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Old 07-07-23, 11:03 AM
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Just Installed Shimano Rim Brake Pads

I just installed new brake pads. All seems well. I read somewhere that there is a left and right pad. I did not notice that. I did not see any indication of that.
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Just make sure the open end of the shoe holders faces the REAR for both front and back calipers.
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Originally Posted by smd4
Just make sure the open end of the shoe holders faces the REAR for both front and back calipers.
Thanks, that is what I did. Also, I did not put loctite on the small screws. I don't seen how they can come off even without the screw.
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The small screw that locks the shoe into the holder? That won’t come loose. No need for Loctite.
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Originally Posted by daniell
Thanks, that is what I did. Also, I did not put loctite on the small screws. I don't seen how they can come off even without the screw.
stopping on a really steep incline can slip the pads out....

and some pads are longer on one end... the longer portion points to the rear of a bike. they are designed that way to act like "power brakes" on a car.. the longer leading side pulls the pad inwards, aiding braking force.
Longer on one end plus a curve to follow the rim better equals "right and left pads".

one other equation... locktite plus tiny JIS screws plus a worn philips screwdriver equals future trouble.

i hope you didn't use locktite red. Tell me you didn't use Red Locktite on that poor screw....

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Originally Posted by maddog34
stopping on a really steep incline can slip the pads out....
Maybe if you are riding backward too quickly?
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I removed the pads and examined them with a strong light and a magnify lens. I was surprised that two of the pads has a small R and the other two had a small L.
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Originally Posted by daniell
I removed the pads and examined them with a strong light and a magnify lens. I was surprised that two of the pads has a small R and the other two had a small L.
And if you install them correctly, the pads marked R will always be on the right, and the pads marked L will always be on the left.
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And if you install them correctly, the pads marked R will always be on the right, and the pads marked L will always be on the left.
...do we need to look at the bike from the front or from the rear?
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Originally Posted by SoSmellyAir
Maybe if you are riding backward too quickly?
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Related question, how does one keep the brake pad from twisting when the screw is tightened? It tends to turn in the direction of the screw twist. I’ve used pliers but ther must be a better idea. Thanks
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Related question, how does one keep the brake pad from twisting when the screw is tightened? It tends to turn in the direction of the screw twist. I’ve used pliers but ther must be a better idea. Thanks
Pull the brake lever hard while tightening the screw. Works well with most brakes.
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I hold the brake pad steady by hand, other times I'll clinch the brake lever. I just tighten lightly. Worst case I have held a pad imposition with a Cresent wrench.
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Brake pads

The suggestion to tightly hold down brake lever didn’t work for me. Granted I was working on a cheap big box brand. Had to resort to pliers or similar. I’m learning!
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Originally Posted by Hvac
The suggestion to tightly hold down brake lever didn’t work for me. Granted I was working on a cheap big box brand. Had to resort to pliers or similar. I’m learning!
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yep.. they do that most of the time... other , fancier types do it less, but still do twist.. i tighten gradually with the brake contacting the rim, then grab the pad, front and rear, and THEN snug up the nut.. strong fingers really help in this process... and the plain washer between the outer cup and the nut is there to limit the twisting effect...... Cheap washers plus Lousy threads equals nasty Twisting of the pads.

tip: most V-brakes, and some Canti-brakes, have easily released External Springs....Release the spring to ease Pad alignment/tightening... then re-hook the spring on it's tab.

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Originally Posted by Hvac
The suggestion to tightly hold down brake lever didn’t work for me.
Because it was a dumb suggestion.
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Originally Posted by Redbullet
...do we need to look at the bike from the front or from the rear?
Ah... the old "frame of reference" problem.
Think "Rider's left or right".
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Originally Posted by Redbullet
...do we need to look at the bike from the front or from the rear?
They should say "P" and "S" to take out all ambiguity but sadly, most of the world is oblivious to nautical notation. (P for port, S for starboard. Looking forward as you stand on the ship. Port is always the left side of a ship just like our hearts are always on our port side.) Mixups between right and left could cost voyagers their ship and perhaps the lives of everybody on board.
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Originally Posted by sweeks
Ah... the old "frame of reference" problem.
Think "Rider's left or right".
I've stopped saying right or left because far too many serve to that direction upon hearing it.
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney
I've stopped saying right or left because far too many serve to that direction upon hearing it.
How about "dexter" and "sinister"?
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Originally Posted by sweeks
How about "dexter" and "sinister"?
Most people don't answer to "Dexter" and many resent being called sinister.
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Originally Posted by maddog34
yep.. they do that most of the time... other , fancier types do it less, but still do twist.. i tighten gradually with the brake contacting the rim, then grab the pad, front and rear, and THEN snug up the nut.. strong fingers really help in this process... and the plain washer between the outer cup and the nut is there to limit the twisting effect...... Cheap washers plus Lousy threads equals nasty Twisting of the pads.

tip: most V-brakes, and some Canti-brakes, have easily released External Springs....Release the spring to ease Pad alignment/tightening... then re-hook the spring on it's tab.
That will help. Especially the spring release.
I will work on my fingers, hopefully they won’t get bigger than my bike gloves.
Thank you
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney
They should say "P" and "S" to take out all ambiguity but sadly, most of the world is oblivious to nautical notation. (P for port, S for starboard. Looking forward as you stand on the ship. Port is always the left side of a ship just like our hearts are always on our port side.) Mixups between right and left could cost voyagers their ship and perhaps the lives of everybody on board.
Then why did Mr. Murdoch order hard a starboard when he wanted the Titanic to turn to port? (Don’t worry, I know).
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Originally Posted by smd4
Because it was a dumb suggestion.
Care to elaborate?
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Originally Posted by Hvac
Care to elaborate?
Because you probably can’t exert enough pressure on the shoe by squeezing the brake lever to keep the shoe from moving. And that sounds like more than just a little awkward.

Holding the shoe in position with one hand while tightening the bolt should be more than sufficient.
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