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We're having a Chinook here in Calgary, so temps are currently 9C. I decided to take the road bike out instead of the winter bike with studs--that was a mistake. 95% of my ride this morning was dry pavement, but 5% was sheer ice. I fell thrice but only at about speeds of 5 km/h. The last two I was actually laughing on my way down. Hopefully the ice will be gone for the ride back home tonight.
I'll probably use the winter bike tomorrow.
I'll probably use the winter bike tomorrow.
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No riding in the snow for me in general. So I totally understand the OP turning back in those conditions. I pushed it a bit today cycling in across the GWB. It usually still has some snow and/or ice even with the light dusting we got in NY/NJ yesterday. The commute today was ok since the roads were clear. Only scary point was the GWB south sidewalk ramp on the NY side. It had a thin sheet of ice on most of it. So I went ultra slow and kept a foot out of the pedal when I went down that part. For the rest of the bridge sidewalk, I usually use 90 psi on 700x23 tires and stay in the drops for lower center of gravity and more stability.
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Any snow and/or ice I drive. I'll be 62 next month and don't heal the way I used to. Too much downside. I will ride in single digit temperatures on dry pavement so I'm not a complete wuss.
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It's a different situation in Southern California. There's no snow, and we've been in drought conditions for quite a while now. The problem is, when it does rain, cage drivers do not know what to do and it becomes very dangerous to be anything smaller than a mid-size sedan on the roads. In light of this, I don't ride to work in anything more than a light rain.
Snow sounds like a total bummer to ride in.
Snow sounds like a total bummer to ride in.
But that said, I'm dedicated to a life of bicycling many miles regularly. If I lived in an area where it snows a lot, you can bet I would learn how to deal with it. I think it would be a fun challenge. And much safer in an area where it snows regularly than anywhere around here.
I could also see learning how to deal with snow on tours. It's just that I haven't been at it long enough to run low on places I'd like to go where the weather is more temperate and to my liking.
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I finally gave up on commuting by bike regardless one day when there was a good 6 inches of very heavy wet snow. I was having to pedal hard to go DOWN hills, and I had to walk the bike up the hills. I got about 2 miles from home, said "what the F am I doing?" turned around and went home and drove.
These days I commute maybe 3 days a week in the winter. So far I've lucked out and I'm still riding the road bike, the roads are still dry.
These days I commute maybe 3 days a week in the winter. So far I've lucked out and I'm still riding the road bike, the roads are still dry.
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But that said, I'm dedicated to a life of bicycling many miles regularly. If I lived in an area where it snows a lot, you can bet I would learn how to deal with it. I think it would be a fun challenge. And much safer in an area where it snows regularly than anywhere around here.
There are times when you just have say f@#k it. It's not worth it. Hence this thread.
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Now 52, I don't ride in snow and cold that I used to relish in my 20s and 30s. First I don't heal as fast as I used to. Secondly it's the damn foolish drivers. When it's really icy my wife and I take the bus. We call it 2-dollar car insurance. They can't hit your car while it's in the garage (well, they can, actually). I thought about getting a trike for the snow and ice, but I've seen some videos of guys slipping and sliding in those and of course you can't control other drivers. On the other hand I know from tsl and other winter cyclists blogs I've read that there is a smart way to do it if I really wanted to (which I sometimes want to do just to prove I can). My current low temp threshhold is 23F, but I'm thinking I might do 18F the next chance I get. But not snow and not ice, I don't have the tires for it anymore.
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I won't ride on any roads once it's snowed and until its melted. I've seen too many cars sliding completely out of control. Even safe drivers loose control sometimes. It's not worth it for me. It's also a lot more of a pain for drivers to deal with slow bicycle riders in snowy/slushy conditions than dry.
Fortunately I can get many places (cafe's, grocery, hardware store, wine store, etc.) on paths and our city does a pretty good job of keeping them below a couple of inches or so between about 5a and 11p so snow is usually not a problem, but if they can't keep up and the paths had 4" I'd likely not ride unless it was really lite powder. I do have Schwalbe Marathon Winter's on which help with ice and hard pack. Depending on wind I'll also use alternatives if it's below about 0 to 10f.
Fortunately I can get many places (cafe's, grocery, hardware store, wine store, etc.) on paths and our city does a pretty good job of keeping them below a couple of inches or so between about 5a and 11p so snow is usually not a problem, but if they can't keep up and the paths had 4" I'd likely not ride unless it was really lite powder. I do have Schwalbe Marathon Winter's on which help with ice and hard pack. Depending on wind I'll also use alternatives if it's below about 0 to 10f.
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Fresh snow is the scariest condition for me. Those are pretty much the only days I don't ride. It'll be way better tomorrow!
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As much as I would love to be able to commute by bicycle all year round today was the day that I had to draw the line.
Overnight some 10cm of snow had fallen. I deliberated for a good 10 minutes as to whether or not to ride. I made the decision to do it. Got all my gear on. Got out the foul weather bike with the 35mm spiked tires and fenders. The roads had not been cleared. I rode for about 1km and then decided to turn back. The bike was too unstable, even at low speed. I had to hang on to the handlebar quite tightly. The back end was also all over the place. I decided it was too dangerous and wasn't worth the risk. This is my limit.
So those of you who have to commute a good 10+miles, how do you deal with it under these conditions?
Overnight some 10cm of snow had fallen. I deliberated for a good 10 minutes as to whether or not to ride. I made the decision to do it. Got all my gear on. Got out the foul weather bike with the 35mm spiked tires and fenders. The roads had not been cleared. I rode for about 1km and then decided to turn back. The bike was too unstable, even at low speed. I had to hang on to the handlebar quite tightly. The back end was also all over the place. I decided it was too dangerous and wasn't worth the risk. This is my limit.
So those of you who have to commute a good 10+miles, how do you deal with it under these conditions?
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It ain't fun to ride in the snow. I can tell you that. And even less so when there are cars passing you not two feet away and you have to wrestle the handle bar to keep the bike from contacting said cars and the back end of your bike is all squirrely.
There are times when you just have say f@#k it. It's not worth it. Hence this thread.
There are times when you just have say f@#k it. It's not worth it. Hence this thread.
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congrats on having the courage and wisdom to break that streak - at some point they transition from an accomplishment to an obsession/burden leading to no good end
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As much as I would love to be able to commute by bicycle all year round today was the day that I had to draw the line.
Overnight some 10cm of snow had fallen. I deliberated for a good 10 minutes as to whether or not to ride. I made the decision to do it. Got all my gear on. Got out the foul weather bike with the 35mm spiked tires and fenders. The roads had not been cleared. I rode for about 1km and then decided to turn back. The bike was too unstable, even at low speed. I had to hang on to the handlebar quite tightly. The back end was also all over the place. I decided it was too dangerous and wasn't worth the risk. This is my limit.
So those of you who have to commute a good 10+miles, how do you deal with it under these conditions?
Overnight some 10cm of snow had fallen. I deliberated for a good 10 minutes as to whether or not to ride. I made the decision to do it. Got all my gear on. Got out the foul weather bike with the 35mm spiked tires and fenders. The roads had not been cleared. I rode for about 1km and then decided to turn back. The bike was too unstable, even at low speed. I had to hang on to the handlebar quite tightly. The back end was also all over the place. I decided it was too dangerous and wasn't worth the risk. This is my limit.
So those of you who have to commute a good 10+miles, how do you deal with it under these conditions?
I understand. And you were right.
I rode my bike on a snowy day several years ago and while the roads were cleared on the main streets, the quieter side streets were a mess. Somehow I managed to pedal the upper portion of Poplar Plains Road even though it was choked with snow. I had an 8km commute home and the last 2 km I pushed the bike thru the snow. I've tried riding on snow filled streets and it takes forever, the rear wheel slides around like a drunken sailor, and I was not enjoying myself.
Once the streets are clear, the ride is totally different.
Yours truly,
Another snow walloped Torontonian.
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There is no limit....... as long as i can make the bike go, i'll be riding.
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I don't mind riding in the snow - it kind of reminds me of my childhood a bit. But I don't have a strong appetite for riding if the weather turns cold. Once I'm cold, I'm done. But snow, well you can work up quite a sweat pushing through that stuff.
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That fat trike needs a rack for panniers and lights etc. :|
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I ride regardless, we got a freak storm last month in boise got 7" in two days then the temp dropped into single digits so everything froze and actually made riding easier. I bought a new pair of nokian extremes last year and am glad I did, it doesn't get too crappy here that often but when it does Boise is completely unprepared and the snow stays on the roads for ever. Granted my ride isn't 10+ miles any longer but that never stopped me in the past, last two years ago my daily commute was 24 miles and I only missed three weeks of riding due to a back injury where I had to get rides from my wife and coworkers.
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There are different kinds of snow... kinda hard to explain to a SoCalifornian .... maybe if you think about the difference in dry and wet sand on the beach, and the stuff in the desert... OH I HATE YOU!!!!!
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I won't ride in icy conditions. The thought of going down in front of a car...no. Not happening.
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We all have limits. Nothing wrong with that. I used to have a hard and fast rule of not riding on snow or ice. I don't remember what my temperature limit was; I think it was around 25º or 30ºF. Yesterday, I rode quite a bit on ice, though that was unplanned. I'm going to see what my temperature limit is this year. I'm going to push it, but not too far.
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