For the love of English 3 speeds...
04-28-17, 02:48 PM
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 1,541
Bikes: Bianchi Volpe, ANT 3-speed roadster, New Albion Privateer singlespeed, Raleigh One Way singlespeed, Raleigh Professional "retro roadie" rebuild, 198? Fuji(?) franken-5-speed, 1937 Raleigh Tourist, 1952 Raleigh Sports, 1966 Raleigh Sports step-through
Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 248 Post(s)
Liked 27 Times
in
18 Posts
04-28-17, 07:15 PM
Senior Member
Why is it we love and revive these quirky 3-speeds. I finished putting my Raleigh Twenty back together - mostly rear fender, rack, chain guard. I got new anti rotation washers and indicator pin and it shifts like a champ now.
I noticed I actually enjoyed re-adjusting the hub and noticed great satisfaction when I got it just right. Yet these things have Whitworth threading and all sorts of other esoteric idiosyncrasies.
Question: when I pedal the left pedal spindle feels crooked or something. I replaced the cotters with ones from The Gentleman Cyclist ? Site and didn't file them. If one cotter is at a different angle would my pedal feel crooked?
I noticed I actually enjoyed re-adjusting the hub and noticed great satisfaction when I got it just right. Yet these things have Whitworth threading and all sorts of other esoteric idiosyncrasies.
Question: when I pedal the left pedal spindle feels crooked or something. I replaced the cotters with ones from The Gentleman Cyclist ? Site and didn't file them. If one cotter is at a different angle would my pedal feel crooked?
04-28-17, 07:20 PM
Senior Member
So angles should be the same. Maybe one is in farther than the other?
04-28-17, 08:24 PM
Phyllo-buster
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 8,847
Bikes: roadsters, club bikes, fixed and classic
Mentioned: 133 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2298 Post(s)
Liked 2,055 Times
in
1,255 Posts
Usually it's a pedal spindle or some kind of crank arm distortion.Swap in another known good pair of pedals. Still bad? Look at crank arms and pedal drillings. Lastly, revisit cotter install. Sometimes the cotter goes in with a slight rotation and yet appears to be seated right. Pull them and try again, even rotate sides.
04-28-17, 08:39 PM
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 3,240
Mentioned: 103 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1299 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 103 Times
in
85 Posts
Usually it's a pedal spindle or some kind of crank arm distortion.Swap in another known good pair of pedals. Still bad? Look at crank arms and pedal drillings. Lastly, revisit cotter install. Sometimes the cotter goes in with a slight rotation and yet appears to be seated right. Pull them and try again, even rotate sides.
Last edited by BigChief; 04-28-17 at 08:42 PM.
04-28-17, 09:05 PM
Senior Member
Those are some great ideas! I'll try them all. This was my $60 trashed R20, so who knows? Good as new now....except for pedal..
04-29-17, 06:57 AM
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,572
Bikes: 1971 Hercules, 1978 Raleigh Superbe, 1978 Raleigh Tourist, 1964 Glider 3 Speed, 1967 Raleigh Sprite 5 Speed, 1968 Hercules AMF 3 Speed, 1972 Raleigh Superbe, 1976 Raleigh Superbe, 1957 Flying Pigeon, 1967 Dunelt 3 Speed
Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1028 Post(s)
Liked 444 Times
in
288 Posts
Raleigh
Here's a very clean Coffee Sports that I'm hoping to have a look at today. reasonable price.
04-30-17, 05:54 AM
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Ontario
Posts: 2,648
Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 478 Post(s)
Liked 634 Times
in
336 Posts
@Velocivixen: also check that the pedal in question is threaded on straight. If someone had cross threaded a pedal in the past you might have picked up the wrong set of threads. Easiest check is whether the base of the pedal spindle is even against the crank when fully tight. Had this problem on my old CCM and I have to be very careful to get the pedal threads started correctly.
04-30-17, 06:27 AM
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,572
Bikes: 1971 Hercules, 1978 Raleigh Superbe, 1978 Raleigh Tourist, 1964 Glider 3 Speed, 1967 Raleigh Sprite 5 Speed, 1968 Hercules AMF 3 Speed, 1972 Raleigh Superbe, 1976 Raleigh Superbe, 1957 Flying Pigeon, 1967 Dunelt 3 Speed
Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1028 Post(s)
Liked 444 Times
in
288 Posts
OT My "Scorcher"
I learned from another site that it's polite to preface an Off Topic post with "OT".
My Bitsa Scorcher.
The Black Bomber
-Raleigh 10 speed frame (free)
-Swapped out Raleigh 3 speed bottom bracket
-Painted flat black
-Rear hub is a Bayliss Wiley single speed coaster brake laced to a 28" British Westrick rim
-Front wheel is a 28" Canadian rim (different tire size)
-Inverted bars with a scavenged Raleigh front caliper brake for saftey
-Saddle is a leather Wrights
-new chain and tires
Good info on Bayliss Wiley:
https://www.ebykr.com/2007/11/03/bayl...tent-presence/
My Bitsa Scorcher.
The Black Bomber
-Raleigh 10 speed frame (free)
-Swapped out Raleigh 3 speed bottom bracket
-Painted flat black
-Rear hub is a Bayliss Wiley single speed coaster brake laced to a 28" British Westrick rim
-Front wheel is a 28" Canadian rim (different tire size)
-Inverted bars with a scavenged Raleigh front caliper brake for saftey
-Saddle is a leather Wrights
-new chain and tires
Good info on Bayliss Wiley:
https://www.ebykr.com/2007/11/03/bayl...tent-presence/
Last edited by gster; 05-01-17 at 06:35 AM.
04-30-17, 09:22 AM
Senior Member
@gster- what a simply elegant bike! Thank you, too, for the article. How did you come upon this hub? Did you overhaul or otherwise take it apart?
04-30-17, 10:06 AM
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,572
Bikes: 1971 Hercules, 1978 Raleigh Superbe, 1978 Raleigh Tourist, 1964 Glider 3 Speed, 1967 Raleigh Sprite 5 Speed, 1968 Hercules AMF 3 Speed, 1972 Raleigh Superbe, 1976 Raleigh Superbe, 1957 Flying Pigeon, 1967 Dunelt 3 Speed
Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1028 Post(s)
Liked 444 Times
in
288 Posts
@gster- what a simply elegant bike! Thank you, too, for the article. How did you come upon this hub? Did you overhaul or otherwise take it apart?
Re the hub:
I was visiting George from Parts Unknown here in Toronto looking for some 3 speed parts and saw this wheel in the back. someone had spent some time polishing it up and I had a frame at home in need of wheels. The previous owner had done all the work including a new tire...$35.00! SOLD!
It's not as good as a Duo-matic hub but you can still lock up the back wheel.
Last edited by gster; 04-30-17 at 06:17 PM.
04-30-17, 03:16 PM
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 3,240
Mentioned: 103 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1299 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 103 Times
in
85 Posts
I learned from another site that it's polite to preface an Off Topic post with "OT".
My Bitsa Scorcher.
The Black Bomber
-Raleigh 10 speed frame (free)
-Swapped out Raleigh 3 speed bottom bracket
-Painted flat black
-Rear hub is a Bayliss Wiley single speed coaster brake laced to a 28" British Westrick rim
-Front wheel is a 28" Canadian rim (different tire size)
-Inverted bars with a scavenged Raleigh front caliper brake for saftey
-Saddle is a leather Wrights
-new chain and tires
Good info on Bayliss Wiley:
Bayliss-Wiley: Once Persistent Presence – Ebykr
My Bitsa Scorcher.
The Black Bomber
-Raleigh 10 speed frame (free)
-Swapped out Raleigh 3 speed bottom bracket
-Painted flat black
-Rear hub is a Bayliss Wiley single speed coaster brake laced to a 28" British Westrick rim
-Front wheel is a 28" Canadian rim (different tire size)
-Inverted bars with a scavenged Raleigh front caliper brake for saftey
-Saddle is a leather Wrights
-new chain and tires
Good info on Bayliss Wiley:
Bayliss-Wiley: Once Persistent Presence – Ebykr
04-30-17, 03:22 PM
Phyllo-buster
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 8,847
Bikes: roadsters, club bikes, fixed and classic
Mentioned: 133 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2298 Post(s)
Liked 2,055 Times
in
1,255 Posts
George is the definitive nice guy. He can keep them if he really wants them.
04-30-17, 06:32 PM
On the road
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: New England
Posts: 2,176
Bikes: Old Schwinns and old Raleighs
Mentioned: 36 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 373 Post(s)
Liked 857 Times
in
327 Posts
A little hot weather ride time on the FW-equipped Sports.
__________________
Classic American and British Roadsters, Utility Bikes, and Sporting Bikes (1935-1979):
https://bikeshedva.blogspot.com/
Classic American and British Roadsters, Utility Bikes, and Sporting Bikes (1935-1979):
https://bikeshedva.blogspot.com/
04-30-17, 08:37 PM
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,572
Bikes: 1971 Hercules, 1978 Raleigh Superbe, 1978 Raleigh Tourist, 1964 Glider 3 Speed, 1967 Raleigh Sprite 5 Speed, 1968 Hercules AMF 3 Speed, 1972 Raleigh Superbe, 1976 Raleigh Superbe, 1957 Flying Pigeon, 1967 Dunelt 3 Speed
Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1028 Post(s)
Liked 444 Times
in
288 Posts
Never too old for a bit of fun.
04-30-17, 08:38 PM
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,572
Bikes: 1971 Hercules, 1978 Raleigh Superbe, 1978 Raleigh Tourist, 1964 Glider 3 Speed, 1967 Raleigh Sprite 5 Speed, 1968 Hercules AMF 3 Speed, 1972 Raleigh Superbe, 1976 Raleigh Superbe, 1957 Flying Pigeon, 1967 Dunelt 3 Speed
Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1028 Post(s)
Liked 444 Times
in
288 Posts
04-30-17, 08:39 PM
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,572
Bikes: 1971 Hercules, 1978 Raleigh Superbe, 1978 Raleigh Tourist, 1964 Glider 3 Speed, 1967 Raleigh Sprite 5 Speed, 1968 Hercules AMF 3 Speed, 1972 Raleigh Superbe, 1976 Raleigh Superbe, 1957 Flying Pigeon, 1967 Dunelt 3 Speed
Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1028 Post(s)
Liked 444 Times
in
288 Posts
@gster- did you see the coffee Raleigh? Did you get it?
G
04-30-17, 09:33 PM
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 3,240
Mentioned: 103 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1299 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 103 Times
in
85 Posts
05-01-17, 06:02 AM
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,572
Bikes: 1971 Hercules, 1978 Raleigh Superbe, 1978 Raleigh Tourist, 1964 Glider 3 Speed, 1967 Raleigh Sprite 5 Speed, 1968 Hercules AMF 3 Speed, 1972 Raleigh Superbe, 1976 Raleigh Superbe, 1957 Flying Pigeon, 1967 Dunelt 3 Speed
Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1028 Post(s)
Liked 444 Times
in
288 Posts
Correct and Incorrect Riding Positions
From the 1880's.....
05-01-17, 06:11 AM
multimodal commuter
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: NJ, NYC, LI
Posts: 19,808
Bikes: 1940s Fothergill, 1959 Allegro Special, 1963? Claud Butler Olympic Sprint, Lambert 'Clubman', 1974 Fuji "the Ace", 1976 Holdsworth 650b conversion rando bike, 1983 Trek 720 tourer, 1984 Counterpoint Opus II, 1993 Basso Gap, 2010 Downtube 8h, and...
Mentioned: 584 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1908 Post(s)
Liked 574 Times
in
339 Posts
Ha! That's great. Where are those photos from? Interesting that one of them is labeled as "correct," while the other has no such judgement made. I think I would move the handlebar a little farther forward on the "correct" one, maybe move the saddle back a little.
__________________
www.rhmsaddles.com.
www.rhmsaddles.com.
05-01-17, 08:05 AM
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 152
Bikes: 2015 Giant Escape 2, '78 Schwinn Le Tour III, '87 Schwinn Tempo
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 41 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Hey guys-
Saw this on CL. Looks pretty grungy but intact. You think it's worth saving? Would be my first real major restoration project.
https://buffalo.craigslist.org/bik/6112128852.html
EDIT - emailed the seller. He sold it within 10 minutes of listing it. Oh well.
Saw this on CL. Looks pretty grungy but intact. You think it's worth saving? Would be my first real major restoration project.
https://buffalo.craigslist.org/bik/6112128852.html
EDIT - emailed the seller. He sold it within 10 minutes of listing it. Oh well.
Last edited by MikeinBuffalo; 05-01-17 at 08:24 AM. Reason: Better luck next time.