For the love of English 3 speeds...
10-25-18, 08:31 AM
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BSA
Bits Strewn All Over
I don't think having an old sock jammed in the Bottom Bracket for 40 years did the bike any favours...
The spindle and cups are both quite rough but I'm obligated to clean and repack as the BSA threading would make finding/fitting another cup virtually impossible.
Should be able to clean and polish to a reasonable state.
Bits Strewn All Over
I don't think having an old sock jammed in the Bottom Bracket for 40 years did the bike any favours...
The spindle and cups are both quite rough but I'm obligated to clean and repack as the BSA threading would make finding/fitting another cup virtually impossible.
Should be able to clean and polish to a reasonable state.
10-25-18, 08:43 AM
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Somewhat Interesting
On a Raleigh built headset, the bottom race sits inside the cup.
On the BSA, the bottom race is flush which explains the second race, which sits inside the cup.
Hence, "Inserted head cup races" as stated in the catalogue.
Never too late to learn something new.
Same on the top.
So it wasn't tomfoolery after all
On a Raleigh built headset, the bottom race sits inside the cup.
On the BSA, the bottom race is flush which explains the second race, which sits inside the cup.
Hence, "Inserted head cup races" as stated in the catalogue.
Never too late to learn something new.
Same on the top.
So it wasn't tomfoolery after all
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10-25-18, 09:18 AM
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Little Details
46 stamped on the back of the chain ring.
BSA logo stamped on crank.
46 stamped on the back of the chain ring.
BSA logo stamped on crank.
10-25-18, 11:54 AM
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Maybe I missed it, was this frame spray painted black? Looks like the blue would come out with a little extra effort.
10-25-18, 01:37 PM
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10-25-18, 01:45 PM
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BSA should have bog standard BSC/ISO threads. If the Cup is a BW, I've got one for you and maybe the spindle too if you measure the length and offset. Shipping costs.
10-25-18, 02:31 PM
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10-25-18, 02:38 PM
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Question about wheel size.
The Sport comes in 26" wheel. The Roadster comes in 28" wheel.
What was the rationale for going to a smaller wheel size when the Sport was created?
P.s. I see in Japan and in Europe the 28" wheel (ISO 635) are still very popular.
Eventhough the average height of Japanese is short...they still use those big 28" wheel. I wonder why...doesn't make sense.
The Sport comes in 26" wheel. The Roadster comes in 28" wheel.
What was the rationale for going to a smaller wheel size when the Sport was created?
P.s. I see in Japan and in Europe the 28" wheel (ISO 635) are still very popular.
Eventhough the average height of Japanese is short...they still use those big 28" wheel. I wonder why...doesn't make sense.
28" doesn't make much sense for Japan or India where those bikes are also common. Except that it's a long-held standard. I honestly don't know how they fit on those bikes.
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10-25-18, 02:49 PM
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10-25-18, 02:55 PM
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Sock It To Me, Baby..
Could this sock have been inside the BB since 1953?
A disgruntled worker playing a prank?
I would take a lot of work to jam it inside and then seal it up....
Could this sock have been inside the BB since 1953?
A disgruntled worker playing a prank?
I would take a lot of work to jam it inside and then seal it up....
10-25-18, 05:54 PM
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Dan: That is a great video and clearly describes the process for dismantling and re-assembling the BSA Hub Gear, plus describing how it works, a great tool for those who come across these hubs, as you say there is a dearth of information on these hubs. I don't think you need to edit it down, it does the job perfectly as it is in my view, having recently dismantled one of these.
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10-25-18, 06:02 PM
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Hey! That's the bike!
More good detective work.
The frame has the same pump mounts.
"Inserted cup head races...."
Interesting to think of how many hands it's past through in the past 65 years...
And how it came to have a 1961 SA hub and a Dynohub up front.
The guy I got it from had just bought it a couple of weeks before.
He had too many bikes and wasn't going to bother with it.
A prime candidate for a Semi Scorcher!
Thanks
More good detective work.
The frame has the same pump mounts.
"Inserted cup head races...."
Interesting to think of how many hands it's past through in the past 65 years...
And how it came to have a 1961 SA hub and a Dynohub up front.
The guy I got it from had just bought it a couple of weeks before.
He had too many bikes and wasn't going to bother with it.
A prime candidate for a Semi Scorcher!
Thanks
A while ago, my wife brought home a very neglected early 50s stepthrough from a friends house that was left outside for some period of time. Lots of salvagable parts though. No trace of a brand, but it is in the Birmingham style. It might have BB and headset parts that would be helpful to you. Let me know if you run into any trouble. Just one more possible option.
10-25-18, 09:01 PM
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10-26-18, 04:35 AM
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I can only guess that they realized 26" made more sense as it would fit more people. I think on average, the English are tall, taller than Americans.
28" doesn't make much sense for Japan or India where those bikes are also common. Except that it's a long-held standard. I honestly don't know how they fit on those bikes.
28" doesn't make much sense for Japan or India where those bikes are also common. Except that it's a long-held standard. I honestly don't know how they fit on those bikes.
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10-26-18, 07:04 AM
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Besides the early date, the exciting thing is that this wasn't originally a roadster. It came in club trim. 1 1/4" rims, celluloid mudguards and drop bars. Although "all rounders" were listed as an option. The catalog even mentions that arrow ornament on the fork. Nice find!
A while ago, my wife brought home a very neglected early 50s stepthrough from a friends house that was left outside for some period of time. Lots of salvagable parts though. No trace of a brand, but it is in the Birmingham style. It might have BB and headset parts that would be helpful to you. Let me know if you run into any trouble. Just one more possible option.
A while ago, my wife brought home a very neglected early 50s stepthrough from a friends house that was left outside for some period of time. Lots of salvagable parts though. No trace of a brand, but it is in the Birmingham style. It might have BB and headset parts that would be helpful to you. Let me know if you run into any trouble. Just one more possible option.
No sign of a pulley every being fitted to the seat tube but it does
have an odd (non Raleigh) cable stop
on the swing arm.
Frame 1953
S/A hub 1961
Dynohub 1974
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display....
I've also built a cradle in the garage for winter storage.
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10-26-18, 08:11 AM
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I might have something here!! No use at all for this. Maybe we'll be lucky. It's a 5 1/4" spindle marked R.F.G "S".
I'm measuring from the outer edge of the bearing surface.
revised
I'm measuring from the outer edge of the bearing surface.
revised
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Tall English?
I can only guess that they realized 26" made more sense as it would fit more people. I think on average, the English are tall, taller than Americans.
28" doesn't make much sense for Japan or India where those bikes are also common. Except that it's a long-held standard. I honestly don't know how they fit on those bikes.
28" doesn't make much sense for Japan or India where those bikes are also common. Except that it's a long-held standard. I honestly don't know how they fit on those bikes.
10-26-18, 12:24 PM
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A visit today to my friend George (Parts Unknown) has yielded some good items.
A vintage pump
A decent rear caliper
North road bars and stem in excellent condition
An adjustable cup (almost new) that fits
and a fixed cup
All for the bargain price of $20.00!!!
A vintage pump
A decent rear caliper
North road bars and stem in excellent condition
An adjustable cup (almost new) that fits
and a fixed cup
All for the bargain price of $20.00!!!
10-26-18, 12:27 PM
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Yup, Sports bikes had steeper angles, shorter wheelbases, smaller wheels in order to have a 'Sportier' ride. A little more nimble and quick but not in the same league as the higher end club bikes. Pretty close though.
Gotta hand it to George. He's in it for the love of bikes, certainly not the huge profits.
Gotta hand it to George. He's in it for the love of bikes, certainly not the huge profits.
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I converted it back to fractions because I'm figuring you'll be using a ruler. You have some wiggle room on the drive side dimension since you have the dished cog and those two shims to adjust the chain line. Sure hope this one works for you. It's new and yours is looking a bit rough.