Hex key skewer made by BBB siezed after using blue threadlock
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After reading the initial post again, I see that this might be a thru-axle. Skewer's, AFAIK are typically the quick release or cam lock levers we use to use on wheels.
Others of you may have already figured that out. I didn't when I made my earlier reply.
Still, I don't see any need to put thread locker on a thru-axle if the manufacturer of the thru-axle doesn't say to use it. And I don't know of any that do.
Nor would I expect the colors of one brand of thread locker to mean the same thing as the colors of another brand of thread locker. There is no entity that tells them they have to match colors with each other.
Others of you may have already figured that out. I didn't when I made my earlier reply.
Still, I don't see any need to put thread locker on a thru-axle if the manufacturer of the thru-axle doesn't say to use it. And I don't know of any that do.
Nor would I expect the colors of one brand of thread locker to mean the same thing as the colors of another brand of thread locker. There is no entity that tells them they have to match colors with each other.
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20 plus years ago Grant Peterson had an arcticle in a Rivendell Reader about using bee's wax as a threadlocker.
I purchased a little dixie cup of the stuff from Rivendell, I even still have some left.
I use it on stuff like rack bolts then tend to vibrate loose.
In over 20 years of use I've never had a bolt or nut come loose.
It also protects against corrosion.
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I purchased a little dixie cup of the stuff from Rivendell, I even still have some left.
I use it on stuff like rack bolts then tend to vibrate loose.
In over 20 years of use I've never had a bolt or nut come loose.
It also protects against corrosion.
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After reading the initial post again, I see that this might be a thru-axle. Skewer's, AFAIK are typically the quick release or cam lock levers we use to use on wheels.
Others of you may have already figured that out. I didn't when I made my earlier reply.
Still, I don't see any need to put thread locker on a thru-axle if the manufacturer of the thru-axle doesn't say to use it. And I don't know of any that do.
Nor would I expect the colors of one brand of thread locker to mean the same thing as the colors of another brand of thread locker. There is no entity that tells them they have to match colors with each other.
Others of you may have already figured that out. I didn't when I made my earlier reply.
Still, I don't see any need to put thread locker on a thru-axle if the manufacturer of the thru-axle doesn't say to use it. And I don't know of any that do.
Nor would I expect the colors of one brand of thread locker to mean the same thing as the colors of another brand of thread locker. There is no entity that tells them they have to match colors with each other.
I knew it was a TA but called it a skewer through idiocy. Still don’t know anyone that checks every ride but actually I just remembered I do know of one that worked loose during a ride. Oops.
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A possibility is that the no-name TL is blue but may not be the same strength as the blue from big companies that make quality products and who knows what the chemical composition is?? Note that TL's usually have an expiration date after opening which can be found on the websites from most companies so large quantities may be false economy if not used up in time.
Threadlocker, like grease, like anti-seize, like oil has its place. Don’t dismiss it, it is a bloody marvel for the right place. In my opinion the Swiss Army knife of TL is Loctite 243. That is the one you want. Tolerant to light oil coverage. I use it at work, but one day work decided to try a cheaper one, well what a difference. I use it for some grub screws and the cheap version is definitely (or should that be defiantly) stronger, and takes a little warming to start moving. It also flows a little more gloopy. Get the smallest bottle unless you are working on a production line! It can go off. Also look up on line about “fake” bottles, even with close wording, ie two “T’s” in the word Loctite, I have seen many on that on-line auction site advertised. Loctite have patented a bottle design to try and stop fake bottles. Look it up on;
https://www.henkel-adhesives.com/au/...%20to%20verify
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Threadlocker, like grease, like anti-seize, like oil has its place. Don’t dismiss it, it is a bloody marvel for the right place. In my opinion the Swiss Army knife of TL is Loctite 243. That is the one you want. Tolerant to light oil coverage. I use it at work, but one day work decided to try a cheaper one, well what a difference. I use it for some grub screws and the cheap version is definitely (or should that be defiantly) stronger, and takes a little warming to start moving. It also flows a little more gloopy. Get the smallest bottle unless you are working on a production line! It can go off.
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Pretty sure OP is dealing with a hexkey skewer, not some variation of a QR skewer. Hex key, torx key, security hex or torx key, or proprietary key, etc. I have used those as a semi-security device, at least compared to a QR skewer. Thief can't steal my wheel unless they have a hex key, etc with them. (But most keys are available at any hardware supply source. Never once considered using threadlocker with those skewers and never had one come loose. And didn't tighten them excessively. (I used them on front wheels, mostly.)
https://www.amazon.com/wileoone-Lock...248&th=1&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/wileoone-Lock...248&th=1&psc=1
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brings to mind the concept of "tolerance stackinig".
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It was just a combination of shallow bolt head and requirement for high torque. It was impossible to turn the bolt without loud cracking noise.
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Pretty sure OP is dealing with a hexkey skewer, not some variation of a QR skewer. Hex key, torx key, security hex or torx key, or proprietary key, etc. I have used those as a semi-security device, at least compared to a QR skewer. Thief can't steal my wheel unless they have a hex key, etc with them. (But most keys are available at any hardware supply source. Never once considered using threadlocker with those skewers and never had one come loose. And didn't tighten them excessively. (I used them on front wheels, mostly.)
https://www.amazon.com/wileoone-Lock...248&th=1&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/wileoone-Lock...248&th=1&psc=1
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Yeah that last point is important. I guess manufacturers might follow loctite to avoid upsetting customers but it’s a big assumption.
I knew it was a TA but called it a skewer through idiocy. Still don’t know anyone that checks every ride but actually I just remembered I do know of one that worked loose during a ride. Oops.
I knew it was a TA but called it a skewer through idiocy. Still don’t know anyone that checks every ride but actually I just remembered I do know of one that worked loose during a ride. Oops.
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When you loctite a high torque bolt you removal torque is going to be much, much higher. That's why you use grease - so you can get to proper torque without interference and you can loosen the bolt without over torquing the hardware.
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It's wasn't a trough axle. Currently avoiding them due to reports of frequent rounding out of bolts, siezed threads or worn threads in dropouts. At least when using trough axle hammering in hex key deeper as red on mtbrforum won't damage the bearings since all of the shock load is goin trough the axle in to the dropouts only.
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I always found the liquid easier to use on small screws and the stick on bigger threads, but while upside down no contest! Lol.
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If it isn't a thru axel, I'm curious enough now I would like to see pictures.
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2. I highly doubt a design patent on the bottle is going to stop a counterfeiter selling fake Loctite. The counterfeiter can easily copy the bottle as well.
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