LOOK!! This is why Basso,Ulrich Out Of Tour:Drugs!!
06-30-06, 05:35 AM
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Why don't they just admit everybody dopes and it can't be controlled? Cool thing is, they've left open the chance for an all American podium this year. Wouldn't the French love that! Might not ever be another Tour if that happens......
06-30-06, 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by domestique
Vino too? I thought he was still safe... this is going to be a very interesting tour!!!!
Now we get to listen to Phil Ligget mention the doping scandal every 5 minutes during the broadcasts.
06-30-06, 05:37 AM
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Ok so what is the over under on the TdF actually starting? I was reading the interview with Bruyneel and he made this comment:
Originally Posted by Johan Bruyneel
I don't know exactly the situation is there, but it's bad for everybody. And it's not good that certain teams might go out of the Tour and others might not. It should either be all or nothing. All the information (from Operacion Puerto) needs to be acted on. I don't think we can start the Tour de France with those kind of doubts and uncertainty. It's bad for the riders and there's already enough suspicion around.
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Originally Posted by domestique
all depends who their friends and contacts were.... all you need is a friend who is a Dr. that treats cancer patients to get EPO.
But what about from a more basic angle, are drugs such as creatine (which are cheap and easy to get a hold of) much in the way of performance enhancing?
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Originally Posted by Jakey
If all those guys doped...there is no way armstrong didn't.
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Originally Posted by Eurosport
While Vino's name did not appaear on the list of riders implicated, nine of his team-mates did.
06-30-06, 06:06 AM
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This must be pretty damning evidence if it got big boys thrown out of the Tour. Armstrong has had some pretty strong allegations against him before and taken the start. I wonder who else will disappear before the day is done. This a huge blow to this years Tour. That being said, if these guys are guilty, I'm glad that they are doing something about it. Just a real shame it has to be leaving a dark cloud over what should have been the most exciting Tour in 7 years.
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Originally Posted by Dove15
Surely there wouldnt be many people around locally, to give athletes access to such drugs.
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There goes the ratings don't you think?
Oh well, will keep up with it anyway to see what transpires!
Oh well, will keep up with it anyway to see what transpires!
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OMG! This is getting crazy.
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I told y'all this is all a plot by Lance (hey he lived in spain) to
get George into the Yellow jersey. . .seriously.
as I said this makes Festina look like a small town bust of some high schoolers
with a 6 pack of PBR.
marty
get George into the Yellow jersey. . .seriously.
as I said this makes Festina look like a small town bust of some high schoolers
with a 6 pack of PBR.
marty
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Originally Posted by GuitarWizard
So it'll be just like TdF's in the past when Vino pretty much rode by himself. Right on.....
06-30-06, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by lotek
I told y'all this is all a plot by Lance (hey he lived in spain) to
get George into the Yellow jersey. . .seriously.
get George into the Yellow jersey. . .seriously.
It's so great that the pure hearted Americans don't dope.
06-30-06, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by interested
What I find strange about Ivan Basso involvement in the Spanish doping affair, is not that he was doping, but that he seems to have done it on his own. I would always have thought, that if Basso was using dope, it would be under Bjarne Riis' strict control.
This will be a crazy TdF. But looking on the bright side, I think we will have a much more old fashionend TdF, with much less time between the top contenders, so the race will be much more exciting than usual.
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This will be a crazy TdF. But looking on the bright side, I think we will have a much more old fashionend TdF, with much less time between the top contenders, so the race will be much more exciting than usual.
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Regards
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This f***ing sucks. Shaping up to be the best tour since 1999, and maybe since 1989, and now its going to be a disaster. I'm glad Iwent to the Tour last year. I'd be extremely pissed if I was paying to go see this year's Tour.
06-30-06, 06:39 AM
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Doping? No way! I didn't realize doping happened in cycling.
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"It's my responsibility to make this decision and suspend Ivan from the race," Riis said. "I have to think about the team, that is now the most important thing. I trust Ivan Basso, but now it is up to him and his lawyers to show he has nothing to do with this affair."
So I guess in other parts of the world, you're GUILTY until proven INNOCENT? What a rip. One thing's for sure, the Jan will have something to say about this. I for one am looking forward to his comments.
So I guess in other parts of the world, you're GUILTY until proven INNOCENT? What a rip. One thing's for sure, the Jan will have something to say about this. I for one am looking forward to his comments.
06-30-06, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Jakey
If all those guys doped...there is no way armstrong didn't.
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i don't see the big deal. so they dope? who cares? much ado about nothing. they ALL do it. it's still the gretest spectacle in sports.
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So I guess in other parts of the world, you're GUILTY until proven INNOCENT? What a rip.
Side note - I notice none of your are calling conspiracy and blaming 'the french' for being 'jealous' as you did with accusations against Armstrong.
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Originally Posted by CyLowe97
So we're still on for Freddy Rodriguez for the Green Jersey and Chris Horner for the Polka Dots, right?
It's so great that the pure hearted Americans don't dope.
It's so great that the pure hearted Americans don't dope.
you know if this whole thing wasn't so sad, this would be really funny.
my pick?
Valverde takes yellow
Hincapie, levi and Floyd all in top 10
as well as Cunego and Simoni (who may get his chance for
yellow).
marty
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