardless of logos) they're poseurs.

Apologies if I missed responding directly to any of your other posts.
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Originally Posted by Koyote
Cotton is the worst possible material for athletic apparel -- especially cycling jerseys. And that's got nothing to do with aerodynamics.
Originally Posted by livedarklions
I presume you're referring to comfort here because a lot of people do not like the wet sensation you get with cotton.
I actually prefer cotton to polyester because the sweat gets cooled by the airflow when it's wicked into the cotton as opposed to pooling under the polyester. Comfort really isn't a scientific, objective concept. Unless you're talking about things that are actually causing you harm (I'm objectively uncomfortable wearing latex because I will itch and develop a rash, for example), it's more like a preference for one sensation over another.
I get you. Most people's objection to cotton is that it holds moisture and sticks to your skin...But that actually does lead to some evaporative cooling; with polyesters, you don't get that effect because they just pull the moisture away from your skin and out to the fabric's surface, where it eventually evaporates.

If you feel like moisture "pools" under polyester, that might be a function of your jersey's fabric and/or fit. Some textiles are better at wicking away moisture, and a tighter fit allows for faster transfer of moisture from the skin. A couple of my fave summer jerseys are made by Assos, and they have a sort of honeycomb inner surface which aids wicking...And they are a tight race fit.
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Originally Posted by caloso
Maybe you could share a link for these amazing $20 jerseys. People might be interested in purchasing them.
https://www.amazon.com/Spotti-Basics...s%2C274&sr=8-5

https://www.amazon.com/Cycling-Mount...8-7&th=1&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/BERGRISAR-Cyc...8-9&th=1&psc=1
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
For me it's when you get into more extreme situations when the top quality gear really comes into its own. Like when you are climbing for hours on end in blistering heat or getting drenched by rain. Pottering along at 110W it probably doesn't matter so much what jersey you are wearing providing you have a half reasonable pair of bibs. But I'd still rather have a couple of really nice quality jerseys over a dozen cheap generic ones. They always wash better. Perhaps ironically I wear a lot of generic cheap junk off the bike and it tends to fall to pieces quite quickly with wear and tear.
I don't have a power meter on my bike. That's a Strava calculation, so who knows if it's even correct.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
I want to know where I can win an $80 jersey in a bike race while averaging 110 W.
I have three that I won from mountain bike racing.

I don't have a power meter. That's a Strava calculation. I don't think it's correct.
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Originally Posted by prj71
I have three that I won from mountain bike racing.

I don't have a power meter. That's a Strava calculation. I don't think it's correct.
Okay, got it.

Where did you find such a flat century route? Presumably not in Wisconsin?
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Wow, I never realized some many cyclist were soooooo insecure, LOL! I mean really, does this kind of silliness really matter to some of you?
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
That may be true if you are riding in serious heat where your sodden wet cotton would cool you down. But it doesn't work so well when you are riding hard in a cooler climate where it leads to serious problems when you are on a descent. You don't see pros wearing cotton do you?

Are pros dressing primarily for comfort? BTW, I don't get this comment. Riding hard in a cooler climate in a cooler climate, I don't sweat so much as riding hard in a hot one. The cotton really doesn't get sodden in those conditions.
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Originally Posted by Rolla
I deleted the quote in an unsuccessful effort to avoid yet another of your endless demands for attention. Now find another target for your adolescent rants.
I'd get whatever ingrown thing that gives you such a delightful personality looked at if I were you. Might be a rash from your cycling uniform.
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Threads like this make me wonder if there are threads on SwimForums.Net call "Do you wear a swimsuit when you swim?" And half the responses are "No, I always swim in generic gym shorts. I wouldn't want anyone to think I was some Michael Phelps poser!"
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Originally Posted by Eric F
Valid points.

I'm not a high-volume sweater, nor is my sweat especially toxic. There have been times recently where I have worn a cotton t-shirt while riding my stationary trainer (with a fan blowing on me). I definitely notice that I'm warmer than when I wear a close-fitting synthetic.
I find this totally shocking! You actually wear a shirt on a trainer?
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I especially like the Bergrisar Jerseys. Well made, comfortable, not arm stranglingly tight, and breath well. Have 3 of them
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