kwb377

It's like all the "Unboxing!" videos that show them removing the product box from the shipping box/bag, showing all the angles of the box, then removing the product from the box to show it to me...

1. I don't need to see a brown cardboard shipping box...I've seen thousands of them.
2. Showing me the product's box and the product after removing it from said box shows me nothing that the pictures on the product's website didn't show me.
3. An "unboxing and review" isn't a review....it's a preview. A review happens after you've used the product.

XxHaimBondxX

Happened to me once and I had to file a claim with my CC company. The item showed up 4 months later! It got held up somewhere at customs. I've ordered many things before and after, but this is the only issue I had.

veganbikes

Agreed. It is a waste of time. I get if you are running through the product and really going kind of in depth on it sure but generally yeah that sort of stuff just is senseless.

I would be happy if I didn't have to see any more brown cardboard boxes if only all the products I order at work could magically label themselves and put themselves away while doing everything to make sure they are properly categorized and in the system and ready to be sold that would be excellent or if it could just sense hey you look like you need some tubes or that new bottle cage or whatever that would be even better...lol

tomato coupe

Is this like one of those adverts where a watch is offered for $19.95 with the claim that it "compares to ..." next to a picture of a Rolex?

George Mann

No. These are copies of the actual circuits that sometimes end up being even better.

tomato coupe

Maybe you could post a link to some of this equipment?

George Mann

It's actually very easy to look up on your own. The majority of search's should begin with "hifi".

Go to AliExpress, and search for EAR 834p.

tomato coupe

That's not very useful, given how many useless items will be included in that search.

In principle, that's more useful, but it doesn't return any items in the search.

deimos25

Anyone here has any first hand experience with cycling clothing from AliExpress? I wan't to get a few things, but my first worry is that quality would be too bad to wear it at all...

George Mann

It takes experience to seperate the wheat from the chaff.

What exactly are you interested in finding?

tomato coupe

I just wanted to see an example of $200 audio equipment on AliExpress that's equal in quality to $2,000 equipment.

George Mann

Here you go. This one exceeds the pricepoint by a comfortable margin.

2 chassis 834p clone

rsbob 

I have purchased a dozen cycling jerseys and had zero issues with receipt or quality, but then I am not looking for a top brand fit Cycling short chamois typically last about two years before they break down. I have gotten away from them for shorts/bibs, but at those prices it isn’t a big deal. Also have bought many good value accessories like lights, cadence and speed sensors and cycling glasses which have all been fine.

with cycling clothing read the reviews and see if there are comments like, Order a size larger or Runs small, order up.

Edit: I did make the mistake of ordering a winter “waterproof” jacket from one of their sellers. It sopped up rain like a sponge

Koyote

This is what people tell themselves when they can't afford the $2000 item and thus have never experienced it. Sort of like the people on bf who brag about their $15 cycling jerseys and ridicule anyone who pays more for name brands.

George Mann

I am infinitely familiar with the product in question, and have a wealth experience with gear at all pricepoints!

I also regularly listen to multi-million dollar systems.

I have been involved in high end audio for over 50 years as an inventor, engineer and critical listener.

tomato coupe

Actually, if there's one place where $200 knock-offs might be as good as $2,000 originals, it would probably be the high end audio business. That industry lives on the peddling of snake oil.

George Mann

Well, I got tired of the obsurd price increases. I was going to build a few line-level components myself, but found that the Chinese were selling good cicuit designs for less than I could build them for.

philbob57

My bet is that a lot of stuff on 'zon comes from aliexpress sellers. I have a 'Baleaf' wind jacket with zip-on arms from 'zon. It's pretty well made. Sewing looks good, no loose threads, self-healing zippers, fits me well enough. Still looks like it did after my 1st ride - stained because it was on my rearrack, and it rubbed against the tire for 15 miles. I'm happy after a couple of years of use.

Agree. I'd also like reviewers to have wide and deep knowledge of the stuff they review. Few Internet reviewers qualify.

rsbob 

I buy $15 jerseys but don’t disparage those who buy the expensive brands. We all have different incomes so spend what you can.

Don’t wear out the broad brush you like to paint with.

Koyote

"broad brush"? I'm talking about specific posters on bf. I think you participated in one or two of the threads. A couple of them actually wrote that they had never tried high-end jerseys because they just know that the cheapies from Amazon are just as good. (I would provide their usernames, but that might run afoul of the mods.)

Nothing "broad" about it.

glenncz

I have an Ali cyclling jacket that I've worn for 2 maybe 3 years. If fits and works great. Quality is fine. I buy lots of stuff on Ali, you have to be careful with sizes, often 2 or even 3 sizes up, take measurements and use the size charts carefully.

rsbob 

You are always right. Must feel good. Cheers

epnnf

sometimes it is cheap crap, but usually its = to cheap domestic stuff. And Ive bought non cycling clothing from them. Its just like buying any sized items online- you dont know what youre getting.

retswerb

How long ago was this? I think this is an area they've really improved on. I've made a couple of orders from them in the past year and they've provided copious emails giving me tracking updates - when it shipped, when it arrived in customs, when it cleared customs, etc.

rsbob 

Your bet is correct, I have seen multiple items on Amazon that are the exact same manufacture as on Ali. Rock Brothers is one of the biggies. If you want, you can read the reviews on Amazon to get a better read on quality and satisfaction. Am always leary of too good to be true prices or anything that plugs into a wall socket, so pass them by. Bought cadence and speed sensors for my other bikes which worked great with my Garmin for a fraction of the price.

I have also ordered solar motion detection lights for the house as well as soap racks for the shower, and multiple other items for the home and have only been disappointed once with quality. Forget refunds and returns though as well as a response from customer service. It is virtually impossible regardless of what they say. For less expensive items which may be disposable, I have no issue. IMO: It's a risk but for their prices its not much of one.