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CX is coming - tire choices

Old 07-15-21, 01:28 PM
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CX is coming - tire choices

Any suggestions for a 35-38mm tubeless tire with a good all-around tread that could be used for all CX conditions? Preference for tan sidewalls.

I was about to buy a set of Donnely PDX WC's that I found on-sale, but now wondering if I should try something a little bit wider. My series doesn't care about tire width, and I have 33mm tires already (Vittoria Terreno Mix) if needed. I've run tubular PDX's and Challenge Baby Limus in the past and liked 'em, but am all-in on Tubeless now so wondering what other options might be out there.

I see Rene Herse Steilacoom TC Standard or Extralight and they look good, but are a bit expensive. It seems like most other tires I find in the 35-38mm size range have more of a gravel tread and might be great for dry, but probably wouldn't work very well in mud/wet CX race conditions.

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I had a pair of MXPs (the non-tubeless version). Good all around tire, but don't know about the tubeless version.
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Ritchey has some wider cyclocross options, I ran a set of shields for awhile in the 35mm width and liked them but only used them in dry conditions

https://us.ritcheylogic.com/us_en/cyclocross-bike/tires
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Originally Posted by caloso
I had a pair of MXPs (the non-tubeless version). Good all around tire, but don't know about the tubeless version.
Concur. I have ran MXP tubed clinchers in the past as a general gravel/training tire. The tread is a good all-around option, but I think they are limited to 33mm.
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Originally Posted by msu2001la
Concur. I have ran MXP tubed clinchers in the past as a general gravel/training tire. The tread is a good all-around option, but I think they are limited to 33mm.
You're right, I was thinking there was a wider version, but I was confusing them with another tire.
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Originally Posted by redlude97
Ritchey has some wider cyclocross options, I ran a set of shields for awhile in the 35mm width and liked them but only used them in dry conditions

https://us.ritcheylogic.com/us_en/cyclocross-bike/tires
Thanks! The Megabite looks like a good option for me. I was googling reviews and also ran across the WTB Cross Boss, which is 35mm and get a similarly good reivew. It has the added benefit of tan sidewalls.
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Anyther option might be the rene herse steilacoom https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop...38-steilacoom/ I think that is what Jan runs when he races around here
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We're in the middle of a drought and things are going to be super dry and mostly hardpack around here. I have Gravel King SK already mounted on my gravel wheelset, I think I'm just going keep on with those to start the season.
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i usually start the season on gravel MSO's as well, they have a bit more corning bite than SKs but that may/may not be needed depending on your area
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Depends on the conditions of the course on the day the race is. IMO.
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FWIW the Donnelly tubeless tires set up pretty wide on most rims. True width 35 or 36 mm, probably. I like the PDX - that’s a good all-rounder. Baby Limus is now available tubeless, by the way. That’s my favorite all-round tubular and I like the slightly lower tread profile versus the PDX but I also do t have any experience with the Challenge’s tubeless tires yet.
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Originally Posted by redlude97
Anyther option might be the rene herse steilacoom https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop...38-steilacoom/ I think that is what Jan runs when he races around here
I'm very intrigued by these tires, but the price... ouchy. I feel like I read on BF in another thread that Rene Herse tires needed some kind of special sealant that was causing issues? Maybe that it couldn't be added through the valve? Anyone here know anything about that?
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Originally Posted by msu2001la
I'm very intrigued by these tires, but the price... ouchy. I feel like I read on BF in another thread that Rene Herse tires needed some kind of special sealant that was causing issues? Maybe that it couldn't be added through the valve? Anyone here know anything about that?
The sidewalls are very thin even for the tubeless versions. I have an older set when they were Compass and they continue to seep after 3 years, but its not really an issue as it takes days to lose air, and they are worth it for the suppleness. Panaracer has their own sealant now that people say works better but I'm sticking to orange seal just because I've had good luck with it across the board on various brand tires. Its as close to the feeling of tubulars as you are going to get, but I'm unsure about the tread design and don't always buy the hype that rene herse has about his design choices, I use the slicks for all road
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Originally Posted by redlude97
i usually start the season on gravel MSO's as well, they have a bit more corning bite than SKs but that may/may not be needed depending on your area
MSOs are great. I did have an issue with one that I could never get to mount straight. I think it was a manufacturing defect, but it still sealed. Solved the problem by putting it on the back wheel so I didn't have to look at it.
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Originally Posted by caloso
MSOs are great. I did have an issue with one that I could never get to mount straight. I think it was a manufacturing defect, but it still sealed. Solved the problem by putting it on the back wheel so I didn't have to look at it.
If you email them they will send you a new one, I had the same issue on a pair
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Originally Posted by redlude97
If you email them they will send you a new one, I had the same issue on a pair
Awesome. Thanks!
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Anyther option might be the rene herse steilacoom https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop...38-steilacoom/ I think that is what Jan runs when he races around here
I'm very intrigued by these tires, but the price... ouchy. I feel like I read on BF in another thread that Rene Herse tires needed some kind of special sealant that was causing issues? Maybe that it couldn't be added through the valve? Anyone here know anything about that?
The sidewalls are very thin even for the tubeless versions. I have an older set when they were Compass and they continue to seep after 3 years, but its not really an issue as it takes days to lose air, and they are worth it for the suppleness. Panaracer has their own sealant now that people say works better but I'm sticking to orange seal just because I've had good luck with it across the board on various brand tires. Its as close to the feeling of tubulars as you are going to get, but I'm unsure about the tread design and don't always buy the hype that rene herse has about his design choices, I use the slicks for all road
A friend of mine likes the Steilacooms so much that now he rides that bike for everything. He might even take it on RAGBRAI this year.
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I've always used Maxxis Rambler tires. Very fast, very light, great traction, low rolling resistance. Couldn't ask for more (unless its muddy). They do clear mud well for short patches of mud.
They are available in your size - 38mm. (and 40, and 45, and 50)

Given all the short bursts of acceleration, I try to avoid tires that weigh over 1lb each. The ramblers (at ~384 gram) are lighter than many CX specific tires.
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Donnelly MXPs are great in loose and dry conditions, and at 120 TPI, they're super compliant.
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