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Old 04-23-11, 09:29 PM
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Yeah, that rim is toast.

His joke that was you could fix it with a ballpeen hammer, channel locks, and a file. But you really can't, so you should also buy a rim.
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Originally Posted by Flatballer
Yeah, that rim is toast.

His joke that was you could fix it with a ballpeen hammer, channel locks, and a file. But you really can't, so you should also buy a rim.
What about JB Weld?
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I'd trash the rim. Even if I got it straight and even looking I wouldn't trust it. Speaking of rims, I replaced a broken spoke on my Zipp 404 last night, but I can't get the dang spoke nipple from the broken spoke out of the rim despite my most concerted shaking efforts. Guess I'll have to hacksaw the rim in half to get it out.
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Old 04-24-11, 08:32 AM
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if you haven't seen it yet, watch LBL - simply stunning.
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Originally Posted by mcjimbosandwich
s!ht, in addition, the the flat, i think my rim is trashed...


what's the consensus?
That ain't going to buff out.

So - had a new one yesterday. Cat 3 race up behind the cheese curtain. Swarmed with Local behemouth iscorp. They have a junior rider talking trash to everyone in the cat 3 race (DUDE WTF I'M ON YOUR RIGHT! MOVE OVER!) to more than one Chicago guy. All say this kid was a head case. A guy on my team makes arm contact with him. Kid flips his lid, takes a few pedal strokes then chops his front wheel.

My guy grabs the kid by the jersey and tells him never to do that again.

After the race the kid's father runs over while my rider is clipped in yelling at him that if he ever touches his kid again he's "going to kill" him. Grabs my rider pushes him over on the ground and starts throwing haymakers.

Local race's reaction? Overheard ISCorp families "well - that's what you get for touching a junior". Wisconsin seems to think assault at a bike race is cool. They send the guy home to hide from the cops. No one will tell us his name even though they all know exactly who it is. Finally the cops get them to tell us. Pathetic. I can't believe I am writing this but it's time for Wisconsin kids to go back to soccer and to stay out of cycling if they can't control their parents.
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^ okay, i take it back. if you want stunning AND complex - watch bike racing in wisconsin.
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Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy
prosecute.
exactly. I was in disbelief while reading that. Use our fantastic tort laws and bankrupt the f***ers.

Alternatively, the kid should get the Cinzano treatment while idling training on some bucolic Wisconsin roads.
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Old 04-24-11, 11:21 AM
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Wow...

In other news, it is a beautiful day for a ride on the east coast. I headed out in the morning wearing knee warmers and arm warmers expecting temps in the mid 50's. It was 70 after half an hour. Beautiful.

Best part was sitting in concord center watching everyone come out of the church in their sunday best. Some of them were wearing their friday night bests. I had no idea people wore that stuff to church, but I support it!
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it's been a great easter so far! 3 hours in the pouring rain (i love rainy rides). This was my first ride since my crash, and my shoulder and hand didnt hurt too bad during the ride. now time to eat a bunch of chocolate
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track got canceled this afternoon, so I'm going through the bikes & working on them.

Race bike: one shifter body needs adjusted slightly, brake levers need to move a bit further away from the bars, CLEAN IT
TT bike: one arm rest needs rotated a bit
Backup Road bike: bars taken off, tape removed, residue removed
Track bike: saddle height & fore/aft position adjusted, bars from back-up road bike moved to track bike
Commuter Bike: fenders adjusted, saddle position adjusted
Various wheels: tyres replaced, tubes replaced, tube patching

yeah - plenty to do / getting done.
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Old 04-24-11, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Nate552
I'd trash the rim. Even if I got it straight and even looking I wouldn't trust it. Speaking of rims, I replaced a broken spoke on my Zipp 404 last night, but I can't get the dang spoke nipple from the broken spoke out of the rim despite my most concerted shaking efforts. Guess I'll have to hacksaw the rim in half to get it out.
Wrap some two sided tape around a piece of wire and run it up the valve hole. Shake.

Worked for me more than once.
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Originally Posted by Racer Ex
Wrap some two sided tape around a piece of wire and run it up the valve hole. Shake.

Worked for me more than once.
I covered the broken spoke with gorilla glue and tried to get it that way. I think I just ended up glueing the nipple to the rim somewhere because this morning I can't get it to rattle. Oh well.
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Old 04-24-11, 08:17 PM
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I have bruises on my forearms from sprinting...

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Old 04-24-11, 08:43 PM
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mikey, I got those once. I find that if you concentrate on getting more aero when sprinting you don't get the bruises because you are bending your arms more.
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Old 04-24-11, 09:21 PM
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Today was the memorial ride for my friend and the start was very somber and sad. Once the ride started, it was a slow pace until the first descent when a young guy sprinted down the wet canyon. Our club president took off after him on his cross bike (complete with knobbies) and crashed in the first big turn. He eventually got going again but is pretty banged up.
Weird day.
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Hope he heals fast.
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Originally Posted by mike868y
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Old 04-25-11, 06:29 AM
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No-so-cute-but-kinda-funny Kid Story:

My daughter told me this one on the way home yesterday. She and her cousins were out looking for caterpillars at the in-laws. Her one cousin, a little girl, found one and said, "Ooh that's a big one." The little girls younger brother, who is 4 years old, piped up and said, "What? The caterpillar or my penis?"
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Originally Posted by mcjimbosandwich
s!ht, in addition, the the flat, i think my rim is trashed...

what's the consensus?
If it helps any, I have a couple of those in my last front rim, and I rode it for five years. Read the disclaimer in my sig before reading further. Also, stop reading now, and don't do anything I say below. Someone report this post so the mods delete it, then forget you ever saw it.

Take the wheel and set the bad spot on a sturdy wooden work bench. Support the rim so that the braking surface is parallel to the bench. Grab a piece of 1x2 and stick the end of it on the bad spot, pointing down to the bench, tipped a bit to get past the upper braking surface.

Hammer the poop out of the board until you get the rim bent back straight again. When the end of the board gets marred, flip it around, and if that doesn't hold up, cut off 1/4" for a new tool surface. If you mess up the "support the rim parallel" part, and the rim bends outward a little bit, grab a flat piece of hardwood (pine won't work for this), and lay it on the braking surface, touching as much of the rim as possible. Strike the board in the middle with a hammer, directly over the portion that's proud of the surface.

You will end up with a very slight brake grab, but that never cost me any noticeable traction (including some rainy crit wins). If the grab is due to a recess in the braking surface, there's not much you can do about it. If it's a raised portion, wrap some 150 grit paper around a board to make a sanding block, and sand the area with as much of the paper touching the rim as flatly as possible. Sand following the rim arc.

Then, in the morning, when you wake up and realize that it was just a dream, and you didn't do all the stupid stuff above, order a new rim and build it up. The spokes are fine.

Seriously though, I've done this with several rims.
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Had a nice weekend even though I've been feeling under the weather lately. Spent Thursday night, Friday, Saturday morning, and Sunday with The Girl. Dyed Easter eggs with my mom on Saturday morning, then Sunday was Easter dinner with my extended family. They liked The Girl and she liked them, a good time was had by all.

Now it's Monday morning and I'm back at work, still feeling like crap. I've had this head cold for weeks now. I think it's allergies probably (apparently I live in the 3rd worst city in the country for allergies).
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Originally Posted by waterrockets
If it helps any, I have a couple of those in my last front rim, and I rode it for five years. Read the disclaimer in my sig before reading further. Also, stop reading now, and don't do anything I say below. Someone report this post so the mods delete it, then forget you ever saw it.

Take the wheel and set the bad spot on a sturdy wooden work bench. Support the rim so that the braking surface is parallel to the bench. Grab a piece of 1x2 and stick the end of it on the bad spot, pointing down to the bench, tipped a bit to get past the upper braking surface.

Hammer the poop out of the board until you get the rim bent back straight again. When the end of the board gets marred, flip it around, and if that doesn't hold up, cut off 1/4" for a new tool surface. If you mess up the "support the rim parallel" part, and the rim bends outward a little bit, grab a flat piece of hardwood (pine won't work for this), and lay it on the braking surface, touching as much of the rim as possible. Strike the board in the middle with a hammer, directly over the portion that's proud of the surface.

You will end up with a very slight brake grab, but that never cost me any noticeable traction (including some rainy crit wins). If the grab is due to a recess in the braking surface, there's not much you can do about it. If it's a raised portion, wrap some 150 grit paper around a board to make a sanding block, and sand the area with as much of the paper touching the rim as flatly as possible. Sand following the rim arc.

Then, in the morning, when you wake up and realize that it was just a dream, and you didn't do all the stupid stuff above, order a new rim and build it up. The spokes are fine.

Seriously though, I've done this with several rims.
WR, that is amazing. Thanks for writing this down. I actually think i'd be fine with it if it were my front rim. In which case, i may just ask the lbs to straighten it out and use it to practice wheel building.

Unfortunately, i blew up the disclaimer and have decided to get a new rim from our residential wheel builder. I had wanted to do this for a while anyway, and this just gives me the justification to do so. I now wonder if i should always have a back up for events like this. After all, i have back up parts for everything on my drive train.

When i have more time, i'll surely come back and read this again.

PS. Couldn't you delete the post yourself as you are a mod? Or would that just warp the 33 out of the space-time continuum?
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Originally Posted by mike868y
I have bruises on my forearms from sprinting...
Crit bend bars. Or FSA Compacts (I think). I'm considering the FSAs.

fwiw I get those when I'm on form. I haven't gotten them in a while.

Hm. I was kind of on form last year, but not in a sprinting sense (my sprint was still piss poor). I don't know if I'll hit the bars now with the longer top tube. You think you may need a longer top tube?
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Old 04-25-11, 07:37 AM
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Jim, do you need a rear wheel in the meantime? I've got a few extras laying around that you're welcome to use...they don't have PT hubs but they will keep you rolling.
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Originally Posted by waterrockets
Take the wheel and set the bad spot on a sturdy wooden work bench. Support the rim so that the braking surface is parallel to the bench. Grab a piece of 1x2 and stick the end of it on the bad spot, pointing down to the bench, tipped a bit to get past the upper braking surface.

Hammer the poop out of the board until you get the rim bent back straight again. When the end of the board gets marred, flip it around, and if that doesn't hold up, cut off 1/4" for a new tool surface. If you mess up the "support the rim parallel" part, and the rim bends outward a little bit, grab a flat piece of hardwood (pine won't work for this), and lay it on the braking surface, touching as much of the rim as possible. Strike the board in the middle with a hammer, directly over the portion that's proud of the surface.

You will end up with a very slight brake grab, but that never cost me any noticeable traction (including some rainy crit wins). If the grab is due to a recess in the braking surface, there's not much you can do about it. If it's a raised portion, wrap some 150 grit paper around a board to make a sanding block, and sand the area with as much of the paper touching the rim as flatly as possible. Sand following the rim arc.

Then, in the morning, when you wake up and realize that it was just a dream, and you didn't do all the stupid stuff above, order a new rim and build it up. The spokes are fine.

Seriously though, I've done this with several rims.
I've done all kinds of similar repairs over the years to wheels (flat spots, dings), frames (re-welding aluminum, re-brazing steel, straightening forks) etc ..... Things can be fixed more often than we think. If it doesn't work, you just spent a little time learning & practicing for next time.
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