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Old 08-16-08, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Extort
sweet frame!

but IMHO you should build it with campy...
Keep that Campy garbage to yourself.
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Wow! That's a slick looking frame. If you don't mind me asking, how much does something like that run, I'm assuming there's no room to bargain on that(seeing how I'm reading that it's a rare color).
Frameset alone set me back $2899 + Tax ($3124.74)

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Keep that Campy garbage to yourself.
Not a campy fan? Mind if I ask why you don't like them?
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Old 08-16-08, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Iamkar33m
But... but....... Shimano is just as good and about 2/3 the price.

Campagnolo is just like a Ferarri... it isn't any better than the rest, but if you can afford one, why not?
Shimano is not as good as Campy (IM not so HO), just like Ferrari is better than a car made by DaeWoo... and for only 33% more, wouldn't you rather be seen in a Ferrari?

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Keep that Campy garbage to yourself.
NO!!!


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Frameset alone set me back $2899 + Tax ($3124.74)
Not a campy fan? Mind if I ask why you don't like them?
He does not like Campy because he is driving a DaeWoo!
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nice frame!

I raced campy chorus/record and DA/Ultegra. I prefer DA mainly for the lighter shift action and shape of levers.
Campy takes a bit more to shift, esp from the drops and the reach is a bit much to the brakes- and I don't have small hands.

However, spin a Campy bottom bracket- smmmoooothhh! like butta! Shimano feels like it's stuck on its seals or something. That is the only quantifiable difference besides the shift feel for me.

I am kinda interested in SRAM since the levers are so clean and shape is nice. I don't know if it's an upgrade from Ultegra SL or DA though.
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Old 08-17-08, 12:19 AM
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is the build done yet, it's been a day!!!!

sweet bike man!!
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Old 08-17-08, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Extort
Shimano is not as good as Campy (IM not so HO), just like Ferrari is better than a car made by DaeWoo... and for only 33% more, wouldn't you rather be seen in a Ferrari?

He does not like Campy because he is driving a DaeWoo!
Comparing Shimano to a Daewoo? That's a bit dramatic, don't you think? I mean I know Campagnolo is nice, but I dont think Shimano is that far behind in terms of quality.

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nice frame!

I raced campy chorus/record and DA/Ultegra. I prefer DA mainly for the lighter shift action and shape of levers.
Campy takes a bit more to shift, esp from the drops and the reach is a bit much to the brakes- and I don't have small hands.

However, spin a Campy bottom bracket- smmmoooothhh! like butta! Shimano feels like it's stuck on its seals or something. That is the only quantifiable difference besides the shift feel for me.

I am kinda interested in SRAM since the levers are so clean and shape is nice. I don't know if it's an upgrade from Ultegra SL or DA though.
I agree with you, I test rode a bike with Campagnolo brifters and I could barely reach the levers from the drop bar. Also the Campys do require a bit of umph in order to get the shifter to actuate.

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is the build done yet, it's been a day!!!!

sweet bike man!!
Heh, I have to wait for my next paycheck to buy the gruppo and some other misc. items for the build. T-minus 28 days and counting.
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Old 08-17-08, 09:41 AM
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Would Honda NSX vs. Ferrari F150 be better?
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Originally Posted by Extort
Shimano is not as good as Campy (IM not so HO), just like Ferrari is better than a car made by DaeWoo... and for only 33% more, wouldn't you rather be seen in a Ferrari?

NO!!!

He does not like Campy because he is driving a DaeWoo!
I am so proud of you. <sniff>
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Old 08-17-08, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by urbanknight
Would Honda NSX vs. Ferrari F150 be better?
Shimano vs. Campy would be more like a Lamborghini Murciélago vs. a Ferrari FXX
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Originally Posted by Iamkar33m
Shimano vs. Campy would be more like a Lamborghini Murciélago vs. a Ferrari FXX
Incorrect. Those are both Italian.
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Old 08-17-08, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by urbanknight
Incorrect. Those are both Italian.
I'm not talking in terms of country of origin... i'm comparing quality/image/price.
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Originally Posted by Iamkar33m
I'm not talking in terms of country of origin... i'm comparing quality/image/price.
So was I

*Coming from a person who tried Campy and went back to Shimano
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Old 08-17-08, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by urbanknight
So was I

*Coming from a person who tried Campy and went back to Shimano
I'm gonna have to invoke your signature... Campy sux, Shimano rox!
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