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Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

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Old 12-22-23, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
My exciting morning…
Ugh. Sorry.
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Originally Posted by datlas
I wonder if Velo Vol is planning something special for his 50k post.
A tribute to his old neighbor would be appropriate.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
My god. What’s your TTE?

And here’s a question I’ve been meaning to ask you (or anyone else): What do you do the day after a big leg resistance workout?
Normal ride if outside, z2 inside
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Originally Posted by datlas
Baker’s cyst?
Hard to tell what's going on with it like this.

For a glorious few days last week it was almost back to normal dimensions. Now:


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Originally Posted by jadmt
I have a badger that lives behind the house. this little guy showed up at my buddy's house. badgers are pretty common here.
The one I saw was scampering through a field toward the road and ended up crossing about 30" in front of me. He was kicking up dust as he ran and disappeared over a little knoll. Being a city boy, I wasn't sure what I had seen, but I had a good idea. The state was repaving the highway east of the pass, and there were two flaggers at the summit. I described what I had seen, and they confirmed my suspicion.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
From the "It's Not Easy Being Velo Vol" files . . .

Recall that I had a knee aspiration/injection last week.

Already swelling in the area I had the shot has returned.

But also, I'm feeling discomfort/stiffness in the area "behind" my knee, which is quite unusual.

Has anyone ever had an issue, here? If so, what was the cause? I don't know what's going on.


Pseudo gout.
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Originally Posted by phrantic09
Normal ride if outside, z2 inside
That's been my approach too, but I wonder how much stress isn't captured by the performance management chart. I recently upped the weight work and made some gains, but the last two weeks have been pretty awful on the bike. I read somewhere, Friel or someone, that leg day should be simply substituted for high intensity intervals.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Hard to tell what's going on with it like this.

For a glorious few days last week it was almost back to normal dimensions. Now:


Abnormal. Next...
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
That's been my approach too, but I wonder how much stress isn't captured by the performance management chart. I recently upped the weight work and made some gains, but the last two weeks have been pretty awful on the bike.
I’ve been doing it so long, I have no idea if it’s actually hurting performance. Do heavy leg work on Wednesday mornings, over 200 lb deadlifts and squats, RDLs with some circuit training thrown in. Weight usually goes up every 3-6 months
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
I did go to a party last night. At the door they had a "hat" where you could drop a bill with your name on it and they drew so the winner got all the money.

The guy says, "You can put a $1 bill or $5 bill or whatever you want."

Why would anyone put use more than $1?
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Old 12-22-23, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by rjones28

HA. that’s exactly what I was thinking.
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Originally Posted by phrantic09
I’ve been doing it so long, I have no idea if it’s actually hurting performance. Do heavy leg work on Wednesday mornings, over 200 lb deadlifts and squats, RDLs with some circuit training thrown in. Weight usually goes up every 3-6 months
Impressive.

I am at about 1.1 x body weight for squats and 1.2 for deads and do that once a week, all low reps to maximize the load on the ancient bones. My other day is mainly upper body, but I do some higher rep split squats to remind the legs they suck. I was stuck at the same weight all summer because all the riding must have been interfering with the resistance gains and I just couldn't get into positive energy balance. I figure now's my chance to shift the balance a bit, but it's been painful. My body weight is only up about a kg since summer, despite the strength gains, which is also discouraging.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Impressive.

I am at about 1.1 x body weight for squats and 1.2 for deads and do that once a week, all low reps to maximize the load on the ancient bones. My other day is mainly upper body, but I do some higher rep split squats to remind the legs they suck. I was stuck at the same weight all summer because all the riding must have been interfering with the resistance gains and I just couldn't get into positive energy balance. I figure now's my chance to shift the balance a bit, but it's been painful. My body weight is only up about a kg since summer, which is also discouraging.
my dead lifts are 1.25, squats are 1.2.

how much protein are you eating? I’m eating 45% of my cals from protein as a goal, which is 225-280g depending on the day
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
he took his first step today, and I missed it.
Just think of the first one you see as his first.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
I did go to a party last night. At the door they had a "hat" where you could drop a bill with your name on it and they drew so the winner got all the money.

The guy says, "You can put a $1 bill or $5 bill or whatever you want."

Why would anyone put use more than $1?
So everybody doesn’t know you’re a cheap sob during this time of giving?
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Originally Posted by phrantic09
my dead lifts are 1.25, squats are 1.2.

how much protein are you eating? I’m eating 45% of my cals from protein as a goal, which is 225-280g depending on the day
I'm targeting about 1.5 g/kg/day and getting it most of the time. I suspect I need more calories across the board or to lay off the endurance some. Neither of these things is easy for me.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
So everybody doesn’t know you’re a cheap sob during this time of giving?
Would you pay $5 for a $1 lotto ticket so the cashier didn't think you were a cheap sob?
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Would you pay $5 for a $1 lotto ticket so the cashier didn't think you were a cheap sob?
The lotto is not a party for friends. Would you give your church $10 when tickets to the holiday event are only $5?
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dang you guys are crazy with your fully loaded deads and squats. do you look like this?

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Originally Posted by TMonk
At 100% yeesh. I could not stomach that regularly. Previous bf user gsteinb would regularly post about doing 3x20's at 100% on an old school dumb trainer... pure torture. Even on a smart trainer I wouldn't do that regularly, I can't hang
Yes indeed. I did more than a few of these on icy days, Outside was palatable, if I can consider that word in regard to these.

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I also see 3 ish hours at 70% FTP more regularly indoors than outdoors. It's too hilly around here and there is too much city to ride through before it opens up. Even then, it's a lot of up and down most places. So the intensity, or NP/AP is high. Hard to keep it steady.
I'm lucky where I am and I can get to wide open spaces fairly quickly. These are not a good thing on any trainer, but I can swing 2-3 hours.
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I miss doing the Olympic lifts though tbh. I think the risk/reward is too high for me. Maybe if I got into it slowly and with a coach for good form. The long femurs make the deads especially difficult to do correctly. Those were my favorite.

My weekly leg strength routine involves dumbell lunges, dumbell platform step-ups, and then a bunch of lighter banded stuff. It's mostly to keep my glutes activated and knees aligned to prevent knee issues when cycling. I find the stair step "step down" particularly useful. I can feel the glute and VMO muscle engage while I focus on keeping the tracking straight. I think that simple exercise can be highly useful for cyclists who get knee problems.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
I had what I think was that very same model BITD. Carried it with me for 3 long tours, then managed to lose it not long after that. That corkscrew saw a lot of action.
That tiny loop is for the lanyard that fastens it to your person. I have lost countless SAKs, simply for failing to take my own advice. I found one on the Appalachia Trail.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
My god. What’s your TTE?

And here’s a question I’ve been meaning to ask you (or anyone else): What do you do the day after a big leg resistance workout?
That week I lifted Tuesday AM Squats, Deads and Lunges, then did 3x20 SS that night. Thursday was the same on weights, then 3x10' 40/20" 125% The night before was 3x10 10/20" whatever I could hold. Saturday was weight in the AM again At that time I was going heavier with 5, 3, 1 90, 95, 100% on the weights. As said, after a 3 week block, I was in my own little world and ready for the rest week.

TTE? I'm unfamiliar with that.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
My exciting morning…

That doesn't look fun.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Would you pay $5 for a $1 lotto ticket so the cashier didn't think you were a cheap sob?
totally different. somebody (hopefully a friend) or at least somone you probably know is going to win the pot so why not make it worthwhile......
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