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05-04-17, 03:49 PM
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05-04-17, 06:50 PM
#28
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If you are truly worried get a tent that uses silicone impregnated nylon. It will not be FR treated, which should cause its own caution. There is at least one tent maker who uses urethane coated polyester without FR. This might be your best bet. While untreated polyester does not meet CPAI-84 FR specs, polyester is inherently more flame ******ant than nylon. I personally consider this a scare tactic by unscrupulous manufacturers having no merit.
*Sil/nylon is technically not waterproof but is so water-repellent that is all but the most extreme conditions you stay completely dry. In high winds I have experienced a very fine mist coming through the fabric.
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05-04-17, 07:02 PM
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MLD Grace Tarp to the rescue. ;-)
05-04-17, 07:17 PM
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05-04-17, 11:40 PM
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Could you say what specific concerns you have concerning tents and off gassing. Both nylon and polyester, the most common tent fabrics, are inert with no danger of off gassing. Polyurethane and silicone* used to waterproof the tent fabrics are both non volatile and present no danger. The flame ******ant mandated by some states and in common use world wide is usually what is singled out as a carcinogen. But the flame ******ant uses the urethane as its carrier making it very stable.
If you are truly worried get a tent that uses silicone impregnated nylon. It will not be FR treated, which should cause its own caution. There is at least one tent maker who uses urethane coated polyester without FR. This might be your best bet. While untreated polyester does not meet CPAI-84 FR specs, polyester is inherently more flame ******ant than nylon. I personally consider this a scare tactic by unscrupulous manufacturers having no merit.
*Sil/nylon is technically not waterproof but is so water-repellent that is all but the most extreme conditions you stay completely dry. In high winds I have experienced a very fine mist coming through the fabric.
If you are truly worried get a tent that uses silicone impregnated nylon. It will not be FR treated, which should cause its own caution. There is at least one tent maker who uses urethane coated polyester without FR. This might be your best bet. While untreated polyester does not meet CPAI-84 FR specs, polyester is inherently more flame ******ant than nylon. I personally consider this a scare tactic by unscrupulous manufacturers having no merit.
*Sil/nylon is technically not waterproof but is so water-repellent that is all but the most extreme conditions you stay completely dry. In high winds I have experienced a very fine mist coming through the fabric.
Just want to recognize that someone helpfully answered OP's question in about as perfect a way as possible. Didn't see this coming after Page 1!
05-04-17, 11:51 PM
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Couldn't resist.
To the OP: you might want to check out REI's new line of tents. REI has been paying attention to this issue,
Understanding Flame ******ants in Camping and Backpacking Tents - REI Co-op Journal
05-06-17, 02:28 AM
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The OP might be concerned about the cigar smoke though in those dang cuben tents . . .
Couldn't resist.
To the OP: you might want to check out REI's new line of tents. REI has been paying attention to this issue,
Understanding Flame ******ants in Camping and Backpacking Tents - REI Co-op Journal
Couldn't resist.
To the OP: you might want to check out REI's new line of tents. REI has been paying attention to this issue,
Understanding Flame ******ants in Camping and Backpacking Tents - REI Co-op Journal
The REI article makes a few minor errors. CPAI-84 was established in, you guessed it, 1984. It is a voluntary standard set by the industry for recreational camping tents. It has been officially incorporated in whole by I think six states and in ISO 9000 in Europe. Big circus and event tents have to meet far stricter FR requirements. California State Fire Marshal and Mil C military specs are the most common commercial and industrial specs used in the US.
CPAI-84 test measures ignition time, char length and burn time of a 1x6 inch strip of fabric held over a Bunsen burner inside a glass box. Below is a video that went around the camping forums on the Net a few years ago. CPAI-84 fabric has to be self extinguishing after the ignition source is removed. Also the fabric must be consumed as it burn such that no molten plastic falls to the ground. Note in this video that the polyester noseeum mesh burns much slower than the nylon.
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On a trip you've got worry as a companion, for you're always concerned about what happens next and sticking to an itinerary. . . . on a journey you never have to worry. Something always happens next.
- Gordon Hempton: One Square inch of Silence
On a trip you've got worry as a companion, for you're always concerned about what happens next and sticking to an itinerary. . . . on a journey you never have to worry. Something always happens next.
- Gordon Hempton: One Square inch of Silence
05-06-17, 08:40 AM
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#1) Don't cook inside your tent... don't eat in there either , then tour Bear/racoon Country..
Mountaineering tents are made to withstand gale force winds , Leisure camping tents are not.
Mountaineering tents are made to withstand gale force winds , Leisure camping tents are not.
