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Old 02-24-22, 11:38 AM
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Perhaps. But ok, you can discontinue the older X style but why discontinue replacement parts such as cleats? To make me basically have to throw away fully functional pedals because the cleats are no longer made? That does not engender customer support and loyalty. Yes, the Zeros were the newer evolution of the original design. That said, I had no need to buy Zeros when my Xs worked just fine. I ride Campy 11 speed. 12 and now 13 has been out for a few years, but there is no reason to retire my 11 and also 10 speed groups which work perfectly fine. I can still buy parts for Campy 9 speed and earlier if I need. This is what builds and maintains customer loyalty. IMHO. I liked Speedplay as this smaller San Diego based company. Unfortunately no longer.
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Originally Posted by Fox Farm
Perhaps. But ok, you can discontinue the older X style but why discontinue replacement parts such as cleats? To make me basically have to throw away fully functional pedals because the cleats are no longer made? That does not engender customer support and loyalty. Yes, the Zeros were the newer evolution of the original design. That said, I had no need to buy Zeros when my Xs worked just fine. I ride Campy 11 speed. 12 and now 13 has been out for a few years, but there is no reason to retire my 11 and also 10 speed groups which work perfectly fine. I can still buy parts for Campy 9 speed and earlier if I need. This is what builds and maintains customer loyalty. IMHO. I liked Speedplay as this smaller San Diego based company. Unfortunately no longer.
Give me a break - if there were enough customers for it to make financial sense to continue the X-series, whether wholly or in part, they would have done so. But yeah, it's great that you liked them so much that you think that it's nothing to a small company to shut down production on current product and change around all of their tooling just to appease a handful of curmudgeons that seem to think that they're under obligation to provide parts in perpetuity.

Now do you want to talk about their power meters or not?
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Old 02-24-22, 01:46 PM
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The initial reviews are quite favorable, and review units have been out for a much longer period of time than many other products so the results are probably robust. Congratulations to Wahoo.

That said, here's Wahoo's problem: their share of the pedal market is small. If 1) I were a Speedplay Zero user, 2) didn't already have a power meter, and 3) were in the market to jump onto the power meter bandwagon, I'd be on this in a New York minute. However, if I weren't already a Speedplay user, this probably isn't enough to get me to switch, or to switch on all my bikes. That said, looks like a good implementation.
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Originally Posted by RChung
That said, here's Wahoo's problem: their share of the pedal market is small. If 1) I were a Speedplay Zero user, 2) didn't already have a power meter
Yeah, this is the issue for me. Like many that had Speedplay and wanted to get in to a power meter, I had plenty of time to go about it another way, which I did.... so I don't need PM pedals at this point. Now, if my PM were to **** the bed and my pedal bodies were looking a little beat up, and I had multiple bikes that I wanted to swap among (not something that's realistic for a this lazy guy with a crank-based PM), then I'd strongly consider the new pedals... but that's a lot of stuff that needs to align.
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Old 02-24-22, 05:03 PM
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My next bike will probably get these. Unless somehow I manage to somehow figure a way to use a Left side 11s Record crankarm (stages) which seems unlikely.
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Originally Posted by SoSmellyAir
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I'm not supporting Wahoo but the pedals look interesting for Speedplay users. I just started using a dual-sided powermeter crank and do like the power readings a lot. It will be interesting to see if these pedals take off.
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