ahsposo 

Hey Op!

I waved at you last week and you didn't wave back!

What's up with that?

ColinL

Are you serious?

First of all, this is absurd, unsubstantiated bull****. Secondly there is no reason to accuse anyone who voices doubt regarding roadtubeless of being unsupportive of well established and time proven technologies.

There's no reason to go off like that. This isn't personal, its a freaking piece of equipment.

If it is as awesome as you say, why is only Hutchinson making roadtubeless tires and the market penetration suffering, while nearly all MTB tires have tubeless models and many, many more MTB users have converted? If road tubeless will eventually be as ubitquous as indexed shifting, it sure is off to a rocky start.

KoYak

After much research, I made the switch to tubeless. Last night, I mounted hutchinson Fusion 3 tubeless on set of wheels with NoTubes Alpha 340 rims. From everything I've read on the forums, I thought these tires would be difficult to install but they mounted surprisingly easily. as a point of reference, the Fusion 3's mounted much easier than Continental gatorskins. I followed directions on the Notubes video . I mounted the front wheel first, and it looked like I had a slow leak, but the leak went away. I guess the tire must have settled in or the sealant did its thing.

I'll report back when I get in a few rides.

MrTuner1970

I'm sure you'll love them. I'll be watching for your report.

Also let us know what you think of the Alpha 340 wheels.

ddimick

I've seen several people say that only Hutchinson manufactures tubeless road tires. That is not correct.

I run IRC Roadlite Tubeless tires and I know Maxxis makes a tubeless road tire as well. IRC makes four different models of road tubeless. These aren't re-branded Hutchinsons like the Specialized tubeless tires.

Hutchinson owns the trademark for "Road Tubeless" so you won't see that exact phrasing used by other manufacturers, but there are other options out there.

https://www.irc-tire.com/en/bc/produc...l/roadlite_tl/
https://www.maxxis.com/Bicycle/Road-Racing/Padrone.aspx

Regarding sidewall leakage, my friend had this problem with a Fusion 3 tubeless tire. Hutchinson replaced it under warranty. He also had a Fusion 3 start splitting at the middle, also replaced under warranty. Not sure if Hutchinson had a bad batch or what, the ones I had were fine until I wore them out.

ColinL

The Maxis Padrone had very, very poor reviews when it debuted. I don't know if it is any better now that they've been making them a while. The IRC is brand new... where did you get yours, Alex's Cycle in Japan?

ddimick

No experience with the Maxxis myself so I can't say if they're good/bad/ugly. I do like the IRC Roadlite better than the Fusion 3. They feel like they ride better to me, but the difference is not a huge one. I've not decided if I'll buy another set after I wear this one out, they're about 50% more expensive. I did get them from Alex's in Japan and as far as I know they're the only on-line source. Your LBS might be able to order them.

KoYak

MrTuner1970, you are right! I love them!

I had a good cycling week for this time of year and got about 100 miles on the tubeless setup. Someone posted earlier that it takes time for the tire to completely seal and i have found that to be the case. The first night, the tires lost about 20 psi, the 2nd and third, between 15 and 20,and now losing about 5 psi every other day.

the ride is very smooth. much improved over the Michelin Krylion (23mm) and specialized tube combo at the same PSI 100 rear, 90 front. BTW - the i found the Krylion to be a fairly smooth riding tire at 100 psi. However, the Hutchinson @95 rear and 85-90 front, become a magic carpet. I doubt if there is any weight saving. Only time will tell about tire durability and sealant life, but I see no issues with changing the sealant ever 3-6 months.

As for the NoTubes Alphas 340 wheelset, they are built with the following:
Spokes: front 24 2x / back 28 3 x
Spokes: Sapim C XRay
Hubs: velocity race.

I ran this configuration through Prowheelbuilder custom wheel program and weight calculator stated a weight of 1256 g for the set. BTW - I bought these from a local builder. At 190 lbs I am probably on the heavy side for these wheels, but I REALLy wanted a light set of wheels. My goal is to lose another 30 lb this year so at that weight i won't be stressing these wheels as much. I've ridden them about 300 miles and I've only had the front wheel trued once after the first 100 miles.

My previous wheels were Aksiums, 1900 g (?) and velocity A23 Comp build, 1600 g, so this set is very light compared to those. dropping close to 750 g does wonders for climbing! Yep...these wheels feel like I can accelerate a lot quicker. If it's a placebo effect, I don't care, because i feel like I am flying. No brake rub, overall, i am very happy with these. But as with the tubeless setup, only time will tell with their durability.

MrTuner1970

Thanks for the report.