Disks not ready
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Disks not ready
Says Chris Froome. Who am I to argue with Chris Froome.
"I don't think the technology is quite where it needs to be' says four-time Tour de France winner"
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/chri...n-disc-brakes/
"I don't think the technology is quite where it needs to be' says four-time Tour de France winner"
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/chri...n-disc-brakes/
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Chris Froome is a professional. I am not. Our limits and requirements are different. I am not advocating for disc or rim. I have both. It's not a big deal for me as a recreational rider.
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I guess if I was riding where I needed to be on the brakes constantly for 5-10 minutes at a time and having the rotors warp, I wouldn't be happy with them either. On the other hand, what happens to carbon rims if you're riding rim brakes for 5-10 minutes? I guess if you're a pro, you can replace them as often as necessary so it doesn't matter.
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I guess if I was riding where I needed to be on the brakes constantly for 5-10 minutes at a time and having the rotors warp, I wouldn't be happy with them either. On the other hand, what happens to carbon rims if you're riding rim brakes for 5-10 minutes? I guess if you're a pro, you can replace them as often as necessary so it doesn't matter.
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@popey makes a good point. Take it out of context - ever been in a race car? For anything but racing (on THAT track in THOSE conditions)... they really suck. Do I want race-driven and funded R&D on my bikes (and cars and running shoes) *$#& yeah I do. But that doesn't mean every bit of tech is ready for my needs - cost vs performance, etc.
Full disclosure... I have a few bikes with rim brakes and a couple with disc. I like the disc brakes a lot. They really are just better - for me... on my routes in my conditions ;-)
Full disclosure... I have a few bikes with rim brakes and a couple with disc. I like the disc brakes a lot. They really are just better - for me... on my routes in my conditions ;-)
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I guess if I was riding where I needed to be on the brakes constantly for 5-10 minutes at a time and having the rotors warp, I wouldn't be happy with them either. On the other hand, what happens to carbon rims if you're riding rim brakes for 5-10 minutes? I guess if you're a pro, you can replace them as often as necessary so it doesn't matter.
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It's been pointed out elsewhere that ISN is sponsored by SwissStop, whose disc rotors and pads are apparently much more prone to overheating and warping than those offered by the big 3 manufacturers.
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I guess if I was riding where I needed to be on the brakes constantly for 5-10 minutes at a time and having the rotors warp, I wouldn't be happy with them either. On the other hand, what happens to carbon rims if you're riding rim brakes for 5-10 minutes? I guess if you're a pro, you can replace them as often as necessary so it doesn't matter.
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I would go as far as to say that carbon clinchers are the main reason why disc brakes are so popular now.
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I would go as far as to say that carbon clinchers are the main reason why disc brakes are so popular now.
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With that said, I tend to agree with Mr Froome. I can see where if you're riding and travelling a lot, its probably easy to ding a rotor and have to put up with a persistent *shing*shing*shing* sound. If I had to deal with that 30 hours a week I'd probably hate disc brakes too.
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That's a bit of a rarity.
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Well, he's paid to ride for a team, and Factor sponsors that team. Factor happens to put disc brakes on his bike. He's not getting paid specifically to use disc brakes, same as he's not getting paid specifically to use CX-Ray spokes.
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Maybe they need to take a cue from their two-wheeled racing big brothers and throw a little duct on the front brake for cooling.
...oh wait, that'd probably cost 1.5w, and the unbearable horror of that proposition
...oh wait, that'd probably cost 1.5w, and the unbearable horror of that proposition
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Chris Froome bores me. His racing style is boring and his opinions I could care less about. I am sure as person he is just fine but marginal gains make me yawn. Disc brakes are just fine and if you are having issues you are probably doing something wrong. He has mechanics so he should be having issues unless using crap equipment but why would he do that. I haven't used SwissStop rotors but their pads are excellent so I doubt it would be that but maybe that is the problem or he has a really flexy frame that is causing issues which seems suspect. If his issue is over heating a larger rotor would help or learning how to brake better.
Ehhh...he might just want to start another debate on disc vs rim brakes because he was stalking the forum and realized we hadn't had one in while
Ehhh...he might just want to start another debate on disc vs rim brakes because he was stalking the forum and realized we hadn't had one in while
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He's done some very exciting things in races; surprise attacks on downhills, rolling breaks with Sagan, running up a mountain. Way more exciting than most everyone else.
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Admittedly I should watch a bit more. But I am still never that excited by him.
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One of the early freeriders couldn't get much help from sponsors because he kept breaking frames. He was doing stuff nobody else was but still.
I know a guy who raced drag cars and paid his own way for everything. He was pretty good and got a ride in a car with full sponsorship, just show up and drive.
One day he mouthed off about the team owner's son to the paper, National Dragster. No more free ride.
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Chris Froome says he's 'not 100 per cent sold on disc brakes' as he reviews his new bike - Cycling Weekly
I understand that to mean a descent with "constant breaking" over a 5 to 10 minute period.
With rim brakes one quick look plus one squeeze of the brake lever confirm I am good to go. I can do both as I am lifting my bike off the wall onto the ground. I don't have a bike with disc brakes but I don't think it is quite that easy to verify their condition. That said, by the time the brake tracks on my wheels are worn out, lightweight alloy wheels for rim brakes may no longer still be offered, so I will have to switch to disc brakes then.
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