RonH

With numbers like that it sounds like a bit weight loss (unless you're over 6') and a change in diet would fix everything. You're HDL (good cholesterol) is way too low and the LDL (bad cholesterol) is too high and the ratio between the two is out of whack.
I have this book and it has loads of great information about helping your heart.




I just picked up this one and it looks like another good read.



Not the usual low fat junk that many cardiologists push — including my cardiologist.

Good luck with your cholesterol battle.

NYMXer

28 Health and Beauty Benefits of Apple Cider Vinegar

Lower blood cholesterol.

• Research has indicated that apple cider vinegar improves the lipid profile of blood by decreasing the levels of triglycerides and low-density lipoprotein cholesterol (LDL-C) or bad cholesterol, as also by increasing the levels of high-density lipoprotein cholesterol (HDL-C) or good cholesterol. If you have high cholesterol, consult your physician.

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Wanderer

Any chance you are a Vet, and can go to the VA?

I got the best results with Red Yeast Rice capsules and Fish Oil capsules, both prescribed by my doc, over the counter, and relatively cheap. Take em twice a day..

dim

post your question on godlikeproductions.com

you will get very knoweleagable answers there

Tony N.

Thanks for all the help. I went to the local Vitamine Shop and got a bottle of ACV/honey and mixed it with 8 ounces of water. Not too bad. also got a bottoe of ACV pille but wife wont let me take both. She needs to lower her numbers as well and wont take statins either so we are going to see who does best. Sure hope it don't mess up my digestive system. 6-8 weeks from now I will have a cholestrol test to see if there is any change and adjust as nec. Will get back here then.

canklecat

Heh. You're kidding, right?

Right?

That's one of the most entertaining sites online for fans of conspiracy theories and woo. But accurate info is rare and usually buried under a barrage of B.S. Not to mention the proliferation of casual racism and misogyny.

digibud

I never had cholesterol problems, or so I thought. Total numbers were reasonable but as it turns out my HDL were really too low. I'm on Crestor, have no problems with it and a recent checkup showed my total cholesterol at 93. Still had two heart attacks because...genetics.

Monkey Face

There was a report in the news a few weeks ago, here in the UK, that a 40 year research study has found no evidence linking high cholesterol to an increased risk of heart disease or stroke. Smoking, alcohol, depression and low levels of exercise were the main risk factors for untimely death.

OldsCOOL

I'm giving vitamin K a 6 month try. Also, my oatmeal intake is daily. Everything else is in alignment for an improved number on the September blood labs. Our clinic's head/boss female physician whom I have never met (though I coached her son in varsity wrestling) tried her best to hook me up to statins. She already knew I would say no but thought it was her duty to try me. My number is 204 if I recall.

NYMXer

Do not take the pills, just follow my advice or read it for yourself on the link I provided you.

For the record, ACV will CURE (not control) gout, acne, acid reflux, hyper tension, type II diabetes, digestive disorders and more
It will control high cholesterol, promote weight loss, muscle recovery, help baldness (regrow some hair) and more.

Back in the early greek days, ACV was one the most prescribed holistic medicines of the times. It's pretty good stuff and worth researching the benefits and then give it a try for a few weeks. Many people like the taste, others hate it. I'm glad that I like it and drinking it in water (NEVER drink it straight, it will yellow your teeth and erode your enamel).

Post up your results when you get them back. I'm sure that you will be surprised and pleased with the difference.

MinnMan

Get a new doctor. There's no reason to take statins with your scores.

Also, there is absolutely no justification for measuring your cholesterol as frequently as every 6 weeks. Even if your diet takes a complete u-turn (say, from sausage 3 times a day to only kale and wheat grass), your cholesterol numbers are not going to change that fast. it's not a measure of what you've eaten recently, but rather the conditions in your arteries which change much more slowly. Also, individual measurements have statistical errors, so small changes over a small time baseline would have little significance (e.g., going from 169 to 165 over a short period of time wouldn't tell you that you were headed in the right or wrong direction - as those two numbers are effectively the same within measurement error).

FWIW, I persistently have very high total cholesterol 190-220, but sky-high HDL (97 the last time it was checked). My PCP some times warns me that my total cholesterol is high and at one point brought up the possibility of statins. More recently, I've been consulting with a cardiologist (for other reasons - long story) who (a) said that my cholesterol is great because the HDL is so wonderfully high and (b) gave me an angiogram which showed that my Ca-score is in the zeroth percentile - e.g., that >99.9% of men my age have greater arterial blockage.

MinnMan

I have no knowledge of ACV - not even knowing what the acronym stands for, but beware of any argument that includes claims that the "ancients" used this great cure for (fill in the blank) which modern medicine has somehow forgotten.

The life expectancy in classical Greece was about 30 years: (no "facts" without citation are worth arguing about: mortality | demography | Britannica.com). The greeks indeed pioneered the beginnings of the science of medicine (think Hippocrates), but the efficacy of the items in their proverbial medicine chest is no guide at all to what we should be using.

dim

best site on the net .... some very imformative people post there, but you have to sift out the BS from the others .... and one of the busiest forums globally .... I read all breaking news there and don't watch TV news

a quick search on cholesterol brings up these posts:

https://www.godlikeproductions.com/se...?q=cholesterol


you dont have to sign up to post.... you have a question.... ask it there.... you will find an answer

OldsCOOL

This is a hot topic among health care experts. For the most part, to them there is no debate. The studies are in and before long you will be on statins. Not me.

digibud

yeah! what do the experts know?

Outnumbered

I get my blood work done each year at 58 the lab has total cholesterol as normal below 200. I think any DR that wants you to go on meds for your number is crazy.

To my DR for each med a person goes on there is a systematic change that can take place in other organs/systems, yes he knows sometimes it is required but there are causes and effects from such. He tries to do anything before he puts a person on medications.

BigAura

Interestingly my total cholesterol is identical to yours at 169. However with my HDL at 84 my numbers are considered excellent. I consider myself blessed because both sides of my family have lots cardio-vascular issues: heart attacks, hypertension, diabetes, and the bad kind of high cholesterol. I attribute my circumstance to exercise and a mostly healthy diet which I've always maintained. No meds or supplements just real-food.

MinnMan

So you seem to have great cardiac health even though casual genetic indicators could suggest a poor outlook. So this gets to an interesting perspective: What determines your cardiac health - diet, lifestyle (and stress), genetics, supplements? My general opinion (not to be confused with anything authoritative) is that you can do a great deal with diet and lifestyle, that in some cases genetics plays a decisive role that is out of our control, and that supplements are either useless or at best greatly subordinate to the other three.

(Edit: By "supplements" I include statins and other establishment-blessed elixirs as well as those peddled at the local snake oil store. And no, I"m not trying to antagonize anybody- my main meaning is that diet, lifestyle, and genetics are paramount.)