Ferrous Bueller

Not particularly, but doing better than their neighbo(u)rs to the south.

apricissimus 

That's great and everything, but I don't see why any of that should apply to other people riding through their neighborhoods.

agent pombero

Ain't nothing wrong with a big booty Judy

Keith99

I work with an observant Jew.

He is long gone today. He takes no chances with no tmaking it home before sundown.

DRIVING on Shabbat is not permitted. Van driver has no case based on Shabbat.

BTW here in California where people are civilized I saw exactly how a VERY observant Jew can interact on Shabbat. The Orange Line bike path goes through a heavily Jewish area (actually at least 2 such areas, it is a long path). In one I came to a light one Saturday. One of the 2 Jewish men standing at the light (and light in a low traffic area, meaning no button pushed equals long wait) simply said 'I have not pushed the button'. I being an educated gentile knew exactly what that meant. He had not and would not as it would break his view of the Law. I only regret not asking him if the phrasing was intentional with the view of making sure it could not be considered a request that I push it for him. Which a very strict interpretation could be seen as causing me to labor on his behalf on the Sabbath. That could be interpreted as violating the Law.

kalliergo 

Good story. You were a passerby Sh***** goy.

Those folks in Williamsburg could learn from you and the two guys at the light.

WhyFi

What, no Shabbat lights? A mistake that I made exactly once - getting in to a Shabbat elevator.

B. Carfree

That video was like a cartoon. Once the fat guy got out and tried to play tough I would have likely hurt myself either by causing a hernia from overly hard laughing, by falling down laughing or by trying to hold my guffaws in. Really, no one was in any danger there. It was just egos at play. That was confirmed by the fact that the driver didn't pin the cyclist on any of those right-side passes. He just wanted to play tough-guy.

That said, it always dismays me how many self-righteous motorists are certain that cyclists have no right to operate on the road and that they have some right to "teach them a lesson". Don't these people ever have any self-doubt that would cause them to look these things up?

kalliergo 

Without dinging his minivan.

Hardly ever. Dunning-Kruger.

B. Carfree

Thanks for the link. It reminds me of that feeling my classmates and I had while studying for orals in grad. school. We all feared that we were about to be outed as ignorant frauds.

kalliergo 

Right -- while the real problem is with the confident, clueless crowd that has always been certain that all you "experts" are ignorant frauds. Sigh.

rousseau

Compared to Europeans? No. But compared to Americans, everyone's skinny. Did you see the beef on display in that video? You'd never get a dozen people that fat in one small space in Canada outside of Inuit land.

rousseau

I really, really hate religious nuts. They're irritating and scary. And completely *****ing mad.

StanSeven

I've got commuter friends that just ignore things drivers do and never have any trouble. I've got other friends that are hot heads, take the lane during rush hour because "it's their right" and have cameras "so they have proof." What's funny is we all generally travel the same routes about the same times and some have no problems while others have a lot.

Chris516

Yes, There drivers I ignore, who violate the '3ft. close passing' law, and there are those who violate that law, that tick me off.

Now, If I am on my way to an appointment, I don't have time to get emotionally 'wrapped up', in a motorist making a close pass.

Situations like two weeks ago, when I was on a 30mph road going 20mph, are when I had time. I was on my way home, only a couple blocks from my house, when a moron similar(not in passing because he didn't pass me, but in attitude) to the motorist in the video started giving me trouble. He was gunning his engine and honking at me. All just because he wanted to get to the bar faster. When I passed the bar, I saw him turn into the parking lot. I stopped and stared at him. He got out of his car and started to charge me like the guy in the video, except the bar is on the opposite side of the road. He backed down, when another bar customer in the parking lot, made it verbally clear that he needed to calm down.

In deference to motorists', I also 'take the lane' because, they can't accurately gauge three feet. Not just because the steering wheel is on the opposite side of the vehicle from where the cyclist is. The motorist can't see through the solid portion of the door, and through the body of the car to see that they are giving the cyclist enough room when passing. If cars made for the U.S/Canadian/European car markets, were instead sent to a country like England or Ireland where they drive on the left side of the road, it would be dandy, and vice versa. That problem didn't start until, open cars like the Model T Ford were done away, in favor of 'hard body' closed cars. Not saying the automotive industry should revert back to them, for cyclists' safety. But that cyclists' should be more virulent and adamant about their safety. Which is why from my experiences of being hit, that I need to get a camera.

Chris516

Orthodox Jews and Hasidic Jews, are not one and the same.

Now this thread should be moved to P&R. Because it has no longer been about cycling.