tdilf

for bikes made in the US - this is medium price range.

fietsbob

Maxway Ltd TW is a large go-to for steel bikes, many companies hire their services..

vespasianus

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So if a $4200 frame is medium price, who makes a ~ gravel $7000 frame?

Cyclist0108

My bike was made in my zip code ([sacrcasm]which was part of my commie left-wing agenda in 2014[/sarcasm]). Some of the parts, like Chris King hubs, wheels and headset, were also made in the US. The Shimano parts are mostly Japan and Malaysia I believe.

tdilf

off the top of my head - a US carbon frame from Argonaut (not sure if you would consider the RM3 a full on gravel rig tho).

fourfa

It's a more and more common trick to avoid the "made in China" sticker (or dodging particular tariffs anywhere in the world) to not-quite-completely assemble in China, leaving a few operations to be completed at the desired "final assembly" location. For instance it could be a single non-critical weld on a bike frame, a cable hanger or some such. Global trade is complex, and when cotton is grown in one country, spun into yarn in another, woven into cloth in a third, and cut and sewn into t-shirts in a fourth - sure, tagging it with the location of "final assembly" makes as much sense as any other. But this will always leave loopholes and I'm willing to bet that Cambodian-tagged bike frames are one of them.

I have no opinion about this practice or the original question, just some observations picked up in my profession.

vespasianus

Yeah, it is like the people who buy a $3500 Pivot frame that was made in Burma, which last year was made in China. We sell diagnostic kits in China. They are labeled as being made in Taiwan. All the reagents are made on the mainland and brought back to Taiwan to put into boxes and labeled Made in Taiwan. Most Italian carbon bikes are "finished" in Italy and thus "made in Italy".

Chinghis

I test-rode a Marin Muirwoods RC the other day. As I'm poring over the frame, I noticed the sticker - "Made in Indonesia." Never saw that before. It was a nice frame, some nice little details.

dwmckee

Gunnar and Waterford are US made frames and US assembled I believe and Bob Jackson English-made frames are very affordable for what you get.

Kapusta

You got some info to back up that claim regarding Pivot Cycles?

Pretty sure Pivots are welded up in Taiwan. They make the moulds and a bit of the tooling in the US and ship that to Taiwan to ensure they have more control over the process.

At least this is the way it was up until 2 years ago when I last read about them.

They are actually pretty open about their process. Several articles out there about them.

Chi_Z

Niner is made in Vietnam

vespasianus

Burma.

Kapusta

Wow. When did they move it to burma?

Is that your frame?

vespasianus

No, at a shop (that pic is actually from MTBR but I saw a similar box at a dealer). I was shocked when I saw it and asked why they heck they would do that. Was told that it is for tax reasons. Still made in same location but trucked to another location for shipment. The relationship between China and Taiwan is a funny on. Taiwan needs China for low cost manufacturing. Lots of things "made in Taiwan" are actually made in China and shipped back over. That is why this "Made in..." is a joke.

What I am still amazed by is how cheap manufacturing in China is. Shockingly, manufacturing and personal costs are higher in India than they are in China. If you have ever been to India, it is much less developed than China.

Kapusta

Oh. So they ARE made in Taiwan.

Unless something has significantly changed in the past couple years, their frames are definitely made in a factory in Taiwan. They work pretty closely with them, and go over there a bit.

vespasianus

I believe so, The "made in" does not mean much in todays world.

Razorrock

Litespeed, made in Chattanooga, TN.

Helldorado

LOOK and TIME bikes: Both are made in France. And they are "Hambini-Approved" too...

bonsai171

Don't forget Ocoee bikes also. They are a sister company of Litespeed, and are also made in Chattanooga. Ocoee is consumer direct, and sometimes runs some great deals on gravel bikes too.

Dave

mstateglfr 

The carbon frames are made in Chattanooga?
This is the brand that was once called 'remot' or whatever, then changed to 'ocoee' a year later, and a year after that is now 'obed'.

The frames are all carbon and Im pretty sure are made over in Asia. Oh, and that parent company is really struggling to find a brand name that works.

vespasianus

I thought Look made some (many) of their bikes in Tunisia but painted them in France.

gus6464

They do but the factory is owned by Look. Basically all looks are made in Tunisia.

BluFalconActual

Frame: Allied (Made in Arkansas)
Wheels: Enve (Made in Utah) with Chris King hubs (Made in Portland)
Groupset: SRAM Force AXS (Made in Taiwan, USA company)

I understand that this build is nowhere near cheap. It just so happens to be one of my dream builds.

csrpenfab

Correct! My Niner RDO carbon frame was "Handmade in Vietnam". Fine by me, they seemed to do a damn good job based on the past few thousand miles!

Kanon25

Notably, Italy and Switzerland and among the European countries with fairly wide loopholes on how little of final assembly is required, in order to receive the "Made in...." designation.