An Open Letter to the Fred Commuter on Mass. Ave.
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Me too, I guess that is what happens when you're the only one along your route/time. I say that because I rarely see cyclists of any type along my route/time frame. Not counting the Trek Across Maine folk, I think I have seen maybe a dozen cyclists (of any flavor,i.e. roadie, recreational, commuter,ect.)while out riding this year
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Me too, I guess that is what happens when you're the only one along your route/time. I say that because I rarely see cyclists of any type along my route/time frame. Not counting the Trek Across Maine folk, I think I have seen maybe a dozen cyclists (of any flavor,i.e. roadie, recreational, commuter,ect.)while out riding this year
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What is the difference between a university and a college? I don't know. Around here we use the terms pretty much interchangeably.
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I think (and please, somebody correct me if I'm wrong), that universities (A) have more than one college within them, e.g. Arts & Sciences, Engineering, and Business, with an accompanying larger number of degrees available, while colleges have just one (usually Arts & Sciences only, I believe) and (B) universities have a research/publishing requirement for professors, while colleges don't.
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bike etiquette is too difficult to maintain:
My pinkies get tired of staying raised when on the hoods.
Utensils are too hard to work with safely at speed when you need an energy snack.
My napkin always blows away when I place it on my knee.
"Pardon me good sir, but I will be overtaking you on your left hand side" is too hard to get out when breathless.
My pinkies get tired of staying raised when on the hoods.
Utensils are too hard to work with safely at speed when you need an energy snack.
My napkin always blows away when I place it on my knee.
"Pardon me good sir, but I will be overtaking you on your left hand side" is too hard to get out when breathless.
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Another piece of bike etiquette that I try to follow: don't be a busy-body know it all unless it threatens your own personal safety. It sounds like the guy on the Trek doesn't follow that rule. Even if someone does something annoying (though I'm not saying that the OP did), I certainly wouldn't get in a snit about it.
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bike etiquette is too difficult to maintain:
My pinkies get tired of staying raised when on the hoods.
Utensils are too hard to work with safely at speed when you need an energy snack.
My napkin always blows away when I place it on my knee.
"Pardon me good sir, but I will be overtaking you on your left hand side" is too hard to get out when breathless.
My pinkies get tired of staying raised when on the hoods.
Utensils are too hard to work with safely at speed when you need an energy snack.
My napkin always blows away when I place it on my knee.
"Pardon me good sir, but I will be overtaking you on your left hand side" is too hard to get out when breathless.
And, of course, the sine qua non of bike etiquette, the formal presentation the coat of arms in which the rider's pedigree and heritage are compared, the proper order established, and improper overtaking by unworthies prevented.
That said, it does get me when I'm stopped at lights and another cylist comes and plonks themselves in my way; the ones who do it are never fast enough to not get in the way. The properly quick ones tend to place themselves with more awareness.
I'd also write a really long rant at this point, however I have decided to telepathically transfer it to you instead. It's about daydreaming cyclists who weave all over the road, them scream in angry fright when politely invited to wake up, transit vans, taxis in general, and dozy weekend drivers. Got it? Yeah, thought so.
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since the forum search doesn't work, you'll never find it, but I'm positive I have seen the equal and opposite thread to this one on this forum sometime during the last year.
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Am I the only one here that thinks the OP shouldn't pass on the right? No matter what?
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bike etiquette is too difficult to maintain:
My pinkies get tired of staying raised when on the hoods.
Utensils are too hard to work with safely at speed when you need an energy snack.
My napkin always blows away when I place it on my knee.
"Pardon me good sir, but I will be overtaking you on your left hand side" is too hard to get out when breathless.
My pinkies get tired of staying raised when on the hoods.
Utensils are too hard to work with safely at speed when you need an energy snack.
My napkin always blows away when I place it on my knee.
"Pardon me good sir, but I will be overtaking you on your left hand side" is too hard to get out when breathless.
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It is better to remain quiet and thought a fool, then to speak up and remove all doubt....I wouldn't even acknowledge their presence.
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Wow, so much to worry about? I would have just had a good laugh at someone trying so hard to impress without the ability to actually do so (lots of them out there).
As an alternative (since you were apparently more fit than this individual) rather than an open letter, next time ride up next to the guy and chat him up while he's wheezing. It's just a way to say "you're not so fast" without actually saying it.
Also, a lot of people get hacked about wheel suckers. I don't like them either, but you have two choices:
1) Back off just a little, and they'll come around. Then you can let them go, or return the favor.
2) Drop 'em (my favorite). I'm not as fit now as when I raced, so it's not quite as easy as it used to be, but it sure is satisfying.
As an alternative (since you were apparently more fit than this individual) rather than an open letter, next time ride up next to the guy and chat him up while he's wheezing. It's just a way to say "you're not so fast" without actually saying it.
Also, a lot of people get hacked about wheel suckers. I don't like them either, but you have two choices:
1) Back off just a little, and they'll come around. Then you can let them go, or return the favor.
2) Drop 'em (my favorite). I'm not as fit now as when I raced, so it's not quite as easy as it used to be, but it sure is satisfying.
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I think (and please, somebody correct me if I'm wrong), that universities (A) have more than one college within them, e.g. Arts & Sciences, Engineering, and Business, with an accompanying larger number of degrees available, while colleges have just one (usually Arts & Sciences only, I believe) and (B) universities have a research/publishing requirement for professors, while colleges don't.
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When I get around cyclists that the OP encountered, my only hope is that there are numerous stop lights for them to run, that way they get so far a head that I cannot possibly encounter them again on that same day.
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Wow, so much to worry about? I would have just had a good laugh at someone trying so hard to impress without the ability to actually do so (lots of them out there).
As an alternative (since you were apparently more fit than this individual) rather than an open letter, next time ride up next to the guy and chat him up while he's wheezing. It's just a way to say "you're not so fast" without actually saying it.
Also, a lot of people get hacked about wheel suckers. I don't like them either, but you have two choices:
1) Back off just a little, and they'll come around. Then you can let them go, or return the favor.
2) Drop 'em (my favorite). I'm not as fit now as when I raced, so it's not quite as easy as it used to be, but it sure is satisfying.
As an alternative (since you were apparently more fit than this individual) rather than an open letter, next time ride up next to the guy and chat him up while he's wheezing. It's just a way to say "you're not so fast" without actually saying it.
Also, a lot of people get hacked about wheel suckers. I don't like them either, but you have two choices:
1) Back off just a little, and they'll come around. Then you can let them go, or return the favor.
2) Drop 'em (my favorite). I'm not as fit now as when I raced, so it's not quite as easy as it used to be, but it sure is satisfying.
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OP, you're nicer than I am; when that rider said, "watch your etiquette, buddy", my automatic reaction would have been, "Watch your f***in' mouth".
Woodway, I'd have either:
a.) ignored him totally, while speeding up out of his capability; or
b.) brake-checked him.
Woodway, I'd have either:
a.) ignored him totally, while speeding up out of his capability; or
b.) brake-checked him.
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Dear Guy on the Cantilever Brake- and Road Shifter-Equipped Trek,
I see by your shaved legs and somewhat high cadence that you too enjoy riding quickly. I commend you for it. I would note, however, that a love of speed means neither that you are the final arbiter of others' actions nor that you are particularly fast.
Telling me to watch my "etiquette" in beating you off the line after we had stopped for crossing traffic is rather silly, given that I gave you some six feet of room in doing so, and especially given that in the Boston area, there is no bicycling etiquette followed by anybody. Were there actually any rules of the road on point, I would surely have followed them; there were none, however, and I did not. I simply noted that you were accelerating slowly and that there was a lot of room on the right. Moreover, you certainly did not follow any code of conduct when you decided to sprint to catch up with and pace me later - a mere 2 feet to my left - when I had already indicated that I was trying to merge into the lane to my left. Hypocrisy does not sit well with me, nor should it with anyone.
Such hypocrisy was regrettably only further illustrated when you blew past me while I was stopped at a red light one quarter mile up the road. I can find no justification for chiding me for breaking unwritten rules, while flaunting those duly enacted by the General Court of the Commonwealth.
Lack of justification notwithstanding, I do understand why you felt the need to do so. It can't be easy to go through the pains of shaving your legs regularly, and by your breathing rate and perspiration when I first came upon you, it's certain that you were giving it your all. To then have someone like me pass you with ease between signals must be frustrating. If I too had what can only be an inferiority complex, the thought of gaining an "advantage" in the "race" would have been an obvious move, though still one lacking in sense.
I therefore implore you to think about the disconnect between your words and your actions and to work on getting that cadence up. Road cycling, after all, is more an endurance event than a sprint.
Yours Truly,
The Guy on the 14 year-old Cannondale
I see by your shaved legs and somewhat high cadence that you too enjoy riding quickly. I commend you for it. I would note, however, that a love of speed means neither that you are the final arbiter of others' actions nor that you are particularly fast.
Telling me to watch my "etiquette" in beating you off the line after we had stopped for crossing traffic is rather silly, given that I gave you some six feet of room in doing so, and especially given that in the Boston area, there is no bicycling etiquette followed by anybody. Were there actually any rules of the road on point, I would surely have followed them; there were none, however, and I did not. I simply noted that you were accelerating slowly and that there was a lot of room on the right. Moreover, you certainly did not follow any code of conduct when you decided to sprint to catch up with and pace me later - a mere 2 feet to my left - when I had already indicated that I was trying to merge into the lane to my left. Hypocrisy does not sit well with me, nor should it with anyone.
Such hypocrisy was regrettably only further illustrated when you blew past me while I was stopped at a red light one quarter mile up the road. I can find no justification for chiding me for breaking unwritten rules, while flaunting those duly enacted by the General Court of the Commonwealth.
Lack of justification notwithstanding, I do understand why you felt the need to do so. It can't be easy to go through the pains of shaving your legs regularly, and by your breathing rate and perspiration when I first came upon you, it's certain that you were giving it your all. To then have someone like me pass you with ease between signals must be frustrating. If I too had what can only be an inferiority complex, the thought of gaining an "advantage" in the "race" would have been an obvious move, though still one lacking in sense.
I therefore implore you to think about the disconnect between your words and your actions and to work on getting that cadence up. Road cycling, after all, is more an endurance event than a sprint.
Yours Truly,
The Guy on the 14 year-old Cannondale
How many times DID you come upon him?
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