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Lugged 930 . . .

https://newyork.craigslist.org/que/b...123965387.html

RiddleOfSteel

Maybe I should buy it (via facilitator). It is my size after all.....

sheddle

Who wants a Viscount Aerospace with the original fork?

https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/b...124148230.html

Viscount Aerospace GP Death Fork - $395 (Port Angeles)

This is a classic, Made in England 1975 Lambert/Viscount Aerospace GP racing road bike. Widely considered a revolutionary bike in the 1970s with a lightweight internally brazed chromoly steel frame - unlike traditional lugged construction steel frames of the era, it has a smooth, clean appearance. Very unique components (some specific to the Aerospace models) and this one still has the cast aluminum fork infamously known as the "death fork" as some examples tended to fracture. A recall was issued by Yamaha (who later purchased the brand) in the late 1970s to replace the "death fork" with a standard steel unit, but this one remains intact with the original fork making it a very rare collectable.


This bike as a collectable display "show piece". Because of the manufacturers recall I am selling bicycle for collectible display only.

The bike was just professionally refurbished to a high standard, tuned, detailed. The frame paint has been polished out to a like-new luster, components removed and cleaned in an ultrasonic cleaner and rebuilt for the reconditioning work. Over 12 hours of labor spent on getting the bike ready.

Brand new parts:
• Kenda K35 27 x 1 1/4" dark mesh gumwall tires (for period correct appearance)• Kenda schraeder valve inner tubes
• rubber rim strips
• brake cables and housings
• shifter cables and housings
• handlebar tape

Unique Aerospace Pro-specific TA three piece cranks, pedals, alloy stem and seat post. Shimano Titlist rear derailleur and Thunder Bird front derailleur with matching Shimano down tube shifters. Lambert/Viscount center pull brake set, Birmalux aluminum wheels with large flange hubs / quick release levers. Nicely aged and broken in leather saddle.

Measurements:
60cm (from the center of the crank to the top of the seat tube)
60.5cm (center-to-center)
60.5cm (top tube center-to-center)
33.5" (top tube stand over height

Last ride 76 

You're not going to find one in that condition for less money... if it is in "that" condition. I've got a perfect set of wheels for it, nudge,nudge...wink, wink. Though rumor at the time had it that Colnago had some "torch" issues for a couple of years after Rossin left. But mostly forgotten and possibly not true. Kinda like the Carlsbad Masi rumors BITD. Better/Worse, fake, junk, Great....pick a day, and pick a source, totally different answers.

Me, I'd jump on it in my size, at the price.

Last ride 76 

WTF??? I paid twice that for mine 4 years ago and I stole it. Every time I try to sell it, I take it for a spin and say "nope, not sellin". 🤦 Between this bike and the Colnago, seems like there's a rumor that all the roads in the US are covered in Covid-19 and won't ever be rideable again. Ever.

Last ride 76 

Somebody shoot me... I can't stand this thread today. this was the last straw.🤦

Last ride 76 

All kidding aside, I would love this triple triangle bit of insanity!

tyler_fred

That head tube angle is off the charts steep...
like hors categorie steep!!

phtomita

Redline Conquest Cyclocross Bikes - $110 (Green Lake)
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/b...124208913.html

RiddleOfSteel

It is quite steep. I'd put it anywhere from 74-75° or so. Pretty "normal" for period Italian frames of this size (and racy geometry), or at least so I've seen.

Bianchigirll 

This is worth buying just for the YUGE roll of rim tape!!

liquid_liquid 

I've learned so much from reading through comments on this site. Now my first post...

I can see that the head tube angle is steep. But how does that actually affect the ride? How would this feel compared to the geometry on a Colnago today?

tyler_fred

Being a tall fellow like yourself, steep head tube angles, at times, seem to be the norm. For me, I have trouble with the aesthetics of a stem angling downwards. Looks janky, drives me nuts. That’s probably why I lean towards the 80s Tenax Schwinns with relaxed head tube angles. I like a stem to be parallel to the ground.

RiddleOfSteel

I have the same thought. 73° Cinelli stems and 72° Nitto stems don't play ball with steep HT angles unless it's a traditional drop bar setup with the drops parallel to the ground. That, to me, is a consistent visual gesture. If I run a Nitto or Specialized or any other 26.0mm clamp 72° stem with Soma Highway One-type compact bars, it 100% looks wrong. Looks like I smashed the stem and bars down where the meet (makes a shallow "V"). Never going to set a bike up like that. I had a Guerciotti like that. Gorgeous frame, but really felt like it should have Campagnolo on it (SR was standard) instead of very nice Dura-Ace.

Late-'80s performance Schwinns are very consistently 73° HT angles. Only around 1989/1990 did the Paramount bump to a steeper HT. So that's nice.

My solution to the 73.5° and steeper HT angles is, depending on the bike, a quill stem adapter and a -6° to -8° 1 1/8" stem. For all the pitchfork-toters, the word "depending" is key. '70s Colnago? Not happening unless I'm veeeerrrry selective about the stem. And even then. Late '80s Davidson Impulse with straight gloss white paint and simple graphics? It has one right now. And Di2. Looks the business. Rides the business, too.

I think we can confine this issue to race/crit bikes as few, if any, tourers have steep HT angles. And since race/crit bikes are speed weapons, I think there's a little flexibility in how they can be outfitted.

thumpism 

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...41070266771318

PilotFishBob 

Just one pic, drive side at least. $500 - If I lived in the Reno area...

https://reno.craigslist.org/bik/d/sp...124150138.html

RiddleOfSteel

There are a number of things that affect the ride and handling of a bike, and head tube angle is certainly one of them. Fork rake (or "offset"), with its resulting trail, play a big role. 56mm of trail (you'll have to look these terms up, or "bicycle geometry" up as it is a lot to explain) is what is considered 'neutral' handling--a nice blend of responsiveness and stability. Longer trail and the bike feels like it's on a rail. Shorter trail, and it's a quicker steer. Some classic touring bikes have almost no trail and handle very nicely.

You'd have to look up modern Colnago's today, though I would think they are well within the norm. 73-74° HT angle, 56mm or so of trail. ....looked up the new C64, which is mega hot, and a "65cm" equivalent is right inside those numbers. Now I want one. If only I could convince myself to spend that much on a frameset....eh, my Impulse is essentially perfect. Nevermind.

Digger Goreman

Auction on Shopgoodwill.com

jetboy 

yes - that is a beauty. (change the wheelset)

CroManganMan

I really like this. Looks barely ridden. Looks like a '77, which is my birth year too. I'm guessing it's a 24" frame? I need that for my 35” inseam but the top tube looks 24" too and that's too long. I'm only 5'10", or I used to be, so long top tubes used to be a problem. I'm looking to get back into riding and I'm more flexible now. I'd jump on this and try it out if I still lived in Durham. Now I'm 2 and a half hours further away these days and I'm not sure it's worth driving for.

CroManganMan

I messaged the seller today, but I was too late- someone was already on their way. I saw the listing here too late!

phtomita

TOURING BIKE MIYATA 1000 - 19.5" - $500 (OLYMPIA-BOSTON HARBOR)
https://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/b...124171079.html

Piff 

Wow. I have never seen a 1000 that short.

Chr0m0ly 

The frames are the same in each category, Road frames, crit frames, and ST frames. The difference is components, yes, but also fork steel. High end got Tange Chromo, mid tier Mangalloy, and some years the entry level got hi-ten.

Lemond1985

Vintage Focus Steel Road bike - $220

https://fresno.craigslist.org/bik/d/...118086632.html

Wish someone would buy this, it's been up for months, and every time i see the ad, I get this song stuck in my head the rest of the day.