Raleigh Sports 3 speeds
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Raleigh Sports 3 speeds
I have restored about 30 or 40 Sports as a hobby after numerous emails with Sheldon (RIP). He helped me understand the intricacies of SA hubs. But as I age I have found balance to be an issue with some of my friends. And I have been searching for either outriggers (training wheels) or trike conversions that I could integrate onto the old frames. Any workable leads would be greatly appreciated.
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A recumbent tadpole trike would be the best solution. An upright trike is less stable and training wheels by and large are for parents who don't understand how to balance and force their kids into the same. There are some I have seen for older kids with developmental delays but nothing I can recall that I would put on a 3 speed SA hub and have it work well.
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A recumbent tadpole trike would be the best solution. An upright trike is less stable and training wheels by and large are for parents who don't understand how to balance and force their kids into the same. There are some I have seen for older kids with developmental delays but nothing I can recall that I would put on a 3 speed SA hub and have it work well.
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I agree with the trike suggestion. However they tend to cost a few times what a "normal" bike costs for the same grade of equipment/parts, just like tandems do too. The link I provided is for an "adult sized" training wheel version. I've sold and installed a few years back (when i still ran Bike One), mostly for riders with various challenges. They do work but are nowhere near as "nice riding" as a trike is, or stable either. One nice design difference with these stabilizers is that they don't attach to the rear axle, thus when used with a IGH or der system don't interfere with axle nut engagement on those short SA axles Andy
I agree with the trike suggestion. However they tend to cost a few times what a "normal" bike costs for the same grade of equipment/parts, just like tandems do too. The link I provided is for an "adult sized" training wheel version. I've sold and installed a few years back (when i still ran Bike One), mostly for riders with various challenges. They do work but are nowhere near as "nice riding" as a trike is, or stable either. One nice design difference with these stabilizers is that they don't attach to the rear axle, thus when used with a IGH or der system don't interfere with axle nut engagement on those short SA axles Andy
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Not looking for new. I was looking for info, not debate thank you. Raleigh retrofitted some sports into trikes in the late 50’s early 60’s with a bolt on conversion. Looking for something similar. Also, as a footnote, an upright trike would be much easier for my friends (85+ in an elderly community) to mount than a recumbent. Maybe I should just look into a longer replacement axle for an SA to mount on a Sun trike.
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A recumbent tadpole trike would be the best solution. An upright trike is less stable and training wheels by and large are for parents who don't understand how to balance and force their kids into the same. There are some I have seen for older kids with developmental delays but nothing I can recall that I would put on a 3 speed SA hub and have it work well.
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Not looking for new. I was looking for info, not debate thank you. Raleigh retrofitted some sports into trikes in the late 50’s early 60’s with a bolt on conversion. Looking for something similar. Also, as a footnote, an upright trike would be much easier for my friends (85+ in an elderly community) to mount than a recumbent. Maybe I should just look into a longer replacement axle for an SA to mount on a Sun trike.
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Debate isn't necessarily a bad thing. You will get information and opinions in a thread like this. Don't think of any of this as negative. I saw a thread a few years ago about a tricycle conversion kit installation by a long time member. His reaction was that the kit made the bike/trike unrideable and dangerous, and he is an experienced cyclist. One downside of stabilizers/"training wheels" is if you set them to hold you up on flat ground, without wobbling, irregularities in the road surface can lift the rear driving wheel off the ground. Just something to consider. If you are thinking about setting bikes up for seniors in their 80's please consider the consequences if those setups create extra danger
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There are also lots of conversion kits available with some including everything you need including the wheels but I don't have any experience doing one of these or have any knowledge of the quality of any of the kits. bicycle to tricycle conversions - Search (bing.com)
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The stability issue of upright trikes is being a bit overblown here. Yes, higher means more tippy, but at the speeds these tend to be used, they're more than adequately stable. Upright trikes are SOP in retirement communities all over Florida, so I doubt your clients would have issues.
There are various conversion kits made for exactly what you have, allowing use with the existing IGH hub.
There are various conversion kits made for exactly what you have, allowing use with the existing IGH hub.
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I've sold, assembled and serviced a number of "adult trikes" (including Sun brand) and most brands have had a IGH 3 spd option (which I strongly recommend). All but a few old Schwinns had a right rear wheel drive (better to counter the road's crowning). Some of the customers were elderly, most were somehow "challenged" (not sure what the PC term is today...) and used their trikes for transportation. Stability hasn't been a mentioned issue for both groups IME.
One customer of ours (Allstar Bike Shop in Raleigh, NC) would get a new trike every few years when he was hit by a car pulling out of a parking lot, not bothering to look both ways for our customer on the sidewalk. The driver would show up at our shop with the trike "in tow" and just pay for a replacement it in full to avoid any insurance or police involvement. Andy
One customer of ours (Allstar Bike Shop in Raleigh, NC) would get a new trike every few years when he was hit by a car pulling out of a parking lot, not bothering to look both ways for our customer on the sidewalk. The driver would show up at our shop with the trike "in tow" and just pay for a replacement it in full to avoid any insurance or police involvement. Andy
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There are also lots of conversion kits available with some including everything you need including the wheels but I don't have any experience doing one of these or have any knowledge of the quality of any of the kits. bicycle to tricycle conversions - Search (bing.com)