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Old 02-06-24, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by t2p
it’s like buying a new car every year - and then pushing it off a cliff
I think we got a pretty fair return on the investment.
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Originally Posted by DangerousDanR
If you don't take time to inhale the aroma of a good single malt Scotch you are absolutely missing the best part.
We just polished a bottle of Lagavulin 16, delightful.

I’ve been venturing into the bourbon world, haven’t had one I liked yet outside of woodford double oaked.

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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Wait till wedding. You can easily spend more for one night than you can for one year of the best university.
We were saved by COVID and later she figured she'd rather have the cash at some point. Sensible woman.
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So my sister got married in the mid 1980's. My parents offered her a big blowout wedding OR a modest wedding and a down payment on a house.

She got the big blowout wedding. It was your typical over-the-top NY Jewish wedding and I am sure it cost >100K in today's dollars. I don't approve but not my choice.

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On the one hand I’m glad I didn’t have a daughter. But on the other hand, girls will always love their daddy. ❤️
You are absolutely right!
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Embers



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Originally Posted by datlas
Kudos. I hope my kids do this.

We actually had a real wedding but did not want our meddlesome parents involved other than attending, so we self-funded it and only splurged on the venue and the caterer. We asked our friends to take pics and check the box for 2 sets of pictures (remember those days?) so no photographer. I took my stereo and had a friend make a party tape (remember those?) so no need to pay for entertainment. We kept the guest list very tight (about 54 attendees which pissed off my parents but tougho lucko), and the whole price tag in 1991 dollars was about $3500.

Most of the people said it was one of the best weddings they ever attended.
My wife and I had a big wedding that was pushed by her mom. We had some, but not much, say in what it would be.

My daughter always wanted a nice wedding, and we did that for her, although we watched our budget pretty closely. It was right on the heels of Covid which got us some nice discounts. We got a 12-piece band for half their normal fee which was not much more than a DJ. While we tried to keep it reasonable, the cost still came to close to a 4-year college education at a state university. YOLO!

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Originally Posted by phrantic09
We just polished a bottle of Lagavulin 16, delightful.

I’ve been venturing into the bourbon world, haven’t had one I liked yet outside of woodford double oaked.
Have you tried Angels Envy?
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Originally Posted by t2p
it’s like buying a new car every year - and then pushing it off a cliff
If you think it's a waste of money, don't spend the money.
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Gold Dust

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Have you tried Angels Envy?

No- I tried Basil Hayden, it was okay. Buddy of mine is really into Pappy Van Winkle but haven’t got my hands on it yet.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
My wife and I had a big wedding that was pushed by her mom. We had some, but not much, say in what it would be.

My daughter always wanted a nice wedding, and we did that for her, although we watched our budget pretty closely. It was right on the heels of Covid which got us some nice discounts. We got a 12-piece band for half their normal fee which was not much more than a DJ. While we tried to keep it reasonable, the cost still came to close to a 4-year college education at a state university. YOLO!

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Embers



or Gold Dust

The embers finish looks cool.
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or Gold Dust

Gold Dust looks nice in that particular setting, but seeing it on their site gives it a different look that I don't quite like as much.
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I plan on giving my kids about 13k per year each for college. Thats as much as I pay in support per year today per kid. Anything beyond that their mom will have to figure out. They should also pay for some of it themselves or they won’t value it.

I also have no problem letting them know when they’re adults that their mom got paid 370k in support from the time we split to the time they graduated high school. I offered when divorcing to put half of the support in a 529 and she would not agree to it.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
Gold Dust looks nice in that particular setting, but seeing it on their site gives it a different look that I don't quite like as much.
I think I prefer Embers. The Alpenglow model was discontinued, apparently UV did some damage to the finish colors.
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Scotch - we like islay/lowland. Lagavulin, Laphroaig, Ardbeg. I want it to smell and taste like swamp. Been into Mezcal for that reason too, smoky/savory/meaty. Bourbon is a bit sweet for me when neat, but I do love a bourbon based cocktail, manhattan, paper plane, boulevardier etc. +1 on the Woodford.

Spirit consumption has gone way down since baby came around. Even before then, I usually just prefer a glass of red most of the time. My favorite wines are made from Syrah (Crozes, Cote Rotie) and Sangiovese (Brunello, Chianti).
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Scotch - we like islay/lowland. Lagavulin, Laphroaig, Ardbeg. I want it to smell and taste like swamp. Been into Mezcal for that reason too, smoky/savory/meaty. Bourbon is a bit sweet for me when neat, but I do love a bourbon based cocktail, manhattan, paper plane, boulevardier etc. +1 on the Woodford.

Spirit consumption has gone way down since baby came around. Even before then, I usually just prefer a glass of red most of the time. My favorite wines are made from Syrah (Crozes, Cote Rotie) and Sangiovese (Brunello, Chianti).
I allow myself 2 drinks, one night per week. Trying to cut weight to 170 which is hard. I’d be at like 8% body fat at that weight
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Originally Posted by rjones28
If you think it's a waste of money, don't spend the money.
no - for sure not a waste of money - can be a great investment

but its a big chunk of change - and then lather/rinse/repeat the next year … and the next year … and …

we were fortunate our kids had generous scholarships - but that’s not often the case … and regardless it’s still $$$

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I allow myself 2 drinks, one night per week. Trying to cut weight to 170 which is hard. I’d be at like 8% body fat at that weight
That's about my weekly average as well.
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Originally Posted by phrantic09
I plan on giving my kids about 13k per year each for college. Thats as much as I pay in support per year today per kid. Anything beyond that their mom will have to figure out. They should also pay for some of it themselves or they won’t value it.

I also have no problem letting them know when they’re adults that their mom got paid 370k in support from the time we split to the time they graduated high school. I offered when divorcing to put half of the support in a 529 and she would not agree to it.
We are fans of requiring the kids to have skin in the game. We paid for their undergrad, but required them to pay their own grad school (which was required for their career choices). Daughter first complained about having a student loan for that, but she quickly got over it.

Feel for you in your situation. If I were in your shoes, I most likely would have done things differently than I did.
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I allow myself 2 drinks, one night per week. Trying to cut weight to 170 which is hard. I’d be at like 8% body fat at that weight
I have that much most nights of the week, usually in the form of wine with dinner. Never any more if I want to do anything meaningful on the bike the next day, which is most of the time really. A couple glasses of red seems to be as much as I can have without any noticeable hangover, and still have drive to push on the bike the next day. Or it's just a baseline, hard to tell.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
We are fans of requiring the kids to have skin in the game. We paid for their undergrad, but required them to pay their own grad school (which was required for their career choices). Daughter first complained about having a student loan for that, but she quickly got over it.

Feel for you in your situation. If I were in your shoes, I most likely would have done things differently than I did.
If that money went into a 529, they’d have a big amount covered most likely. Oh well.

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I have that much most nights of the week, usually in the form of wine with dinner. Never any more if I want to do anything meaningful on the bike the next day, which is most of the time really. A couple glasses of red seems to be as much as I can have without any noticeable hangover, and still have drive to push on the bike the next day. Or it's just a baseline, hard to tell.
Many nights I’ll have a couple of 5mg THC seltzers after dinner to relax. I prefer that to drinking- no hangover and a great night of sleep.
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Mass Start Neokyo Crit race ~10mi, 11th / 91.

Had planned on going easy after the hard weekend rides, but my legs and mind felt ok during my vibe check warmup, so I lined up. It took forever to load and I was actually 5s late so I had to attack to the front, dangit. A couple minutes in, 5 or so went up the road and everyone looked at each other. I wasn't / haven't been feeling confident in myself so I sat in and it became very clear we were racing or 6th.

After ~10 min of that I got pissed at seeing my AP so low and so much blue and green, so I attacked and drew out a few more. It was a nice hard push to the line and we were never more than 9s up. Sat up at the sprint and got passed by a couple, could have squeezed a bit to hold on to 8th, whatever.

Capped off the ride w another 10 min with the A bot. I was the only one there!


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