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Old 03-11-17, 04:24 PM
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Whenever I'm having a bad day I have to stop and check the brakes to see if they're binding and the wheel aren't spinning freely. They almost always are spinning freely but it doesn't hurt to check...
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Old 03-13-17, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CatScratches
I've never heard of people be against kickstands I dont usually get them because Im too lazy to put them on my bike, but reading this thread I naturally went "wait a minute... do you actually NEED a fastened kickstand?"

So apparently there's a way to get the best of both worlds: Just google "portable kickstand".... Can post link cos im n00b. so yea.

Btw... why DO you guys not like kickstands? xD Im a bike-newbie'ish.... So maybe I just havent hit the epiphany yet.
Compare the time it takes to get out a portable kickstand and deploy it every time you stop to the 1 second it takes to kick down a kickstand, compare that to the literally 5 minutes it takes to install a kickstand (I'm including the time it takes to get out and put away tools) and see which one of us is lazy
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Old 03-14-17, 06:59 AM
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Took me about an hour to install my kickstand...
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Old 03-14-17, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94
Took me about an hour to install my kickstand...
I feel better about my limited mechanical skills now.
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Old 03-14-17, 07:19 AM
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Well you know, I was putting a double-leg spring-loaded kickstand onto a bike with no kickstand plate, having to fabricate stuff, and also grind away part of the kickstand base itself to prevent shift cable interference along the right chainstay.


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Old 03-14-17, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94
Well you know, I was putting a double-leg spring-loaded kickstand onto a bike with no kickstand plate, having to fabricate stuff, and also grind away part of the kickstand base itself to prevent shift cable interference along the right chainstay.
I no longer feel better about my limited mechanical skills.
My double-leg kickstand is still sitting in my parts bin...
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Old 03-14-17, 07:37 AM
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You can do it! Your install will almost certainly be easier than mine. I was having to deal with non-round chain stay cross-sectional shapes.
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Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94
You can do it! Your install will almost certainly be easier than mine. I was having to deal with non-round chain stay cross-sectional shapes.
It was apparently designed for a single-speed or IGH bike; it hits the derailleur on at least 2 different bikes in 1 direction and the tires in the other. I imagine the tire rub would be far worse than the OP's.
Picked it up when I was buying some handlebars off CL - I'm a sucker for "just $5". Also got a third set of panniers for "just $5" at the same time that now sit in the parts bin as well.
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Old 03-15-17, 01:45 PM
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I don't like kickstands. You would think they provide stability. With he exception of two legged ones or the heavy duty ones the swing behind the rear fender, they are not. How many times did the bike fall over because there wasn't a solid spot to put the kick stand. How many times did the bike fall over because the bike toppled over with the kick stand as the pivot point?

I have a bike to ride not to park somewhere. Usually it is at home with a stand or parked against a bike rack, don't need a kickstand.

But if you want one and it works for you, go for it. Don't crush the chain stay in the process.
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Old 03-17-17, 01:11 PM
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I've very very rarely had a bike fall off a kickstand. I don't think I've EVER had one with a rear axle stand fall over. They are on the seat stay and chain stay along the side. And most of the time I'm parking on gravel or dirt and still no fall over.

If it's falling with the "kickstand as the pivot point" then you're probably using a center of bike stand. Try a rear axle stand, they're much better. They're the only ones I'd bother with if you use rear panniers.

I have to park a LOT of places where there are no racks, not least of which is just alongside the road as I'm stopping to deal with something. I probably deploy my kickstand at least 4 or 5 times a day in a place where if I had no kickstand I'd have to drop the bike on the ground.
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Originally Posted by ItsJustMe
I've very very rarely had a bike fall off a kickstand. I don't think I've EVER had one with a rear axle stand fall over. They are on the seat stay and chain stay along the side. And most of the time I'm parking on gravel or dirt and still no fall over.

If it's falling with the "kickstand as the pivot point" then you're probably using a center of bike stand. Try a rear axle stand, they're much better. They're the only ones I'd bother with if you use rear panniers.

I have to park a LOT of places where there are no racks, not least of which is just alongside the road as I'm stopping to deal with something. I probably deploy my kickstand at least 4 or 5 times a day in a place where if I had no kickstand I'd have to drop the bike on the ground.
I think most of the so called "problems" with kickstands is that many people are only familiar with the ones they were exposed to early on in life with department store bikes, or cheap, poorly designed aftermarket ones.
With a quality kickstand a bike is far less likely to fall over than one propped up against something or in a rack.
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I think I would have a really difficult time attaching my son's trail-a-bike if I didn't have a double kickstand holding the bike perfectly upright.
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Originally Posted by jimincalif
What's a kickstand?
Commonly known as a mirrorsmasher, because it has absolutely not one damn thing to do with actually helping the bike stand up.
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Old 03-20-17, 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ItsJustMe
Compare the time it takes to get out a portable kickstand and deploy it every time you stop to the 1 second it takes to kick down a kickstand, compare that to the literally 5 minutes it takes to install a kickstand (I'm including the time it takes to get out and put away tools) and see which one of us is lazy
But.... I already know im the lazy one here ... Im so lazy that it actually costs me MORE time because I always have to find something I can lean my bike against. ....

Theres a saying in my language: "The lazy man always runs more"
Which is always true in the end...
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Old 03-21-17, 08:31 PM
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Kickstand FTW (on my commuter/utility bike)

not on my roadie or MTB tho - that would just be dumb
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