Front Hubs for Dummies...
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Yreka, CA, US
Posts: 392
Bikes: Fuji Aloha, ...
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Front Hubs for Dummies...
I'm looking to replace a crappy unidentifiable front hub (road bike) that is beginning to stick with something better. But, I've not got the foggiest notion what makes one hubs "better" than any other and the prices are everywhere from ~$20.00 for a Sora through ~$220 for a Record.
My personal priorities are:
What difference is there going from Dura-Ace down through Sora? Between Shimano, Phil Wood, DT Swiss, Campy, etc. Since saving grams matters not to me while surviving everything except a rogue Abrahms tank would be nice; how do I approach shopping in a market that promotes lightness above all else?
Oh, and is there any reason at all to match front and rear hubs? Aside from aesthetics, that is.
Thanks.
My personal priorities are:
- 28-36 hole
- Non-disc
- Price (I redefine cheap-ass bastard)
- Durability (touring/training not racing)
- Available in Black
- Ships with Bonus Pink Pony
- Weight
- Brand Name
What difference is there going from Dura-Ace down through Sora? Between Shimano, Phil Wood, DT Swiss, Campy, etc. Since saving grams matters not to me while surviving everything except a rogue Abrahms tank would be nice; how do I approach shopping in a market that promotes lightness above all else?
Oh, and is there any reason at all to match front and rear hubs? Aside from aesthetics, that is.
Thanks.
#2
Mr. Dopolina
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Taiwan
Posts: 10,217
Bikes: KUUPAS, Simpson VR
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 149 Post(s)
Liked 117 Times
in
41 Posts
For your needs I would suggest a Taiwanese hub with decent flange spacing and larger sized bearings. This means skip the light weight hubs with tiny #689 cartridge bearings or even #699 bearings which are durable but not really the thing for loaded touring.
For flange spacing anything over 68mm should produce a very stable wheel.
You should have no trouble finding something in the $30-$40 range just confirm that the bearings aren't cheapo Chinese fail in two month pieces of crap.
For flange spacing anything over 68mm should produce a very stable wheel.
You should have no trouble finding something in the $30-$40 range just confirm that the bearings aren't cheapo Chinese fail in two month pieces of crap.
Last edited by Bob Dopolina; 10-03-14 at 07:19 PM.
#4
just ride
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 375
Bikes: specialized roubaix, dawes sst ( steel single speed)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
#5
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Madison, AL
Posts: 693
Bikes: 2010 Felt DA, 2012/6 Felt F5, 2015 Felt AR FRD
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 27 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
2 Posts
Ive built wheels with the sora and 105 hubs; honestly, there isn't much difference between them. IF you're only looking to replace a no name hub, the $20.00 sora front hub can't be beat.
#6
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Yreka, CA, US
Posts: 392
Bikes: Fuji Aloha, ...
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
#7
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Yreka, CA, US
Posts: 392
Bikes: Fuji Aloha, ...
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I was wondering about that. It seems that there is just a few dollars between each step from Sora -> Tiagra -> 105 and then a big jump to Ultegra and Dura-Ace. It almost seems, just looking at the prices, that the only difference between the 3 entry level models is name.
#8
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Yreka, CA, US
Posts: 392
Bikes: Fuji Aloha, ...
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
For your needs I would suggest a Taiwanese hub with decent flange spacing and larger sized bearings. This means skip the light weight hubs with tiny #689 cartridge bearings or even #699 bearings which are durable but not really the thing for loaded touring.
For flange spacing anything over 68mm should produce a very stable wheel.
You should have no trouble finding something in the $30-$40 range just confirm that the bearings aren't cheapo Chinese fail in two month pieces of crap.
For flange spacing anything over 68mm should produce a very stable wheel.
You should have no trouble finding something in the $30-$40 range just confirm that the bearings aren't cheapo Chinese fail in two month pieces of crap.
#9
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Madison, AL
Posts: 693
Bikes: 2010 Felt DA, 2012/6 Felt F5, 2015 Felt AR FRD
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 27 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
2 Posts
There are minute differences, but they aren't that huge. For one, the dust covers are integrated in the sora hub, whereas on the 105 hub, they are a separate piece. Other than that, same weight, same spoke count, finish is nearly the same, ect...
I would probably go with whichever one matched the colors the best; tiagra for silver and sora / 105 for black.
I would probably go with whichever one matched the colors the best; tiagra for silver and sora / 105 for black.
#11
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Posts: 20,457
Bikes: A bunch of old bikes and a few new ones
Mentioned: 178 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5898 Post(s)
Liked 3,513 Times
in
2,094 Posts
I like cup and cone hubs but I like sealed bearing hubs a bit better. There's a lot to be said for not having to overhaul hubs.
#12
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 28,682
Bikes: 1990 Romic Reynolds 531 custom build, Merlin Works CR Ti custom build, super light Workswell 066 custom build
Mentioned: 110 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6556 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 58 Times
in
36 Posts
I think you mean cartridge bearing hubs. Most modern cup and cone systems qualify as sealed bearings.
#13
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Posts: 20,457
Bikes: A bunch of old bikes and a few new ones
Mentioned: 178 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5898 Post(s)
Liked 3,513 Times
in
2,094 Posts
#14
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 8,951
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 13 Times
in
12 Posts
If it hasn't been said already, I'll mention that in replacing hubs you'll almost certainly need new spokes unless the new hub has the exact same flange spex. That means all that's left is the rim. Is the rim you have worthy of having a new hub and spokes, or might it make more sense to just replace the entire wheel?
#15
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Yreka, CA, US
Posts: 392
Bikes: Fuji Aloha, ...
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
If it hasn't been said already, I'll mention that in replacing hubs you'll almost certainly need new spokes unless the new hub has the exact same flange spex. That means all that's left is the rim. Is the rim you have worthy of having a new hub and spokes, or might it make more sense to just replace the entire wheel?
All-in-all, the choice seems to be having the fun and learning experience of rebuilding a wheel vs the convenience of buying one. Thanks for reminding me of the this.
#16
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 8,951
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 13 Times
in
12 Posts
Yeah. But I'm not necessarily suggesting buying a new wheel, rather if you're going to go through the trouble and expense of a new hub and spokes, maybe get a new rim too.
#17
aka Tom Reingold
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: New York, NY, and High Falls, NY, USA
Posts: 40,560
Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem
Mentioned: 513 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7378 Post(s)
Liked 2,534 Times
in
1,474 Posts
You can't go wrong with Shimano, even the low level stuff. I used to dislike the brand, but their hubs have always been good.
__________________
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog
“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog
“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
#18
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Northern Ontario
Posts: 3,659
Bikes: Colnago Master XL, Bianchi Via Nirone 7, Marinoni Fango
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Just my 2 cents. If the hubs are crappy more than likely the rim is also. I would just find a whole new wheel.
#19
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Yreka, CA, US
Posts: 392
Bikes: Fuji Aloha, ...
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Sorry to sound like an idiot; but, I require edification in this area.