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Well, I found this at a local swap meet. I have always wanted a rod braked bike, now I have one. Hub says '74 AW. I haven't ridden it until I get the bearings checked out, but everything seems to work. One question though. The person I purchased it from has 700c tires on it. They seem to fit, but they don't look right. What is this supposed to have? Oh, I paid $120 for it if you are interested. Hope I did ok at that.
I'm impressed that Raleigh continued to make these bikes for as long as they did.
I have a 1978.
The labour to assemble the various brake components on the DL-1 has to be 2-3 times
more than caliper brakes yet, priced lower than a Superbe.
I can only imagine that the tooling had already paid for itself years ago and there
were a few "older" workers that could assemble them quickly.
The placement and relationship of these little parts is quite a challenge..(for me)
$91.95 in 1973 works out to $542.00 (CDN) in today's money or
$410.00 (US)
Your saddle looks to be in good shape as well.
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Copake Auction was last Saturday. A guy with a couple hundred dollars and a keen eye for 3-speeds could have done well.
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Copake Auction was last Saturday. A guy with a couple hundred dollars and a keen eye for 3-speeds could have done well.
https://bikeshedva.blogspot.com/2019...9-utility.html
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Copake Auction was last Saturday. A guy with a couple hundred dollars and a keen eye for 3-speeds could have done well.
https://bikeshedva.blogspot.com/2019...9-utility.html
https://bikeshedva.blogspot.com/2019...9-utility.html
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Good evening!
First off, thank you to all who responded. Greatly appreciated!
Well I got a chance to look a little closer at the tires on the Tourist(/DL 1(?)), And the fella selling the bike must have been mistaken, as the tire clearly shows 40-635 / 28x11/2. I could have saved everyone the question if I had simply looked. Sorry about that. I was just excited to find this bike to really care about tire size specifics. These tires are Kendas, and the tread is noticeably narrower than the width of the rim. Is there a tire available that better looks like it goes with these rims, or is that just the nature of these style of rims? As I progress to the rebuilding of this bike, I would like to A): relocate the rear fender stay to the axle where it belongs, B): adjust the rear fender/rear wheel so that they look better centered than they do. And C): overhaul all bearings and associated equipment to check for wear and adjustments as necessary. Not necessarily in that order..... Are there any special items I need to know concerning this bike?
Thank you in advance!
First off, thank you to all who responded. Greatly appreciated!
Well I got a chance to look a little closer at the tires on the Tourist(/DL 1(?)), And the fella selling the bike must have been mistaken, as the tire clearly shows 40-635 / 28x11/2. I could have saved everyone the question if I had simply looked. Sorry about that. I was just excited to find this bike to really care about tire size specifics. These tires are Kendas, and the tread is noticeably narrower than the width of the rim. Is there a tire available that better looks like it goes with these rims, or is that just the nature of these style of rims? As I progress to the rebuilding of this bike, I would like to A): relocate the rear fender stay to the axle where it belongs, B): adjust the rear fender/rear wheel so that they look better centered than they do. And C): overhaul all bearings and associated equipment to check for wear and adjustments as necessary. Not necessarily in that order..... Are there any special items I need to know concerning this bike?
Thank you in advance!
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Crappy pix and no details but there's a Phillips in there somewhere. Might be worth a call if you're looking.
https://richmond.craigslist.org/bik/...860536569.html
bicycle frame material: other/unknown
bicycle type: other
frame size: 26"
wheel size: 26 in
ANTIQUE 50,s PHILLIPS, SCHWINN, 50,s
3 other
all need work, tires, cleaning
CALL-- show contact info --JEFF
https://richmond.craigslist.org/bik/...860536569.html
BICYCLES - $40 (MIDLOTHIAN)
bicycle frame material: other/unknown
bicycle type: other
frame size: 26"
wheel size: 26 in
ANTIQUE 50,s PHILLIPS, SCHWINN, 50,s
3 other
all need work, tires, cleaning
CALL-- show contact info --JEFF
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Good evening!
First off, thank you to all who responded. Greatly appreciated!
Well I got a chance to look a little closer at the tires on the Tourist(/DL 1(?)), And the fella selling the bike must have been mistaken, as the tire clearly shows 40-635 / 28x11/2. I could have saved everyone the question if I had simply looked. Sorry about that. I was just excited to find this bike to really care about tire size specifics. These tires are Kendas, and the tread is noticeably narrower than the width of the rim. Is there a tire available that better looks like it goes with these rims, or is that just the nature of these style of rims? As I progress to the rebuilding of this bike, I would like to A): relocate the rear fender stay to the axle where it belongs, B): adjust the rear fender/rear wheel so that they look better centered than they do. And C): overhaul all bearings and associated equipment to check for wear and adjustments as necessary. Not necessarily in that order..... Are there any special items I need to know concerning this bike?
Thank you in advance!
First off, thank you to all who responded. Greatly appreciated!
Well I got a chance to look a little closer at the tires on the Tourist(/DL 1(?)), And the fella selling the bike must have been mistaken, as the tire clearly shows 40-635 / 28x11/2. I could have saved everyone the question if I had simply looked. Sorry about that. I was just excited to find this bike to really care about tire size specifics. These tires are Kendas, and the tread is noticeably narrower than the width of the rim. Is there a tire available that better looks like it goes with these rims, or is that just the nature of these style of rims? As I progress to the rebuilding of this bike, I would like to A): relocate the rear fender stay to the axle where it belongs, B): adjust the rear fender/rear wheel so that they look better centered than they do. And C): overhaul all bearings and associated equipment to check for wear and adjustments as necessary. Not necessarily in that order..... Are there any special items I need to know concerning this bike?
Thank you in advance!
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Good evening!
First off, thank you to all who responded. Greatly appreciated!
Well I got a chance to look a little closer at the tires on the Tourist(/DL 1(?)), And the fella selling the bike must have been mistaken, as the tire clearly shows 40-635 / 28x11/2. I could have saved everyone the question if I had simply looked. Sorry about that. I was just excited to find this bike to really care about tire size specifics. These tires are Kendas, and the tread is noticeably narrower than the width of the rim. Is there a tire available that better looks like it goes with these rims, or is that just the nature of these style of rims? As I progress to the rebuilding of this bike, I would like to A): relocate the rear fender stay to the axle where it belongs, B): adjust the rear fender/rear wheel so that they look better centered than they do. And C): overhaul all bearings and associated equipment to check for wear and adjustments as necessary. Not necessarily in that order..... Are there any special items I need to know concerning this bike?
Thank you in advance!
First off, thank you to all who responded. Greatly appreciated!
Well I got a chance to look a little closer at the tires on the Tourist(/DL 1(?)), And the fella selling the bike must have been mistaken, as the tire clearly shows 40-635 / 28x11/2. I could have saved everyone the question if I had simply looked. Sorry about that. I was just excited to find this bike to really care about tire size specifics. These tires are Kendas, and the tread is noticeably narrower than the width of the rim. Is there a tire available that better looks like it goes with these rims, or is that just the nature of these style of rims? As I progress to the rebuilding of this bike, I would like to A): relocate the rear fender stay to the axle where it belongs, B): adjust the rear fender/rear wheel so that they look better centered than they do. And C): overhaul all bearings and associated equipment to check for wear and adjustments as necessary. Not necessarily in that order..... Are there any special items I need to know concerning this bike?
Thank you in advance!
You'll need a new chain as well. Yes, service the bearings. If the hub is working properly, leave it alone other than a cleaning and oiling.
Rubbing the chrome with tin foil and water is a good rust remover/polish.
And don't throw anything out!
You can't go to the hardware store for a new axle nut.
Please post photos of your progress.
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Very true! don't throw anything away! Especially the original brake pad holders. Miles and miles back in this thread there was a discussion about rod brake set up. I learned a lot form the more experienced rod brake users. You can get reasonable performance from these brakes, but there's some technique involved. Since you may want to replace the old hardened pads soon, I'll tell you now not to get new Fibrax pads that come complete with the pad holders. You will do much better with the Kool Stop inserts. You drive the old pads out of the original holders with a punch and press in the new inserts. The Kool Stops are curved to match the rim, the Fibrax are not. Only the ends of the pads contact the rim. I suppose you're expected to ride the bike until they conform to the rim radius or shape them yourself, but I think it's ridiculous. The performance is terrible. Don't waste your money, use the Kool Stop inserts.
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Here in Toronto
1965 CCM Continental 3 speed
A little pricey @ $300.00 but it's quite complete and a dynohub in the hub.
Hubba hubba.
1965 CCM Continental 3 speed
A little pricey @ $300.00 but it's quite complete and a dynohub in the hub.
Hubba hubba.
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Mine didn't and I don't...but, technically mine isn't a DL-1, since it pre-dates that model number and is most likely a Model 21 Tourist. My bike has 44x18 gearing that is, as far as I know, original.
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I do suggest one of the modern "puncture resistant" tires for these bikes. Simply since it's such a bear to remove the rear wheel. I have Continental Tour Rides on mine. One other thing. These came with a 16T cog on the AW hub. For me at least, that's insanely tall even with the 46T chainring. I use a 22T cog on mine. In fact, I'm pretty sure every other DL-1 rider I know from this thread gears their bikes down from the original 16T cog.
The recent mistake I made with the "28x1 1/2" rabbit hole"
on the 3 speed Royal Nord has left me with 2 new Vredestein Active Tour 2.0 Puncture Resistant 40-635 tires and a new Schwalbe Marathon I don't have any use for. Tires are a pain to ship so I will try to sell to an Ontario colleague who might have trouble finding them. I second the Kool stops as well.
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Copake Auction was last Saturday. A guy with a couple hundred dollars and a keen eye for 3-speeds could have done well.
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Yeah, much older bike. Raleigh didn't export many rod brake models to the U.S. after the war. The DL-1 didn't appear in US catalogs until 1970 and only in 24" gents and 22" ladies frame sizes for the first few years. By 1970, Raleigh changed all the roadsters from 48T to 46T chainrings, so the DL-1s in the US have 46Tx 16T gearing. I don't know why they chose the 16T cog for these bikes. I can't comfortably ride these bikes geared that tall.
I have a pot in the kitchen that I've had since 1977
when I moved out of my parents house and they
gave me a bunch of old household items.
I really like this pot.
It's a great pot for soup or rice or Beefaroni.
It heats up twice as fast as any new pot.
It's the perfect size, the handle stays cool.
If you're boiling water, the lid will clang and rattle as an alert.
Recently, I managed to burn it and was quite angry
with myself.
I found a replacement at the thrift shop and looked at
the stamp on the bottom
Revere Ware.....
Interesting.
We all know about Paul Revere's famous ride but
what did he do for a living?
He was a silversmith and made, amongst other things,
pots and pans...
"After Revere's death, the family business was taken over by his oldest surviving son, Joseph Warren Revere.[107] The copper works founded in 1801 continues today as the Revere Copper Company, with manufacturing divisions in Rome, New York and New Bedford, Massachusetts"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Revere
I've since found a smaller one in the trash and am keeping
my eyes open for the big pot.
Tune in to PBS Sundays at 3:30 am for my
new call in show...
Pot Talk
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Let me try and get some posted. I even have the assembly instructions that came with the pair of Sports we ride. Something special about the way they handle. It’s a very relaxed ride.
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The Schwinn Sports Tourer is another bike that is renowned for its nice ride.
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A BIG Thank you to forum member Clubman who shipped
2 nice Dunlop 28" rims and 2 NOS tires!
I'd take a photo but someone got into my car the other night
and stole my camera, and my credit card!
no harm done as the computer algorithms shut it
down after one small ($11.00) purchase.
I guess the computer knows I don't use my card
for 24 hour convenience store purchases.....
Finally, something good a computer did for me.
2 nice Dunlop 28" rims and 2 NOS tires!
I'd take a photo but someone got into my car the other night
and stole my camera, and my credit card!
no harm done as the computer algorithms shut it
down after one small ($11.00) purchase.
I guess the computer knows I don't use my card
for 24 hour convenience store purchases.....
Finally, something good a computer did for me.
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OT, but somewhat relevant...
I have a pot in the kitchen that I've had since 1977
when I moved out of my parents house and they
gave me a bunch of old household items.
I really like this pot.
It's a great pot for soup or rice or Beefaroni.
It heats up twice as fast as any new pot.
It's the perfect size, the handle stays cool.
If you're boiling water, the lid will clang and rattle as an alert.
Recently, I managed to burn it and was quite angry
with myself.
I found a replacement at the thrift shop and looked at
the stamp on the bottom
Revere Ware.....
Interesting.
We all know about Paul Revere's famous ride but
what did he do for a living?
He was a silversmith and made, amongst other things,
pots and pans...
"After Revere's death, the family business was taken over by his oldest surviving son, Joseph Warren Revere.[107] The copper works founded in 1801 continues today as the Revere Copper Company, with manufacturing divisions in Rome, New York and New Bedford, Massachusetts"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Revere
I've since found a smaller one in the trash and am keeping
my eyes open for the big pot.
Tune in to PBS Sundays at 3:30 am for my
new call in show...
Pot Talk
I have a pot in the kitchen that I've had since 1977
when I moved out of my parents house and they
gave me a bunch of old household items.
I really like this pot.
It's a great pot for soup or rice or Beefaroni.
It heats up twice as fast as any new pot.
It's the perfect size, the handle stays cool.
If you're boiling water, the lid will clang and rattle as an alert.
Recently, I managed to burn it and was quite angry
with myself.
I found a replacement at the thrift shop and looked at
the stamp on the bottom
Revere Ware.....
Interesting.
We all know about Paul Revere's famous ride but
what did he do for a living?
He was a silversmith and made, amongst other things,
pots and pans...
"After Revere's death, the family business was taken over by his oldest surviving son, Joseph Warren Revere.[107] The copper works founded in 1801 continues today as the Revere Copper Company, with manufacturing divisions in Rome, New York and New Bedford, Massachusetts"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Revere
I've since found a smaller one in the trash and am keeping
my eyes open for the big pot.
Tune in to PBS Sundays at 3:30 am for my
new call in show...
Pot Talk
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