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Where's the book?
Where's the book? on 'How to reason and build a bicycle'?
I've seen hundreds of shopping and/or wish lists and as many recommendations but none mean anything but words to me. I have a degree in industrial mechanics. If there is a 'How To' book on how to build a touring bike, I need it badly. Then I could make sense of these shopping list. Does this book or web page exists? Evey thing here are resources AFTER you have the basics. Where are the basics?
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I've seen hundreds of shopping and/or wish lists and as many recommendations but none mean anything but words to me. I have a degree in industrial mechanics. If there is a 'How To' book on how to build a touring bike, I need it badly. Then I could make sense of these shopping list. Does this book or web page exists? Evey thing here are resources AFTER you have the basics. Where are the basics?
Thanks gang!
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I know, right? I'm in the same conundrum, although I don't have any background in mechanics whatsoever. I am having specific issues, namely dealing with putting on a headset and figuring out how long to leave my steering tube.
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There is no guide to the 'perfect touring bicycle'. A touring bike is different things to different people and range from a cyclist with a backpack on a FG to the two wheeled version of a Clydesdale horse.
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There is no book, only experience. When I first got into cycling, I bought a bike off the showroom floor and rode it for a while. Didn't like a few things, so I changed them. Didn't like a couple of the changes, so I changed them again. When I got around to touring, I essentially did the same thing: bought a frame, bolted some components to it, rode it for a while, then made a few changes before I left on my first tour.
It's also important to realize that you don't have to obsess over everything. Sure, you can find guys with too much time on their hands who'll debate ad nauseum the differences in cables or handlebar tape. Even so, there are a bunch of parts I rarely spend time worrying about, including the headset, cables, bottom bracket, stem, bar tape, and to some degree brakes and seatpost. Grab the right size from some recognizable brand and move on to the stuff that matters.
It's also important to realize that you don't have to obsess over everything. Sure, you can find guys with too much time on their hands who'll debate ad nauseum the differences in cables or handlebar tape. Even so, there are a bunch of parts I rarely spend time worrying about, including the headset, cables, bottom bracket, stem, bar tape, and to some degree brakes and seatpost. Grab the right size from some recognizable brand and move on to the stuff that matters.
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Better to use small gears in front and big gears in back or larger gears up front and not so large in back?
What math to figure if a chain will be too long or too short?
How to I choose for different geometry? Why titanium? Why not? Sidewall construction? Load bearing members. Width for wheels AND rear sprockets and how to calculate chain departures/binding on paper. How are crank sets made? .....and about a thousand other questions like these.
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There is no book, only experience. When I first got into cycling, I bought a bike off the showroom floor and rode it for a while. Didn't like a few things, so I changed them. Didn't like a couple of the changes, so I changed them again. When I got around to touring, I essentially did the same thing: bought a frame, bolted some components to it, rode it for a while, then made a few changes before I left on my first tour.
It's also important to realize that you don't have to obsess over everything. Sure, you can find guys with too much time on their hands who'll debate ad nauseum the differences in cables or handlebar tape. Even so, there are a bunch of parts I rarely spend time worrying about, including the headset, cables, bottom bracket, stem, bar tape, and to some degree brakes and seatpost. Grab the right size from some recognizable brand and move on to the stuff that matters.
It's also important to realize that you don't have to obsess over everything. Sure, you can find guys with too much time on their hands who'll debate ad nauseum the differences in cables or handlebar tape. Even so, there are a bunch of parts I rarely spend time worrying about, including the headset, cables, bottom bracket, stem, bar tape, and to some degree brakes and seatpost. Grab the right size from some recognizable brand and move on to the stuff that matters.
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If you have a technical background and want some reading material, I would start with The Bicycle Wheel by Jobst Brant. The wheels are the most important part of a reliable bicycle, and the least understood.
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If you have a technical background and want some reading material, I would start with The Bicycle Wheel by Jobst Brant. The wheels are the most important part of a reliable bicycle, and the least understood.
Sheldon Brown and a fellow here with the handle of cyccommute I think. Great food.
I will look into Jobst Brant. Thank you very much.
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I understand this completely. The questions I need answers to is several hundred like these:
Better to use small gears in front and big gears in back or larger gears up front and not so large in back?
-For loaded touring an acceptable range is 20-95 gear inches.
What math to figure if a chain will be too long or too short?
-Because chainstay lengths differ the chain is a 'to fit' item/
How to I choose for different geometry?
-Loaded touring frames are in the 71-73 degree range and also depends on the fork kick out. This is to provide stability when loaded with gear.
Why titanium? Why not?
-Ti tends to be flexy unless starting with a 6Al recipe.
Sidewall construction?
-Which sidewall?
Load bearing members.
-An off the shelf touring frame can be loaded beyond what's practical to pedal. Carriers usually have a load limit.
Width for wheels
-17.5-18 mm inner width to mount 28-40 mm tires
AND rear sprockets and how to calculate chain departures/binding on paper.
- I've no answer
How are crank sets made?
-Generally machined propriatory cast aluminum
.....and about a thousand other questions like these.
Brad
Better to use small gears in front and big gears in back or larger gears up front and not so large in back?
-For loaded touring an acceptable range is 20-95 gear inches.
What math to figure if a chain will be too long or too short?
-Because chainstay lengths differ the chain is a 'to fit' item/
How to I choose for different geometry?
-Loaded touring frames are in the 71-73 degree range and also depends on the fork kick out. This is to provide stability when loaded with gear.
Why titanium? Why not?
-Ti tends to be flexy unless starting with a 6Al recipe.
Sidewall construction?
-Which sidewall?
Load bearing members.
-An off the shelf touring frame can be loaded beyond what's practical to pedal. Carriers usually have a load limit.
Width for wheels
-17.5-18 mm inner width to mount 28-40 mm tires
AND rear sprockets and how to calculate chain departures/binding on paper.
- I've no answer
How are crank sets made?
-Generally machined propriatory cast aluminum
.....and about a thousand other questions like these.
Brad
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I understand this completely. The questions I need answers to is several hundred like these:
Better to use small gears in front and big gears in back or larger gears up front and not so large in back?
What math to figure if a chain will be too long or too short?
How to I choose for different geometry? Why titanium? Why not? Sidewall construction? Load bearing members. Width for wheels AND rear sprockets and how to calculate chain departures/binding on paper. How are crank sets made? .....and about a thousand other questions like these.
Better to use small gears in front and big gears in back or larger gears up front and not so large in back?
What math to figure if a chain will be too long or too short?
How to I choose for different geometry? Why titanium? Why not? Sidewall construction? Load bearing members. Width for wheels AND rear sprockets and how to calculate chain departures/binding on paper. How are crank sets made? .....and about a thousand other questions like these.
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This most recent Rivendell Reader has a really good description of frame geometry, how each angle affects the ride, and how they relate to each other. Starts on page 8. It might help some. https://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloa...ginal_RR43.pdf
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This most recent Rivendell Reader has a really good description of frame geometry, how each angle affects the ride, and how they relate to each other. Starts on page 8. It might help some. https://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloa...ginal_RR43.pdf