Sherblock

Both right.

sillygolem

Note that tires have way more effect than wheels on ride quality.

miknugget

+1 that they're theoretically stronger. I run some cheap 36-spoke 30mm Vs right now that I got for $140 off ebay (with formula sealed cartridge hubs) because I expected them to require less truing and spoke replacement than my previous wheelset. They are tougher than I had even hoped for them to be. My previous (32h front and rear) wheelset was always going out of true and breaking spokes, even after tensioning. I've only had to adjust 3 spokes (all at the same time) on the front wheel once in the last 1.5 years on the 36-spoke Vs, after hitting a nasty pothole at high speed. I commute daily in DC and can't avoid tons of potholes, bumps, etc. The roads in DC are atrocious and remind of roads I've seen in Africa.

General disadvantages:
Weight
Increased angular momentum
Limited tire selection (I may be wrong, but I think most Vs will only adequately fit tires within a certain range of widths. I run 700x25)

hamish5178

wat

Scrodzilla

Yeah, that's ridiculous.

catonec 

My campy zondas are a 28 up front and 24 in back and I can feel the crosswinds pushing my front wheel all over the place, I couldnt imagine having 50's.

Scrodzilla

Who is even talking about 50s? Velocity Deep Vs (the real Deep Vs) are 30mm deep.

thirdgenbird

how much do you weigh? my eurus wheels feel fine in a crosswind.

catonec 

170 ish

thirdgenbird

I'm about 175. Maybe I'm just used to deeper wheels,

hairnet

Disadvantage: a freaking pain in the ass to lace becuase you can drop nipples into the rim and then you have the rattle them out

Scrodzilla

I've never had that happen. Do you use tools?

SSbalt

Tools are for *******...

TejanoTrackie 

I use one of those slotted screw holder thingies to feed the nipple onto the spoke and get it started before using a spoke driver tool. Otherwise, it would be nealy impossible to do the job on anything but plain box rims.

Scrodzilla

I've got one where the nipple actually clicks into the driver, making losing a nipple damn near impossible. If you don't have a driver, you can always just use a spoke threaded into the wrong end of the nipple to keep it from falling inside.

Scrodzilla

So are orange tires.

homebrewk

RoboIsGod

I've been wanting to address the fixie/SS communities use of deep section rims for a while but haven't yet. Here it is:

Assuming you are riding on the street and commuting/riding everyday/shredding like most of us do, deep section rim's...

-WILL SLOW YOU DOWN. More rotational mass at the rim means slower spin up meaning slower acceleration. Deep rims WILL climb slower. Using lighter spokes/hubs have almost no impact on the spin up of a wheel - what matters is the rim.

-GIVE NO AERO ADVANTAGE. Deem section rim's only give advantage at high speeds sustained for longer periods of time. Riding through busy streets and sprinting around will never garner this aero advantage.

-ARE HEAVIER. Like I said previously, a heavy rim will spin up slower. A heavier bike, it can be argued, will go slower in general as well.

-The idea that they are "stronger" is somewhat true but misleading. Yes a deeper rim will flex less and can sustain higher impacts, but unless you are a very heavy person or are jumping stairs (which I understand some people do), a deeper rim won't be necessary. Mavic Open Pro's are an extremely strong rim and can take most if not all what Deep V's can (unless, that is, you are jumping stairs).

Basically any normal/low section rim with a traditional 32 spoke pattern will spin up faster, be lighter, and be as strong as any deep section rim (especially Deep V's).

TejanoTrackie 

Hater.

cruiserhead

Deep V's are what...500grams? Open Pros are around 460grams?
Difference in weight=
That's like 2 fun size packs of plain M&M's difference.

Put Conti race tires on Deep V's and Thickslicks on Open Pros: Open pro wheels could be over 200grams heavier than Deep V's depending on what you run, anyway, who cares?
This sounds like a road racing weight weenie discussion.
Both are good quality, cheap and good looking. Get whatever wheels you are happy with.

What's going to make you fast or slow is your legs and lungs.

TejanoTrackie 

520gm and 440gm. Velocity Chukkers are 650gm, DP18's are 687gm and B43's are 770gm. So, yes, Velocity Deep V's are pretty lightweight in comparison with other deep section rims. My roadie training wheels are Deep V tubulars, and I can hardly tell the difference with shallow V section clinchers.

bhop

I got doored a few weeks ago and my deep v is still true after hitting the door. That's one advantage I guess..

trevor_ash

I hate deep V's. I've hated them for years. Never owned a pair though so I've always kept my mouth shut. I just hated them because everywhere I looked I saw them. And I also thought the colors were ridiculous. Recently, for reasons that escape me now, I attempted to come up with facts for why they are bad...

...I was unable to find any. I thought these rims were heavy, they're not. I thought they were over priced (for what I thought they were) they're not.

I still hate them, but now it's more of a "you're so stupid for being ignorant and judging without knowing anything" personal hate directed at myself.

That is all.

stryper

Why would you want Velocity deep v's these days when Kinlins are 60 grams lighter per rim?

TejanoTrackie 

Better color / pattern choices ?