Today I (v2):
- Soli Deo Gloria -
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Northwest Georgia
Posts: 14,779
Bikes: 2018 Rodriguez Custom Fixed Gear, 2017 Niner RLT 9 RDO, 2015 Bianchi Pista, 2002 Fuji Robaix
Mentioned: 235 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6844 Post(s)
Liked 736 Times
in
469 Posts
Definitely. The shop was cool enough to offer me a bike to use in the interim, though I didn't need it.
The problem is that I don't even know. I was riding and the bike felt a little flexy so i got off and noticed the crack on the top tube. It is about 2-3 inches from where it meets the seat tube. Its odd that it not at a joint.
The problem is that I don't even know. I was riding and the bike felt a little flexy so i got off and noticed the crack on the top tube. It is about 2-3 inches from where it meets the seat tube. Its odd that it not at a joint.
https://www.bikeforums.net/general-cy...bon-frame.html
The thread gets derailed after a page or two but is the same sort of deal.
Guy had a "small crash' and found his frame cracked when he got up. He assumed that the crack was caused by the crash but could not explain the crash, said he "lost his balance." I believe that the crack was the cause rather than the result, that it cracked first and caused him to loose his balance as it flexed.
I'm glad you didn't go down or get hurt. Could have been much worse.
-Tim-
Last edited by TimothyH; 09-12-16 at 09:51 AM.
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 69
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 9 Times
in
2 Posts
today I bought some new levers, to mount front AND rear brakes on my FG. I like to ride long distance with hills and don't give a damn about "street cred" or some BS like that.
- Soli Deo Gloria -
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Northwest Georgia
Posts: 14,779
Bikes: 2018 Rodriguez Custom Fixed Gear, 2017 Niner RLT 9 RDO, 2015 Bianchi Pista, 2002 Fuji Robaix
Mentioned: 235 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6844 Post(s)
Liked 736 Times
in
469 Posts
Just get another set and you'll have all the spares you need
They're pretty cheap nowadays considering how popular and mass produced they were back in their prime.
It definitely helps to let wd-40 or triflow to soak in before truing though. The common park tool mavic nipple wrench for it makes too much torque doesnt help either.
They're pretty cheap nowadays considering how popular and mass produced they were back in their prime.
It definitely helps to let wd-40 or triflow to soak in before truing though. The common park tool mavic nipple wrench for it makes too much torque doesnt help either.
Help me out here. I'm asking out of ignorance.
I think more of these Ksyrium SL spokes are going to go. I could hear them making the same noise as the one that broke while soft pedaling home.
So I've been dabbing TriFlow on the spoke nipples for a few days under the assumption that more are frozen. I have a replacement for the broken NDS spoke have a source for more should I need them.
How long should I soak these things? A day or a week or a month? How likely is it that these will free up? Or is it a lost cause? Wont know until they are tried?
I realize you can't predict the future but what are your thoughts? I'd like to try to salvage these wheels rather than turn them into a coffee table.
-Tim-
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Manhattan
Posts: 1,771
Bikes: AristoNYC's PedalRoom
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 130 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times
in
6 Posts
Point this out for interest..
https://www.bikeforums.net/general-cy...bon-frame.html
The thread gets derailed after a page or two but is the same sort of deal.
Guy had a "small crash' and found his frame cracked when he got up. He assumed that the crack was caused by the crash but could not explain the crash, said he "lost his balance." I believe that the crack was the cause rather than the result, that it cracked first and caused him to loose his balance as it flexed.
I'm glad you didn't go down or get hurt. Could have been much worse.
-Tim-
https://www.bikeforums.net/general-cy...bon-frame.html
The thread gets derailed after a page or two but is the same sort of deal.
Guy had a "small crash' and found his frame cracked when he got up. He assumed that the crack was caused by the crash but could not explain the crash, said he "lost his balance." I believe that the crack was the cause rather than the result, that it cracked first and caused him to loose his balance as it flexed.
I'm glad you didn't go down or get hurt. Could have been much worse.
-Tim-
Yeah, I'm hoping that I don't get any issues from Giant for a replacement. It was around the the tubing left to right, rather than front to back.
- Soli Deo Gloria -
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Northwest Georgia
Posts: 14,779
Bikes: 2018 Rodriguez Custom Fixed Gear, 2017 Niner RLT 9 RDO, 2015 Bianchi Pista, 2002 Fuji Robaix
Mentioned: 235 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6844 Post(s)
Liked 736 Times
in
469 Posts
Thanks, I'm happy it didnt snap while I was riding. I actually rode it 10 miles to the shop to drop off but I wasn't bombing any hills or bunny hopping stuff.
Yeah, I'm hoping that I don't get any issues from Giant for a replacement. It was around the the tubing left to right, rather than front to back.
Yeah, I'm hoping that I don't get any issues from Giant for a replacement. It was around the the tubing left to right, rather than front to back.
Hope Giant does the same. Your case seems pretty straight forward.
Super-duper Genius
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Muskrat Springs, Utah
Posts: 1,713
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 768 Post(s)
Liked 984 Times
in
508 Posts
Today I am getting ready to take an easy to moderate ride on level ground...
Saturday a friend and I did LoToJa as a two-man relay team. I rode legs 1, 3, and 5; he did 2 and 4. It took us just a few minutes over 12 hours to finish the whole 206 miles. I ended up with about 126 miles, including 3100+ feet of climbing. The highest point on the course, near the end of leg 3, is 7630 feet.
It was fun! Tough but fun, and worth the effort.
Saturday a friend and I did LoToJa as a two-man relay team. I rode legs 1, 3, and 5; he did 2 and 4. It took us just a few minutes over 12 hours to finish the whole 206 miles. I ended up with about 126 miles, including 3100+ feet of climbing. The highest point on the course, near the end of leg 3, is 7630 feet.
It was fun! Tough but fun, and worth the effort.
THE STUFFED
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 12,671
Bikes: R. Sachs Road; EAI Bareknuckle; S-Works Enduro
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 361 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 20 Times
in
17 Posts
Help me out here. I'm asking out of ignorance.
I think more of these Ksyrium SL spokes are going to go. I could hear them making the same noise as the one that broke while soft pedaling home.
So I've been dabbing TriFlow on the spoke nipples for a few days under the assumption that more are frozen. I have a replacement for the broken NDS spoke have a source for more should I need them.
How long should I soak these things? A day or a week or a month? How likely is it that these will free up? Or is it a lost cause? Wont know until they are tried?
I realize you can't predict the future but what are your thoughts? I'd like to try to salvage these wheels rather than turn them into a coffee table.
-Tim-
I think more of these Ksyrium SL spokes are going to go. I could hear them making the same noise as the one that broke while soft pedaling home.
So I've been dabbing TriFlow on the spoke nipples for a few days under the assumption that more are frozen. I have a replacement for the broken NDS spoke have a source for more should I need them.
How long should I soak these things? A day or a week or a month? How likely is it that these will free up? Or is it a lost cause? Wont know until they are tried?
I realize you can't predict the future but what are your thoughts? I'd like to try to salvage these wheels rather than turn them into a coffee table.
-Tim-
Seized spokes on SSC ksyriums can be dicey as the corrosion created bond between the spoke/ nipple interface needs to be broken first. It is here when the spoke usually breaks. You're going to have be very patient and slow going with the following process for every problem spoke.
You do not want the spoke to twist. At first it is going to be inevitable when you're attempting to break the spoke loose from the nipple but you have to minimize it. While attempting to rotate the nipple, use a pair of pliers (if they're needle nose, use the inner wider portion) with a small rag in its jaw to clamp the bottommost fully bladed portion of the spoke closest to the nipple.
With the spoke held firmly in place by the pliers with one hand, in very small increments twist the nipple back and forth with the spoke wrench in the other hand. You will feel torsion on the spoke through the pliers for as long as the spoke is seized within the nipple. You will know if the spoke has broken loose when you no longer feel this torsion.
Seeing that triflow has not done much, you should try using something that is more geared toward unseizing things. A penetrating oil should give you the best shot at breaking free the spokes without breaking themselves. Try PB blaster, it is my go to.
Truth be told, mavic did a poor job in corrosion proofing the nipple and spokes of those wheels.
- Soli Deo Gloria -
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Northwest Georgia
Posts: 14,779
Bikes: 2018 Rodriguez Custom Fixed Gear, 2017 Niner RLT 9 RDO, 2015 Bianchi Pista, 2002 Fuji Robaix
Mentioned: 235 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6844 Post(s)
Liked 736 Times
in
469 Posts
Is that sound being produced when the nipple is rotated in either direction?
Seized spokes on SSC ksyriums can be dicey as the corrosion created bond between the spoke/ nipple interface needs to be broken first. It is here when the spoke usually breaks. You're going to have be very patient and slow going with the following process for every problem spoke.
You do not want the spoke to twist. At first it is going to be inevitable when you're attempting to break the spoke loose from the nipple but you have to minimize it. While attempting to rotate the nipple, use a pair of pliers (if they're needle nose, use the inner wider portion) with a small rag in its jaw to clamp the bottommost fully bladed portion of the spoke closest to the nipple.
With the spoke held firmly in place by the pliers with one hand, in very small increments twist the nipple back and forth with the spoke wrench in the other hand. You will feel torsion on the spoke through the pliers for as long as the spoke is seized within the nipple. You will know if the spoke has broken loose when you no longer feel this torsion.
Seeing that triflow has not done much, you should try using something that is more geared toward unseizing things. A penetrating oil should give you the best shot at breaking free the spokes without breaking themselves. Try PB blaster, it is my go to.
Truth be told, mavic did a poor job in corrosion proofing the nipple and spokes of those wheels.
Seized spokes on SSC ksyriums can be dicey as the corrosion created bond between the spoke/ nipple interface needs to be broken first. It is here when the spoke usually breaks. You're going to have be very patient and slow going with the following process for every problem spoke.
You do not want the spoke to twist. At first it is going to be inevitable when you're attempting to break the spoke loose from the nipple but you have to minimize it. While attempting to rotate the nipple, use a pair of pliers (if they're needle nose, use the inner wider portion) with a small rag in its jaw to clamp the bottommost fully bladed portion of the spoke closest to the nipple.
With the spoke held firmly in place by the pliers with one hand, in very small increments twist the nipple back and forth with the spoke wrench in the other hand. You will feel torsion on the spoke through the pliers for as long as the spoke is seized within the nipple. You will know if the spoke has broken loose when you no longer feel this torsion.
Seeing that triflow has not done much, you should try using something that is more geared toward unseizing things. A penetrating oil should give you the best shot at breaking free the spokes without breaking themselves. Try PB blaster, it is my go to.
Truth be told, mavic did a poor job in corrosion proofing the nipple and spokes of those wheels.
Thanks for this. I have not tried to twist anything yet. Not in a rush.
The red/bold makes absolute sense. If it is corrosion then the two pieces are bonded and there may not be much that can be done.
I purchased a few spokes just in case. If not then it will make a really nice coffee table.
Super-duper Genius
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Muskrat Springs, Utah
Posts: 1,713
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 768 Post(s)
Liked 984 Times
in
508 Posts
Not so! I don't have much experience with bicycle spokes, but I've a lot dealing with corrosion. Take Leukybear's advice to use PB Blaster. That and a little physical force--very judiciously applied--can work wonders for un-bonding stuff.
- Soli Deo Gloria -
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Northwest Georgia
Posts: 14,779
Bikes: 2018 Rodriguez Custom Fixed Gear, 2017 Niner RLT 9 RDO, 2015 Bianchi Pista, 2002 Fuji Robaix
Mentioned: 235 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6844 Post(s)
Liked 736 Times
in
469 Posts
I decided to go for it last night.
Two nipples gave a slight pop as they broke loose but everything is like butter.
I Appreciate the advice.
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Manhattan
Posts: 1,771
Bikes: AristoNYC's PedalRoom
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 130 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times
in
6 Posts
- Soli Deo Gloria -
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Northwest Georgia
Posts: 14,779
Bikes: 2018 Rodriguez Custom Fixed Gear, 2017 Niner RLT 9 RDO, 2015 Bianchi Pista, 2002 Fuji Robaix
Mentioned: 235 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6844 Post(s)
Liked 736 Times
in
469 Posts
Gold chains on everything
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 427
Bikes: Heavy Pedal Zephyr, '16 Mash Work, '14 Cinelli Parallax, C-Dale Synapse Disc
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I like it. It makes me wish I had considered a Giant over the C-Dale Synapse.
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2013
Location: dEnVeR
Posts: 1,682
Bikes: CENTURION / LOOK / Bianchi
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 214 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 10 Times
in
10 Posts
Brown Jersey Winner
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: The Bad Woods.
Posts: 8,797
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 243 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 13 Times
in
13 Posts
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 8,088
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 686 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times
in
5 Posts
Agreed.
Also, did I lose you from instagram or have you not been posting much, I swear I never see your stuff anymore.
Also, did I lose you from instagram or have you not been posting much, I swear I never see your stuff anymore.
Brown Jersey Winner
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: The Bad Woods.
Posts: 8,797
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 243 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 13 Times
in
13 Posts
that and another pic i posted this afternoon are on the instantmachine
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: SD
Posts: 2,745
Bikes: Handsome Fredward, Trek 1.1
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 481 Post(s)
Liked 131 Times
in
47 Posts
Gave up beer for the two weeks prior to Jingle Cross and feel fitter than I have in the last 8 years. Go figure.
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: PHL
Posts: 9,948
Bikes: Litespeed Catalyst, IRO Rob Roy, All City Big Block
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1332 Post(s)
Liked 398 Times
in
194 Posts
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: SD
Posts: 2,745
Bikes: Handsome Fredward, Trek 1.1
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 481 Post(s)
Liked 131 Times
in
47 Posts
Beer is awesome, but not when you want ride a bike whilst completely in the red for 40 minutes.
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: SD
Posts: 2,745
Bikes: Handsome Fredward, Trek 1.1
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 481 Post(s)
Liked 131 Times
in
47 Posts
I picked up a HED seatpost off eBay because I convinced myself I should use a aluminum seatpost instead of the generic carbon one I've been using. It arrived yesterday and it's totally cool, but now I'm not sure I want to use it because carbon. Suddenly I'm thinking about grams while riding a Surly.
Señor Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 621
Bikes: All of them
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 31 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: PHL
Posts: 9,948
Bikes: Litespeed Catalyst, IRO Rob Roy, All City Big Block
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1332 Post(s)
Liked 398 Times
in
194 Posts
Did 25 miles on some new roads today, good stuff. Going through Strava afterward I see that I got 26th fastest time on this one hill and the guy who owns the KOM on it apparently climbed a 10% grade at 30mph.