View Poll Results: Who do I blame?
Speedplay - they suck
8
15.38%
You. You need to glue your screws in place or something.
21
40.38%
Adidas. Your shoes are the problem
5
9.62%
Blame wear and tear. After 18 months it's time for more stuff.
5
9.62%
Blame no one. Forget about it and keep tightening screws
13
25.00%
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Cleat keeps coming loose. Who to blame?
#26
Not obese just overweight
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Joe I guess you draw the line at pedal systems, but how do you feel about proper set-up and maintenance with other systems on the bike? I maintain my Speedplays like the drivetrain they connect to: good set-up, periodic cleaning and lubrication, and the occasional adjustment with, perhaps, annual replacement of wear items.
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
I obsess about fit and make small changes, adjustments all the time. I usually replace chain rings, chains and cassettes before much wear. For tires, I wait until I'm showing threads or have had a puncture on squared off tires. I keep my wheels reasonably true and round and like stopping power, so I keep my brakes working. I keep a good stock of tires, tubes, brake pads and the like on hand.
I'd replaced my Speedplay cleats after about 10 months out of necessity -- a cleat failure. They blew apart today after just three months or so in service, installed at the shop.
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It's ALL base...
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The base plate screws on my Specialized Pro Carbons go in quite a ways, and hold without loctite. the cleat screws need loctite, but they don't move either.
But I agree with the OPs decision to change them out. He really should be on other equipment.
#30
Not obese just overweight
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BTW, I wish I could but I'm not any heavier -- actually lighter -- now that I've started drinking the winter brews. I did come back from Minneapolis Saturday where the locals threw a world class tasting party. You are living in a great place for beer. The people, the places, amazing stuff in bottles, amazing stuff on tap. Get yourself the Surly Darkness before it's all gone. Wall Street Journal mentioned it (and my site) last week and now there are beer tourists flying in to drink up your world class local brew!
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Not obese just overweight
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Yep. Sure sounds like the sole of the shoe was flexing, and the holes stripped. Bad combo: big guy and flexy shoes.
The base plate screws on my Specialized Pro Carbons go in quite a ways, and hold without loctite. the cleat screws need loctite, but they don't move either.
But I agree with the OPs decision to change them out. He really should be on other equipment.
The base plate screws on my Specialized Pro Carbons go in quite a ways, and hold without loctite. the cleat screws need loctite, but they don't move either.
But I agree with the OPs decision to change them out. He really should be on other equipment.
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ratebeer: are you the one on the left or the right in your avatar pic?
and get some tougher shoes...
+1 on the crankbros, BTW. i've never pulled out of them, but I'm lighter than you.
and get some tougher shoes...
+1 on the crankbros, BTW. i've never pulled out of them, but I'm lighter than you.
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Not obese just overweight
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I'm so glad to be past Speedplays. It's like dumping an awful girlfriend. It makes you want to go out and celebrate.
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I have a friend that had Keos and went to Speedplays because he was having all kinds of problems. Good luck with that, I hope they work for you... (not being sarcastic)
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when i first got the speedplays, i had screws falling out everywhere. everytime you touch your screw, plus about once a month or so depending on vibration, put more locktite on, can't use too much. haven't had a problem since and san diego hasn't paved a road since 2000.
#38
Making a kilometer blurry
FWIW, I always put some Phil Wood grease on my cleat bolts before they go in. Make sure to get the bottoms of the heads and the threads. This helps because it allows you to get them tighter so that they are less likely to go unstressed during use, when they can turn freely.
This is also what I do with spokes -- oil the threads and the insides of the spoke holes during lacing. Allows proper tension without a lot of creaking, spoke twisting, and nipple rounding.
Did that sound like I think it sounded?
Anyway, my spokes and cleat bolts stay tight until I turn them, even though the threads remain lubed.
This is also what I do with spokes -- oil the threads and the insides of the spoke holes during lacing. Allows proper tension without a lot of creaking, spoke twisting, and nipple rounding.
Did that sound like I think it sounded?
Anyway, my spokes and cleat bolts stay tight until I turn them, even though the threads remain lubed.
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My Speedplays moved arounf a lot too until I burned the directions and *gasp* tightened them nice and good. I check them once a week (ith the rest of the bike because crashing sucks) and I haven't had problems since. No loctite. And +1 to Waterrockets - I always grease screws. Seems to work.
Rob
Rob