Third Hand Chain Whip
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Third Hand Chain Whip
Over the past year I have swapped out a few freehub bodies, (7 to 8 and 10 to 7 to 8). I have also gone through a few cassette changes and some cassette mods. This has caused me to have to remove cassette lockrings multiple times. Sometimes it is hard to hold the chain whip and keep the lockring tool, attached to a breaker bar, square; even with a guide pin remover.
I imagine this might be common knowledge among a lot of mechanics, but for me it was a recent epiphany.
John
I imagine this might be common knowledge among a lot of mechanics, but for me it was a recent epiphany.
John
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Nice idea. You can also hold the lock ring tool in place with a skewer some times. Then you'd use a large adjustable jaw wrench or the right size box end wrench, rather than a socket.
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My usual technique is to clamp a guidepin lockring tool in a bench vise facing up and set the wheel on it with the lockring down. Then the chainwhip can be wrapped around any cog and used to unthread the lockring. Only one hand needed.
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If you're removing cassettes frequently, I recommend this tool, Pedros Cassette Vice https://pedros.com/products/tools/ca.../vise-whip-ii/ . A bit pricey but well worth the expense for ease of use and gains in efficiency, not to mention cleanliness and a reduction in skinned knuckles..
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If you're removing cassettes frequently, I recommend this tool, Pedros Cassette Vice https://pedros.com/products/tools/ca.../vise-whip-ii/ . A bit pricey but well worth the expense for ease of use and gains in efficiency, not to mention cleanliness and a reduction in skinned knuckles..
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Thanks for the ideas.
I thought about a skewer, but when I first tried this I didn’t want to dig out one long enough to work on 135 OLD hubs. I used the rope-a-dope initially on mtb wheels and the tires ensured the rope wouldn’t slip.
The vise is a good option except for not having enough diameter wall clearance.
This past pandemic year has given rise to work on various what-if projects. Some almost just to see the results, particularly with freehub swaps. It keeps me out of trouble, except for having to find more room for parts; and my eBay purchases. Hopefully my children’s children’s children will appreciate the spares... lol!
I think I’m come to the end of my rope (sorry) in doing swaps and the setups will hopefully stay as is for a while.
John
I thought about a skewer, but when I first tried this I didn’t want to dig out one long enough to work on 135 OLD hubs. I used the rope-a-dope initially on mtb wheels and the tires ensured the rope wouldn’t slip.
The vise is a good option except for not having enough diameter wall clearance.
This past pandemic year has given rise to work on various what-if projects. Some almost just to see the results, particularly with freehub swaps. It keeps me out of trouble, except for having to find more room for parts; and my eBay purchases. Hopefully my children’s children’s children will appreciate the spares... lol!
I think I’m come to the end of my rope (sorry) in doing swaps and the setups will hopefully stay as is for a while.
John
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If you're removing cassettes frequently, I recommend this tool, Pedros Cassette Vice https://pedros.com/products/tools/ca.../vise-whip-ii/ . A bit pricey but well worth the expense for ease of use and gains in efficiency, not to mention cleanliness and a reduction in skinned knuckles..
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