viros20

Hit this nasty pothole while flying downhill at around 1am last week. Never saw it coming looked over my shoulder looked ahead and it just caught me by surprise. I had good lighting to prevent this type of thing but it didnt help.

damaged my mavic ksyrium sl premiums which have been really good to me but I guess this pothole at that speed will ruin any bombproof wheel.

dented my caad 9 also. Im planning on filing a claim with the city and hope I get lucky. I got lucky in this crash with no injurys other than scrapes.

ruined my jacket, bibs and a cracked helmet also

also some input would be nice on whether to send the wheels to mavic for rebuild or just purchase rims and have someone relace them locally??

pics will be posted shortly

viros20

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bent rim

Velo Vol 

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viros20

group ride starts at 10pm monday nights ends around 1-2am..

cyclefreaksix

Yeah, good luck trying to get the city to pay. Sounds like you were going too fast for your lighting.

viros20

lighting was a dinotte 200l & fenix LD2 on my helmet, stupid thing caught me by surprise, will be the first to admit its my fault for not scanning ahead.

khatfull

I'm sorry, asking the city to pay for your boneheaded maneuver is quite crappy IMHO.

I've always heard (and adhered to) three rules for night riding:

1) Slow down.
2) Have lighting to see and be seen.
3) Slow down.

You violated all three. You should count your blessings you weren't hurt in the crash, then hit by a driver not watching out in the dark.

Foolish.

Do solo recovery and training rides at night and save the group hammerfests for those times you can see.

That said, I'm genuinely glad you're ok. Could have been a crapload worse right?

cyclefreaksix

It happens to all of us. I didn't mean to come across as an ass. Pity about the rims, do you have a back up set?

gr@sshopper

Looks like an incycle/scvelo bike. Where were you/where's the pothole? Help out the socal brethren.

viros20

yeah its a incycle caad9, potholes on Cahuenga Pass W toward the bottom on the right, just before HillPark Dr

bismillah

You forgot one, Khatful. Dont ever ever accidentally the whole thing.

viros20

definatly glad i didnt get hurt, i figure it doesnt hurt to ask

let me ask you this, do you always drive at the speedlimit? what if your going a lil over the speed limit and a pot hole causes over 1000 dollars damage on your car?. would you not ask the city for help cause you were speeding?

as far as i see, it could of happend in the daytime, or even on a flat section of road.

datlas 

Glad you are ok.

And yes, the new site sucks (still).

calamarichris

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viros20

kept the stock wheelset, hoping it doesnt take to long to get the wheelset fixed,

hodie21

Could have been much worse. Lucky you didn't go end over end.

jrennie

Umm, it's in the center of two lanes(from the looks of the pic) kinda hard to get the city to pay for it when you shouldn't be riding there.

khatfull

Do I always drive the speed limit? Now, yes...after nearly getting my license yanked I learned my lesson. The only time I'll go faster is for merging if that's what's necessary to merge safely.

No, I would never ask the city for help in repairing my car (speeding or not) unless a pothole or other hazard were completely hidden by something of the city's doing. Potholes and other hazards are part of the cost, risk, and privilege of driving. It's incumbent on m to operate my vehicle (be it car or bike) safely and at a speed at which I can identify road hazards in enough time to identify and avoid them.

Yes, it could have happened in the daytime...but it would be FAR less likely to. Far less. You bombed down the hill too fast for conditions. You played the game, you lost. It's a shame but them's the facts.

And, honestly, if you think that's a pothole come to MN, we'll show you what the hell a pothole is...heck, we get frost heave here in the spring that's damned near explosive and shuts down roads

khatfull

I wasn't even gonna go there...

hairnet

:/

I too hit a pot hole at that speed a while ago, but it was around a corner. Cracked my rear rim

viros20

was riding on the left lane, looked over my shoulder to merge to right incase cars were coming thats when I hit & went flying,

the city/state gets enough of my money I expect them to repair stuff like this especially on major streets with heavy traffic. doubt ill get a dime all im saying is doesnt hurt to fill out a form & submit a claim. you never know maybe the the claims guy/girl is also a cyclist.

Tristan86

You can ride there if there isn't cars, I don't think that is the problem

viros20

+1 , the road also starts to wind, also there are other pot holes closer to the right.

sstorkel

Sounds to me like you are, potentially, throwing money away. Most public agencies who maintain roads have at least some responsibility for using the public funds they receive to keep roads in usable condition. Often, if your vehicle is damaged by a problem with a road (read: pothole) you can receive compensation for the damage because the agency failed to fulfill it's responsibility.

If I were the OP, I would definitely contact the agency responsible for maintaining the road. In the town where I used to live, the Public Works department was legally liable for damages if road problems weren't fixed within a certain period of time after they were initially notified of the problem...

khatfull

I simply live under the belief that I'm responsible for what goes on in my life, good or bad unless gross and deliberate negligence occurs. That "pothole" isn't gross or deliberate negligence. Good reason not to speed in the car, or bomb down a hill on the bike in the dark. One takes the chance and one suffers the consequences.

And, when push comes to shove, that "pothole" has absolutely NO effect on a car...so in it's mind the public agency feels it has fulfilled the obligation. We on bikes come far down the list. Is it right? No. Is it fact? Yes.

The OP 1) rode fast 2) at night 3) and looked away from the road ahead. Remove any one of those three and the crash more than likely doesn't happen. Who's at fault?