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Old 07-22-18, 02:11 PM
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It’s all relative. 14k will get you a carbon mast for a smallish sailboat.

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Old 07-22-18, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
It’s all relative. 14k will get you a carbon mast for a smallish sailboat.
boat (n): a hole in the water you throw money into
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Old 07-22-18, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
boat (n): a hole in the water you throw money into
Break Out Another Thousand
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Old 07-22-18, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by onyerleft
And what about those wavy Pinarello forks?
They always looked horrible.
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The $14,000 bike that Fabio sells is much nicer.
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Originally Posted by onyerleft
I wouldn't mind spending 14K for a road bike if they didn't "go out of fashion" so quickly.
When the 2nd generation Emonda came out a few asked me if I was going to buy one. I told them i'm still enjoying my current bike and have no interest in talking a huge loss on the sale of my old bike and spending a "S"load of money on another. I plan on riding the one I have for many more years.
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Originally Posted by Colnago Mixte
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Just to be clear, I know there are bikes out there worth $14,000, but I dare you to try to convince one of your non-cycling friends or co-workers that any bicycle is worth that much.
Friends?? Try convincing your spouse or SO!
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It's lovely, of course. When you buy a machine like this it's about art not a "bang for the buck" thing. Makes a Colnago C64 look like a deal. FWIW I bought this last September for $3400. OTOH, it had 8K miles and it's 17 years old. Still fun to look at and ride though.
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Originally Posted by bobwysiwyg
Friends?? Try convincing your spouse or SO!
Easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission.

My wife knows not to ask, because i'll tell her the truth. And she doesn't want to hear it.

Hey, $14K is not really that much if you can afford it and not go into debt. BTW, they say if you can't afford to replace it, then you shouldn't buy it. You need to be prepared for it to get damaged in a crash. It's just a fact of life.
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Originally Posted by oldnslow2
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Those are called “boat units.”

Hey, say what you like, but it does help the enthusiastic co-owner and Chancellor of the Exchequer to put the bikes into perspective.
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Old 07-22-18, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bruce19

It's lovely, of course. When you buy a machine like this it's about art not a "bang for the buck" thing. Makes a Colnago C64 look like a deal. FWIW I bought this last September for $3400. OTOH, it had 8K miles and it's 17 years old. Still fun to look at and ride though.
Nice. A Monster was my dream bike about 20 years ago. At one point, I had a deposit down on one but couldn't get the financing to go through (I was young, not enough credit history). Would still love to have one. That or a 900SS from the same era. Wife would absolutely kill me.
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Had 3 different Supersports. The last a SS1000DS. Broke my neck in a cycling accident and had C1&C2 fused. Couldn't deal with the ergos anymore. Bought the Monster and gave the SS to my son. Strangely both bikes have the same color scheme. It wasn't intentional.

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Sure is an ugly bike for $14k
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Rated at 16.18 lbs???

For that price, I'd expect it to be sub-15 lbs.

Does one at least get the new Campagnolo 12 speed drivetrain?
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Originally Posted by Dean V
I would like to think that if you had 14k to blow on a bicycle you also have enough for a motorcycle, trip to europe etc etc as well. It isn't an either, or, decision.
Well said.

The folks buying $14K bikes can afford to do so year after year.

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Old 07-22-18, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by colombo357
The folks buying $14K bikes can afford to do so year after year, and they don't have to sell their "old" rigs to do so.
Not true.

My bike is 4 years old and i don't plan on replacing it.

As to expensive cars and European vacation... not gonna happen. I just replaced my wife's 15 year old Honda with a new Subaru.
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Originally Posted by oldnslow2
...I own a Trek (stop laughing) Emonda SLR with Sram Red eTap and Zipp 303s. Full retail is close to the above bike. I've also rented a stock Emonda SL6 with Ultegra that I put 200 miles on when i was vacationing in Scottsdale. The SL6 is 1/3 the cost of mine but there is a noticeable difference...
What are some of the most important noticeable differences? I'm asking because I have a bunch of relatively inexpensive bikes and will be looking to downsize to 1 or 2 in a few years and would like an owner's perspective on what makes the most noticeable difference on a high-end bike.
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Originally Posted by kingston
What are some of the most important noticeable differences? I'm asking because I have a bunch of relatively inexpensive bikes and will be looking to downsize to 1 or 2 in a few years and would like an owner's perspective on what makes the most noticeable difference on a high-end bike.
The most noticeable is the stiffness of the frame. Previously i had a Madone 4 which had 400 level carbon vs the SLR's 700 level. On the Emonda the bike accelerates the second you start getting out of the saddle where the Madone had a bit of a delay. I had Easton carbon wheels on the Madone and they needed to be trued every now and then. The Zipps have 19,000 miles are are still perfectly true. The electronic shifting allows simultaneous shifting of the FD and RD. The rim brakes on the Emonda work much better than those on the Madone.

The bike feels more responsive and seems to climb better, I attribute this to the greater stiffness.

And if you think I bought a expensive bike so i can show it off... mine is rather understated.

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Rule #25// The bikes on top of your car should be worth more than the car.

So true.
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Originally Posted by oldnslow2
The most noticeable is the stiffness of the frame. Previously i had a Madone 4 which had 400 level carbon vs the SLR's 700 level. On the Emonda the bike accelerates the second you start getting out of the saddle where the Madone had a bit of a delay. I had Easton carbon wheels on the Madone and they needed to be trued every now and then. The Zipps have 19,000 miles are are still perfectly true. The electronic shifting allows simultaneous shifting of the FD and RD. The rim brakes on the Emonda work much better than those on the Madone.

The bike feels more responsive and seems to climb better, I attribute this to the greater stiffness.
Thanks that’s really helpful. I’m not really an acceleration guy, so frame stiffness may not be that important for me, probably the same for carbon clinchers, but electronic shifting and hydraulic disks are making their way from nice-to-have to must-have for my next bike.



Originally Posted by oldnslow2
And if you think I bought a expensive bike so i can show it off...
Wouldn’t care if you did. Decent riding bikes are available for $5-600 or a lot less if you get a used one. Everything over that is some combination of marginal performance improvement and bling. Everyone gets to decide for themselves what’s important.
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Originally Posted by oldnslow2
Previously i had a Madone 4 which had 400 level carbon vs the SLR's 700 level.
This brings up a point of interest about the Cipo bikes.

They are T1000 carbon and a roll of that stuff is pretty expensive.


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Originally Posted by kingston
Decent riding bikes are available for $5-600 or a lot less if you get a used one. Everything over that is some combination of marginal performance improvement and bling.
I'll disagree.

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Everyone gets to decide for themselves what’s important.
That is so true.
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Originally Posted by oldnslow2
I'll disagree..
With what part?
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Originally Posted by kingston

With what part?
That cheap bikes are decent riding. Maybe for low speed, flat terrain and short rides.

BTW, I also have a $3000 Cannondale CX bike and it's also awesome. I bought it for winter and foul weather riding. I have both 32mm road tires and a second set of wheels with 35mm knobby. It fits great and rides like a high end SUV.

But given a nice weather day on decent roads, i'll take the Emonda.

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Originally Posted by oldnslow2
That cheap bikes are decent riding. Maybe for low speed, flat terrain and short rides.
I guess it depends on your definition of decent. A new $500 bike is a lot better than all the bikes I rode in the 80s so my standards are pretty low.

In any case, my point was that there is some acceptable level of performance that is much less than most people actually spend on their own bike so h@ters should take a look in the mirror before judging how much other people spend on their bikes.
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