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Old 03-26-10, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by m0nkiwitacaus
no, when i got home, i took the whole crankset off (the spider, chainwheel, and crank arm) and i was just looking at it. when i put everything back on, i didn't realize that the arm it was at the wrong rotation (if you look at the picture, the crank arms are in the same position). I was in a rush and didn't pay attention to the position of the left crank arm.
Oh. OK.

For the record, in SSFG and/or in the Bike Mechanics subforum, there were accounts of people who have folded their chainring, with their pedaling. So your case isn't really unique in that sense. Here is one such thread: https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ring-diagnosis
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Old 03-27-10, 01:13 PM
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thanks for that, a few of those comments were pretty helpful

..still deciding on what kind of chainring to buy tho =/

i liked this one a lot:
https://www.ebikestop.com/all_city_46...ngs-CR2946.php
it's made of "7000 series aluminum"

any comments on it anyone?
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I know it's a bit above your price range but right now im riding on a Sugino 75 crank and i LOVE it.


I highly recommend this to anyone willing to drop $200 on a crank
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Originally Posted by iiAtlas
I know it's a bit above your price range but right now im riding on a Sugino 75 crank and i LOVE it.


I highly recommend this to anyone willing to drop $200 on a crank
More like $300+ including a chainring and bolts. But yes, awesome cranks.
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Ya I got a deal at the shop
Haven't had a single let down with these bad boys!
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie
I'll offer a theory that the chainring bolts were very loose and finally one came out completely, allowing the chainring to slip off the crank spider shoulder. When the chain pushed down at that point, the chainring simply bent and buckled. Also, that chainring has a very narrow section, which added to the problem. A solid chainring like a Sugino Messenger might have survived.
I have to agree with this. I have a chainring hanging on my wall that is the OP's chainring's long lost cousin. Lost a bolt, went to take off and she folded over instantly.
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Originally Posted by m0nkiwitacaus
thanks for that, a few of those comments were pretty helpful

..still deciding on what kind of chainring to buy tho =/

i liked this one a lot:
https://www.ebikestop.com/all_city_46...ngs-CR2946.php
it's made of "7000 series aluminum"

any comments on it anyone?
You're welcome. I remember that thread well, as it was quite interesting to see this bent chainring so often.

As for 7000 series aluminum, there are various alloys in that series, and the same alloy can come in various tempers. Still, pretty much any 7000 alloy will be harder than a 6061, for instance. Cranks are usually made of 6061, and the cheaper and crappier chainrings as well. Point in case: Rocket Rings. Keep clear of that abomination as far as you can.

Nowadays the best chainrings are made of 7075 aluminum alloy. From personal experience I can say that a 7075 chainring will last many times longer than one made of 6061. Steel would be the best material for a chainring, but nowadays only Surly makes steel chainrings. Those will last a lifetime.

Here is an excellent crankset that comes with a 7075 chainring, for example:
https://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...s.php?id=21765

I would discourage you from getting the Sugino 75 (Sugino does have good products, but..) because it's the same crankset you can buy for half the price from other, less renowned manufacturers: just two pieces of forged 6061 aluminum. Absolutely nothing to justify the pricetag. Of course, it gives you street cred among a certain demographic, if that's your thing...
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While we're on the topic of inexpensive quality cranksets, anyone wish to provide an opinion on the Vuelta cranks >>> https://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...6&category=688
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie
While we're on the topic of inexpensive quality cranksets, anyone wish to provide an opinion on the Vuelta cranks >>> https://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...6&category=688
Add me to the list of those who would like to hear first-hand accounts. On paper, it looks like an unbeatable deal (for a 144 BCD crankset with a 7075 chainring).
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Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops
You're welcome. I remember that thread well, as it was quite interesting to see this bent chainring so often.

As for 7000 series aluminum, there are various alloys in that series, and the same alloy can come in various tempers. Still, pretty much any 7000 alloy will be harder than a 6061, for instance. Cranks are usually made of 6061, and the cheaper and crappier chainrings as well. Point in case: Rocket Rings. Keep clear of that abomination as far as you can.

Nowadays the best chainrings are made of 7075 aluminum alloy. From personal experience I can say that a 7075 chainring will last many times longer than one made of 6061. Steel would be the best material for a chainring, but nowadays only Surly makes steel chainrings. Those will last a lifetime.

Here is an excellent crankset that comes with a 7075 chainring, for example:
https://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...s.php?id=21765

I would discourage you from getting the Sugino 75 (Sugino does have good products, but..) because it's the same crankset you can buy for half the price from other, less renowned manufacturers: just two pieces of forged 6061 aluminum. Absolutely nothing to justify the pricetag. Of course, it gives you street cred among a certain demographic, if that's your thing...
well, i only need a chainring right now, it looks like the spider is fine so i don't think i need to replace the whole crankset.

i just found these two which are both made of 7075:
https://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...29&category=50
https://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...07&category=50

i don't know if theres much of a difference between a track specialized chainring and one that's just for ss/fg, except maybe aerodynamics...but how do those two look?

I would prefer to get the cheaper one (the first one), but do you guys think it's of good quality?
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The first chainring (Specialized) is 3/32 thick, whereas the second (FSA) is 1/8 thick, so it will be stiffer and stronger. Also the FSA is solid, so that also makes it stiffer and stronger. So, I would recommend the FSA.
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie
The first chainring (Specialized) is 3/32 thick, whereas the second (FSA) is 1/8 thick, so it will be stiffer and stronger. Also the FSA is solid, so that also makes it stiffer and stronger. So, I would recommend the FSA.
nevermind..didn't realize that the FSA is for 144 bcd. I'll try to keep looking for one that's 130
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Originally Posted by m0nkiwitacaus
well, i only need a chainring right now, it looks like the spider is fine so i don't think i need to replace the whole crankset.

i just found these two which are both made of 7075:
https://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...29&category=50
https://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...07&category=50

i don't know if theres much of a difference between a track specialized chainring and one that's just for ss/fg, except maybe aerodynamics...but how do those two look?

I would prefer to get the cheaper one (the first one), but do you guys think it's of good quality?
This is what I would suggest:
https://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...s.php?id=19750
Even though it's not 1/8", it will outlive any aluminum (even 7075) chainring by a looooooong long time. It might outlive even you, although I do wish you a very long life.

Otherwise, if it really has to be aluminum, you might consider these:
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...2#ht_500wt_750
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Old 03-28-10, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie
While we're on the topic of inexpensive quality cranksets, anyone wish to provide an opinion on the Vuelta cranks >>> https://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...6&category=688
can't talk about vuelta cranks but I got the SRAM S300 about a month ago and it's also a decent inexpensive solution. Kind of like the poor man's Omnium.

The GXP BB is a little noisy however. Nothing too crazy though. I usually don't even notice it.
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Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops
This is what I would suggest:
https://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...s.php?id=19750
Even though it's not 1/8", it will outlive any aluminum (even 7075) chainring by a looooooong long time. It might outlive even you, although I do wish you a very long life.

Otherwise, if it really has to be aluminum, you might consider these:
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...2#ht_500wt_750
Are there any cons of using a steel chainring? And would the Surly chainring you suggested be ok to use with ss/fg?
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Are there any cons of using a steel chainring? And would the Surly chainring you suggested be ok to use with ss/fg?
1. None.
2. It would - it has no ramps or pins.
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Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops
1. None.
2. It would - it has no ramps or pins.
Also, would there be much of a difference by switching my chain from a 1/8 to a 3/32 when using this?
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Originally Posted by m0nkiwitacaus
Also, would there be much of a difference by switching my chain from a 1/8 to a 3/32 when using this?
You don't need to get a 3/32" chain, but if you want, and if your cog or freewheel are also 3/32", you can. There should be no difference.
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ohh ok. I thought i had to switch the chain out to accommodate this. Thanks for all your help, and everyone else who also provided their input!
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Originally Posted by iiAtlas
I know it's a bit above your price range but right now im riding on a Sugino 75 crank and i LOVE it.
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I highly recommend this to anyone willing to drop $200 on a crank
He'll need a new BB too.... hilarious how just a entire 75 setup would cost more then his entire bike....
Great cranks, if not the best in my opinion but his motobecane is in no way worthy of these bad boys.
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one more thing, would it matter if my chainring is 3/32 and my rear sprocket is 1/8?
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No...provided you use a 1/8 chain.
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