Tires with less rolling resistance
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Tires with less rolling resistance
I own a Giant Cypress DX. It comes with 700c tires that have a width of 38mm. It seems that the rolling resistance is high with these tires.I don't do any off road or trail riding. I would like to increase my speed and decrease my rolling resistance.Any suggestions would help on replacement tires.
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Schwalbe Marathon Supreme! Put a 35 on the front, and a 40 on the back. You will keep the comfort, and improve handling and rolling resistance.
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Expensive ones.. high thread count , slick, very thin tread rubber. ... can be wider .. like Compass sells.
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According to this website:
Tour/E-Bike Tires Rolling Resistance Reviews
The Schwalbe Marathon Almotion tires have the lowest rolling resistance in their class that he's tested. Of his list, I sort of like the Continental Sport Contact II -- near the best in terms of rolling resistance, very light weight, and less expensive than the Schwalbes. Though the Marathon Supreme also looks good -- not near as heavy as some of the other Marathon tires they offer.
Tour/E-Bike Tires Rolling Resistance Reviews
The Schwalbe Marathon Almotion tires have the lowest rolling resistance in their class that he's tested. Of his list, I sort of like the Continental Sport Contact II -- near the best in terms of rolling resistance, very light weight, and less expensive than the Schwalbes. Though the Marathon Supreme also looks good -- not near as heavy as some of the other Marathon tires they offer.
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To optimize for smooth rolling, you'll want something that's designed more or less like a performance road tire. Not a lot of options if you want to keep the tire width, but they do exist...
Panaracer Paselas are affordable and you can't go wrong with them.
If you want something fancier, Compass tires are phenomenal.
Panaracer Paselas are affordable and you can't go wrong with them.
If you want something fancier, Compass tires are phenomenal.
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I have Michelin PRO4 Endurance 700x25 on my road bike. you can get them up to 28mm
https://www.biketiresdirect.com/prod...FUdWDQodILwKrA
https://www.biketiresdirect.com/prod...FUdWDQodILwKrA
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Compass are expensive tires. How about non tourguard Panaracer paselas with skinwalls. You may have to fix more flats though.
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I will take flat protection over less rolling resistance any day. If the OP is strictly riding paved roads then I'd suggest switching to a 700x32 tire, less weight and higher pressure normally make for a better rolling tire.
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Higher pressures decrease the amount that a tire deforms as it rolls, which is what results in less hysteresis loss. Wider tires can't be pumped as high, but they also deform less at a given pressure, so they don't *need* to be pumped as high to achieve similarly low losses. (And since they're squishier at the same amount of hysteresis loss, they work better as suspension, so they actually end up with lower rolling resistance as surfaces get rougher.)
You still end up with bigger aero profile, but this is pretty darn insignificant at the speeds people tend to ride their hybrids.
Overall it's usually pretty close to a wash. For paved speed, the really important thing with road tires is getting good high-performance road tires, and configuring them reasonably. Whether they're 25mm or 35mm doesn't make a ton of difference.
(The trick is finding good wide high-performance road tires. That market is very small, which is why several people have mentioned Compass; they're about the only brand with a relatively complete-ish lineup.)
You still end up with bigger aero profile, but this is pretty darn insignificant at the speeds people tend to ride their hybrids.
Overall it's usually pretty close to a wash. For paved speed, the really important thing with road tires is getting good high-performance road tires, and configuring them reasonably. Whether they're 25mm or 35mm doesn't make a ton of difference.
(The trick is finding good wide high-performance road tires. That market is very small, which is why several people have mentioned Compass; they're about the only brand with a relatively complete-ish lineup.)
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Higher pressures decrease the amount that a tire deforms as it rolls, which is what results in less hysteresis loss. Wider tires can't be pumped as high, but they also deform less at a given pressure, so they don't *need* to be pumped as high to achieve similarly low losses. (And since they're squishier at the same amount of hysteresis loss, they work better as suspension, so they actually end up with lower rolling resistance as surfaces get rougher.)You still end up with bigger aero profile, but this is pretty darn insignificant at the speeds people tend to ride their hybrids
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question for ya. I recently mounted a cpl 40mm tires which when fully inflated (to 87 lbs) didn't fit between my rear chain stays. I let some air out (to 50 psi) & they fit fine. with all of my 215 lbs plus bike & rear trunk the rear tire doesn't deform at all that I can tell. I could have gotten the 35mm tires & pumped them with more air but wutz the difference? meaning I think I'll keep these as they are & not return them for the narrower tire
The difference? The narrower tires would weigh slightly less, ride slightly less plush.
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question for ya. I recently mounted a cpl 40mm tires which when fully inflated (to 87 lbs) didn't fit between my rear chain stays. I let some air out (to 50 psi) & they fit fine. with all of my 215 lbs plus bike & rear trunk the rear tire doesn't deform at all that I can tell. I could have gotten the 35mm tires & pumped them with more air but wutz the difference? meaning I think I'll keep these as they are & not return them for the narrower tire
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Try a lower handlebar position. Comfort hybrids like your Giant Cypress and my Globe Carmel waste some energy efficiency in exchange for comfort. A few adjustments will make more difference than a relatively minor tire swap.
After getting back into shape riding the Globe back in 2015 I lowered the handlebar and then eventually swapped the riser bar for a flat bar. Getting the bar within an inch or so above saddle height made a big difference yet is still comfortable (although it took a few months of overall conditioning).
Next I tried a firmer saddle. Not a hard, uncomfortable saddle, just one that's a bit firmer. The original was heavily padded with springs. A saddle with somewhat flexible nylon frame and Lycra over resilient but thinner foam was more efficient. No real loss of comfort because the bike's long wheelbase and tires soaked up most bumps.
If your Cypress has a suspension seat post, try a solid seat post. Again, there are some trade offs between comfort and efficiency. An exception could be a pricey Thudbuster or similar Suntour post.
I'm actually running heavier, wider puncture resistant tires now than the originals. They roll more smoothly and comfortable at lower pressure without feeling sluggish.
If I wanted lighter weight but still comfortable and efficient tires I'd go with Continental Speed Rides on my comfort hybrid. I've been running a pair of Speed Rides on my mountain bike for several months and they're outstanding all around tires and great values.
After getting back into shape riding the Globe back in 2015 I lowered the handlebar and then eventually swapped the riser bar for a flat bar. Getting the bar within an inch or so above saddle height made a big difference yet is still comfortable (although it took a few months of overall conditioning).
Next I tried a firmer saddle. Not a hard, uncomfortable saddle, just one that's a bit firmer. The original was heavily padded with springs. A saddle with somewhat flexible nylon frame and Lycra over resilient but thinner foam was more efficient. No real loss of comfort because the bike's long wheelbase and tires soaked up most bumps.
If your Cypress has a suspension seat post, try a solid seat post. Again, there are some trade offs between comfort and efficiency. An exception could be a pricey Thudbuster or similar Suntour post.
I'm actually running heavier, wider puncture resistant tires now than the originals. They roll more smoothly and comfortable at lower pressure without feeling sluggish.
If I wanted lighter weight but still comfortable and efficient tires I'd go with Continental Speed Rides on my comfort hybrid. I've been running a pair of Speed Rides on my mountain bike for several months and they're outstanding all around tires and great values.
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Continental grand prix 4 season if you have the money. Conti Gatorskin is a similar one at a lower price but slightly greater puncture resistance. I'd recommend these tires if you plan on going narrower like 28-32mms. These wheels will add 0.5-1.5 mph to your average speed because of their relatively lower rolling resistance compared to most stock hybrid tires.
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I own a Giant Cypress DX. It comes with 700c tires that have a width of 38mm. It seems that the rolling resistance is high with these tires.I don't do any off road or trail riding. I would like to increase my speed and decrease my rolling resistance.Any suggestions would help on replacement tires.