View Poll Results: Do you litter during rides or trash it later?
never litter
106
89.83%
depends where it is
8
6.78%
i'm a litter bug
2
1.69%
i am racing so it's ok (whatever!)
2
1.69%
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Do you litter on bike rallies?
09-15-05, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Cadd
Trust me, my blood pressure is normal. Not worked up about this. If I feel like littering, I'll do it. If I feel like carrying it to the trash can a block away, I'll do it.
As a person (in the U.S.) you are entitled to your opinion....you can express your opinion freely. But you have to remember....I have the exact rights you do. You can say whatever you want to me when you see me littering.....it won't change a thing. I'll probably litter more in front of you, on purpose, just to piss you off (since I know it bothers you). That's just the person I am.
My attitude in life is: I don't give a damn. I live for the moment. I don't care if my great great great great great grandson won't have a park to play in. You can call me selfish, but hey, I only look out for myself and the people around me that I care about.
As a person (in the U.S.) you are entitled to your opinion....you can express your opinion freely. But you have to remember....I have the exact rights you do. You can say whatever you want to me when you see me littering.....it won't change a thing. I'll probably litter more in front of you, on purpose, just to piss you off (since I know it bothers you). That's just the person I am.
My attitude in life is: I don't give a damn. I live for the moment. I don't care if my great great great great great grandson won't have a park to play in. You can call me selfish, but hey, I only look out for myself and the people around me that I care about.
09-15-05, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by dfw
One of the sad things about America is there are too many that think they way you do.
I'm not saying I go around tossing stuff on the street, in the trains, on buses, in campgrounds or on hiking trails. 95% of the time, I DON'T. But when I do, I don't want a tree-hugger to run after me.
09-15-05, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by dfw
Mylar isn't biodegradable. If you don't see what's wrong with it, you should know it's never too late to learn a bit of what it takes to have class and self respect.
09-15-05, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by slvoid
Are you sure polyethylene terephthalate isn't biodegradable?
09-15-05, 10:50 PM
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If you take earth as a closed system, I'm not really adding or removing anything from it. 
09-15-05, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by slvoid
If you take earth as a closed system, I'm not really adding or removing anything from it.
09-15-05, 11:43 PM
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Edible wrappers. There, I've done my part.
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09-16-05, 05:38 PM
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A cyclist is suppose to be a purist. He (she) rides something quiet that doesn't expend fuel while exercising, competing, meeting others, getting closer to nature and reaching destinations with the least possible disturbance to the world. Now, I don't see how a litterbug fits into this picture of someone trying to be a decent human being.
09-16-05, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by slvoid
Are you sure polyethylene terephthalate isn't biodegradable?
09-16-05, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by slvoid
If you take earth as a closed system, I'm not really adding or removing anything from it.
09-16-05, 07:11 PM
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What I want to know is this. How many of you have seen the Rocky Horror Picture Show at a midnight showing?
09-16-05, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by dfw
So you should have no problem if I let my dogs crap on your doorstep. It's biodegradeable right?
My door inside the apartment however, is locked. Feel free to break into it and if you find yourself eating a few 9mm's, don't blame me. So please, leave your dog's biodegradeables outside the door, I have no problem with that. BTW, you don't see me lecturing people global warming, burning too much gas, wasting too many resources in general, which BTW, also contributes to polluting our overall environment. Good to see so many people care so much about their tiny bit of localized environment but won't do much globally.
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09-16-05, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dfw
Powerbars use mylar wrappers. It doesn't matter if you take them out and wrap them in a latex condom. If you throw the wrapper, it's still litter.
09-16-05, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by trayer350
A cyclist is suppose to be a purist. He (she) rides something quiet that doesn't expend fuel while exercising, competing, meeting others, getting closer to nature and reaching destinations with the least possible disturbance to the world. Now, I don't see how a litterbug fits into this picture of someone trying to be a decent human being.
Shouldn't we all be riding calfee bamboo bikes then?
09-17-05, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by trayer350
A cyclist is suppose to be a purist. He (she) rides something quiet that doesn't expend fuel while exercising, competing, meeting others, getting closer to nature and reaching destinations with the least possible disturbance to the world. Now, I don't see how a litterbug fits into this picture of someone trying to be a decent human being.
Yep, nothing pure about the embodied energies involved in the production and shipment of bicycles, that's for sure.
09-17-05, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by slvoid
Am I the only one that admits to littering, running red lights and stop signs, going the wrong way down streets, riding on the sidewalk, walking into a job site full of construction workers while I'm in full spandex, etc?
Or is everyone just lying about their best behavior on bikeforums?
Or is everyone just lying about their best behavior on bikeforums?
On a race I have, or my club, paid start money. I'm not that good that I actually get paid to start.
Part of that money is for the arranger to make the road race-ready and tidy up afterwords.
Eating in 25 mph is hard enough so I don't bother to keep every bit of that chocolate paper.
I've already paid my way out of it! So yes. I litter.
09-17-05, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by dfw
So you should have no problem if I let my dogs crap on your doorstep. It's biodegradeable right?
If you want your dogs to take a crap in front of my door, I live in a building that has 40 apartments.....you have a 1 in 40 chance of getting it right. Let me give you a hint....don't mess with the dude in 4E. He's a local drug dealer that has 7 pitbulls in his apt. They'll rip your dog(s) apart in seconds.
09-17-05, 06:57 PM
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If I ever litter(always accidentally), I make sure to pick up the next ten peices of litter that I see, so I leave the place better than it was.
09-17-05, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by slvoid
Do you have any idea how many toxic byproducts there are in mass production of bike frames, carbon fiber, greases, lube, resins, tires, tubes, and the various chemicals in the paints?
Shouldn't we all be riding calfee bamboo bikes then?
Shouldn't we all be riding calfee bamboo bikes then?
So, if you oppose littering and litterbugs throwing garbage on streets and roads, you should ride a bamboo bike. That's some logic.
09-18-05, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by trayer350
So, if you oppose littering and litterbugs throwing garbage on streets and roads, you should ride a bamboo bike. That's some logic.
09-18-05, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Cadd
Trust me, my blood pressure is normal. Not worked up about this. If I feel like littering, I'll do it. If I feel like carrying it to the trash can a block away, I'll do it.
As a person (in the U.S.) you are entitled to your opinion....you can express your opinion freely. But you have to remember....I have the exact rights you do. You can say whatever you want to me when you see me littering.....it won't change a thing. I'll probably litter more in front of you, on purpose, just to piss you off (since I know it bothers you). That's just the person I am.
My attitude in life is: I don't give a damn. I live for the moment. I don't care if my great great great great great grandson won't have a park to play in. You can call me selfish, but hey, I only look out for myself and the people around me that I care about.
As a person (in the U.S.) you are entitled to your opinion....you can express your opinion freely. But you have to remember....I have the exact rights you do. You can say whatever you want to me when you see me littering.....it won't change a thing. I'll probably litter more in front of you, on purpose, just to piss you off (since I know it bothers you). That's just the person I am.
My attitude in life is: I don't give a damn. I live for the moment. I don't care if my great great great great great grandson won't have a park to play in. You can call me selfish, but hey, I only look out for myself and the people around me that I care about.
Cadd, I really feel sorry for you that you a such a miserible human being. Just ask yourself how you would fel if someone dumped a load of trash on your front lawn every day.
09-18-05, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by slvoid
Do you have any idea how many toxic byproducts there are in mass production of bike frames, carbon fiber, greases, lube, resins, tires, tubes, and the various chemicals in the paints?
Shouldn't we all be riding calfee bamboo bikes then?
Shouldn't we all be riding calfee bamboo bikes then?
09-18-05, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by spinnaker
This is really sad to thing that people truely think this way. They don't give a damn for anyone else but themselves.
Cadd, I really feel sorry for you that you a such a miserible human being. Just ask yourself how you would fel if someone dumped a load of trash on your front lawn every day.
Cadd, I really feel sorry for you that you a such a miserible human being. Just ask yourself how you would fel if someone dumped a load of trash on your front lawn every day.
09-18-05, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanW
I just dislike people saying "I hate [x group of people]" when they've only ever encountered a tiny, tiny percentage of that group and have no idea what the rest are like. But I also try to pick people up if they say "I hate Americans" just because they don;t agree with some aspect of US foreign policy. It's just brainless.
09-18-05, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Cadd
It's ok, you don't have to feel sorry for me. I'm not miserable at all. I feel great. If you want, you can come and dump a load of trash on my front lawn EVERY DAY! But you have to buy me a front lawn first....I don't have one.
No need for a lawn, so we'll dump a load of trash in your home, apartment, shack, cardboard box or wherever you live.