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The road pictures are interesting. I am sure it's regionally different, but around here a "double yellow line road" typically has more traffic and should be avoided. The back-roads typically do not have these lines. The irony is the double-yellow lined roads usually do not have chipseal or stupid potholes, so it's a tough balance to find the sweet spot. There are a few lined roads that are not used much and are actually pretty good to ride on.
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Road in Amish country during my recent tour. Notice the marks left by buggies and the dried horse dung. It was virtually traffic free on a Saturday afternoon. The crazy thing is that maybe two miles later I got buzzed, well in violation of PAs 4 passing law. There was no oncoming traffic and a clear sight line. From what I could see, the driver looked like an old lady. I was so pissed I let out one of the loudest F-Us I ever have. Felt bad because I was right across from an Amish farmhouse.
10-05-20, 07:48 AM
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Leaving camp at 8 am. No traffic passed for the entire four or so miles. Maybe 1 or 2 cars in the other direction.
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RJ ill be in Syracuse tomorrow, we stay by the airport. Judging the distance on strava, it looks like a decent walk to your shop.
10-05-20, 08:04 AM
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Road in Amish country during my recent tour. Notice the marks left by buggies and the dried horse dung. It was virtually traffic free on a Saturday afternoon. The crazy thing is that maybe two miles later I got buzzed, well in violation of PAs 4 passing law. There was no oncoming traffic and a clear sight line. From what I could see, the driver looked like an old lady. I was so pissed I let out one of the loudest F-Us I ever have. Felt bad because I was right across from an Amish farmhouse.
10-05-20, 08:05 AM
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10-05-20, 08:06 AM
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I feel the same way, and I actually hope my family will forgive her.
10-05-20, 08:08 AM
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In the county that I worked in, we had our own painting equipment and painted all county maintained highways with center and edge lines. We also hired out to townships and cities though they dont stripe every road depending upon ADT and need. Some have their own equipment, too.
Regarding no passing lines, there is a set rule and formula as dictated by the Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices and governs all roads in the United States. However, many local maintenance authorities stripe no passing zones by feel and opinion which leads to some weird line usage.
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In Illinois, the highway structure is State (and Federal), County, Township, and City maintained respectively.
In the county that I worked in, we had our own painting equipment and painted all county maintained highways with center and edge lines. We also hired out to townships and cities though they don’t stripe every road depending upon ADT and need. Some have their own equipment, too.
Regarding no passing lines, there is a set rule and formula as dictated by the Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices and governs all roads in the United States. However, many local maintenance authorities stripe no passing zones by feel and opinion which leads to some weird line usage.
In the county that I worked in, we had our own painting equipment and painted all county maintained highways with center and edge lines. We also hired out to townships and cities though they don’t stripe every road depending upon ADT and need. Some have their own equipment, too.
Regarding no passing lines, there is a set rule and formula as dictated by the Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices and governs all roads in the United States. However, many local maintenance authorities stripe no passing zones by feel and opinion which leads to some weird line usage.
Idiots who won't cross a double yellow to give you a foot or two are prominent in my bestiary of evil drivers.
10-05-20, 08:16 AM
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Yeah, I am ok with that. Make some lemonade from the lemons.
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Agreed. NPZ lines are determined by the design speed to safely pass a car. For example, a 55 zone requires a safe sight distance of roughly 1000. Obviously, if the vehicle [bicycle) is moving much slower than the road design speed, a driver should be able to use their own judgement when crossing the NPZ line.
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10-05-20, 08:54 AM
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So, on Saturday, I rode with a couple of guys from my old neighborhood whom I hadn't seen in many years and are members of the most "elite" local cycling club. I mainly ran, lifted, and did Masters swim workouts with them, but I had done a few rides with them back in the 90s on my old road bike with the Nuovo Record, sewups, etc. After we schlepped around for a while, the one I used to train with the most and was closest to personally, says something like, "Nice bike, now I can start calling you up for rides." See what a soulless plastic bike will do for you?
10-05-20, 09:28 AM
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Same here. I want to get some leaflets explaining the 4 foot rule and how it's OK to cross the double yellow line if no oncoming traffic to local drivers, and tie them to a rock to throw through the rear window of the offenders. Sigh.
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10-05-20, 10:33 AM
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